9 hours ago, Lost Penguin said:

I seem to be having a window this morning, so I wanted to document it. I’m still bedridden but I don’t have strong SI urges like usual. I’ve added coconut water to my diet in the last 2 weeks and added some Celtic see salt recently.

I was feeling VERY suicidal for many months about the withdrawal stuff, and also other terrible circumstances. But yesterday I had a session with my psychologist that gave me 0.5% hope.

Anyway, I just wanted to document it.

Really good to hear @Lost Penguin little bits of progress are a good sign. Wishing you more if the same soon.

11 hours ago, Lost Penguin said:

I seem to be having a window this morning, so I wanted to document it. I’m still bedridden but I don’t have strong SI urges like usual. I’ve added coconut water to my diet in the last 2 weeks and added some Celtic see salt recently.

I was feeling VERY suicidal for many months about the withdrawal stuff, and also other terrible circumstances. But yesterday I had a session with my psychologist that gave me 0.5% hope.

Anyway, I just wanted to document it.

I'm so sorry you are suffering for so many months with SI @Lost Penguin such a scary experience but unfortunately common when the chemicals are rampant, luckily it goes away like the other symptoms in time.

It's great that you're getting extra support, treatment with someone you can trust and who knows the job can work wonders, sounds like you're doing everything you can to support yourself in this process, well done for that, not easy at all taking initiative for change when you are deeply in.

I'm so glad for your improvement, even if tiny it's still very encouraging and it will grow over time 🙏

Edited April 17Apr 17 by Fullhealing

The method behind TRE

As you progress

I’ve had my jaw snapping shut, jaw locking, bruxism, and jaw muscle tension since migraine med 5 months ago.

• Has anyone had this symptom recover fully? How long did it take? It’s severe enough it makes me suicidal. @LostinCanada

• I’m the past 2 weeks I’ve developed facial muscle tightness and burning brain, and a much heavier head.

It’s frightening that I can’t take anything for my pre-existing neurological pain other than a rare Ativan

Over the counter stuff doesn’t work. Ice packs on my head and wailing/akathisia because migraine is so bad.

I had terror, rage, sobbing after my GP pushed TMS, ketamine. He still has not read the literature I sent him. Over it with this guy.

Hi @Lost Penguin

There might be some suggestions in here that could help:

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/7292-facial-tics-jaw-tongue-muscle-tension-and-pain-bruxism-teeth-clenching-tmj/?do=findComment&comment=5921

Would an athlete mouth guard help…some mention it in this thread. Also, it does get better. Have you looked up any kind of self massage, jaw/neck exercises or pressure point releases?

I am so sorry our are dealing with this as well.

What migraine med did you take? Could you add it with the date to your signature? Thanks.

30 minutes ago, Lost Penguin said:

I had terror, rage, sobbing after my GP pushed TMS, ketamine

No wonder. It is so hard to be without medical support. It is obvious he doesn’t get that you are suffering from withdrawal. You body needs calm, no change, stability not tms and ketamine.

There is a member on her that had that all pushed on her before knowing better….it is not good.

36 minutes ago, Lost Penguin said:

Over it with this guy.

Just let it go in one ear and out the other. It isn’t worth the aggravation. I wish we could just be truthful with these doctors but we have to play the game to keep gettIng benefits,etc. Even though my dr is decent, I still don’t trust him fully which is so sad when they are supposed to have your best interests at heart.

❤️🙏

6 hours ago, Lost Penguin said:

bruxism, and jaw muscle tension

I had this, a lot. Especially in my sleep, I'd wake up in agony.

It's all gone.

@LostinCanada thanks so much, I’ll look into purchasing a different night guard. I do a lot of self massage/intra-oral massage and go to an RMT when I can (have to take an uber as I can barely walk).

I took zomig about 5 months ago but don’t know the date…

@Luke That’s encouraging to hear!

1 hour ago, Lost Penguin said:

zomig

I figured it was one that messes with serotonin. It has a potential interaction with trazadone. These drugs are given out so freely and doctors never check this stuff. It angers me.

adding Zomig (zolmitriptan) to trazodone can increase your risk of developing serotonin syndrome, a potentially serious condition caused by too much serotonin in your brain. [1]

While both medications interact with your body's serotonin levels in different ways, taking them together requires medical caution. [1, 2]

Why the interaction happens

• Trazodone: An antidepressant that weakly affects serotonin.

• Zomig: A migraine medication (triptan) that stimulates specific serotonin receptors.

• When combined, these medications can alter your serotonin pathways and lead to hyperstimulation. [1, 2, 3]

Symptoms of Serotonin Syndrome

Reactions can range from mild to life-threatening and usually develop within minutes or hours of taking the medications. Symptoms include: [1]

• Agitation or extreme restlessness

• Fast heartbeat and changes in blood pressure

• Fever or excessive sweating

• Muscle spasms, tremors, or overactive reflexes

• Nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea

• Confusion or hallucinations [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Hey @LostinCanada I had been taking it for 11 years no problem and even took it for many months with the trazodone. But after having kindling reaction to caffeine (before finding SA) I think my nervous system go too sensitized. I knew I was taking a risk but I was in so much pain….

Now there’s nothing I can take for the migraine attacks but at least the preventative Ajovy injections (I’ve been on for 4 years) reduced my migraines days per month from 30 to 4-5. Over the counter meds never touched the pain. So I just put ice packs on my head and scream into a pillow nowadays.

Correction: zomig was 3 months ago. I figured out the date and added it to my signature

Edited May 24May 24 by Lost Penguin

By the way, the way the migraines started in the first place was serotonin syndrome when I was put on 10 drugs in a psych ward 11 years ago. Passive SI over devastating medical conditions and burn out in university. They started drugging me for my OCD, which was not the cause of my distress at the time.

Effexor caused rigidity, exploding head and neck lifted off pillow. They dismissed me, doubled it and I took it for 2 weeks. 24/7 migraine problem since. I never told anyone how the migraine developed because it sounds like I’m misinterpreting/exaggerating what happened in the facility. But I have the four-page prescription record from the BC Health Gateway App. Criminal.

I believe you...they are clueless and messing with things they don't understand. Add to that, when it is any problem a female has, we still get that label from long ago "hysteria". It is always easier to blame the patient as deficient than to admit their ignorance.

❤️🙏

My GP just discharged me as a patient because I was upset over email about my brain damage. I have no refills and too disabled to get a new doctor. I GOING TO KILL MYSELF

Dear @Lost Penguin

Get downloading the apps...try everyone:

Avee Health has an appointment at 2:15 today

https://share.google/e37RmR8doy3vkCpPN

Check the urgent care clinics also.

They close at 10 pm in Vancouver.

I can't believe this is happening to you now.

I am here for you. ❤️🙏

Also your pharmacist can give an emergency supply. ❤️❤️❤️

I have a month of refills but I’m done. I won’t make it. I can’t even walk

32 minutes ago, Lost Penguin said:

I have a month of refills but I’m done. I won’t make it. I can’t even walk

Try Telus my Health app... it's the one I have heard does consistent prescriptions. They set it up with your pharmacy for delivery.

I am so tired of the fight as well but we have to keep going....we can't let them win.

How can I help? I am disgusted by your doctor. I am so sorry. 😭

Thanks for your support ❤️‍🩹 i have limited refills for now. But disability will cut me off without a doctor and I’ll go homeless. I’m too ill to manage anything at all anymore, my brain is dead. Just going to let myself go homeless

Can you get a hold of disability and tell them what happened? Also, the Ministry of BC will help....they were fantastic for me.

Can you contact your doctor's office and speak to the MOA about seeing a different dr in the clinic?

Please contact the Disability Alliance

https://share.google/lFcB5ioeuVlP66f2M

They will help.❤️🙏

@Lost Penguin I thought there must be something being violated here. This is what AI says you can do and what your rights are:

When can a doctor end the physician-patient relationship?While they cannot discriminate based on your disability, a doctor can dismiss you under specific, valid circumstances:

Practice changes: If the doctor is retiring, relocating, or reducing the size of their practice.

Breakdown in trust: If there is a severe breach of the therapeutic relationship, such as forged prescriptions, threats of harm, or continuous verbal abuse.

Patient abandonment protocols: A doctor cannot simply dismiss a patient without cause or warning.

They must follow the ⁠CPSBC Practice Standard on Ending the Patient Relationship, which requires them to:Provide written notification to the patient.Give you adequate time (usually a minimum of 30 days) to find alternative care.

Continue to provide necessary care or bridge prescriptions during the transition period.

What to do if you are being dismissed Improperly. If you believe you are being dropped inappropriately, it is strongly advised to try discussing the situation with your doctor or the clinic manager first, as you are protected by the BC Human Rights Code. You can also review your rights with the ⁠Disability Alliance BC.

I’m too ill and maimed to file complaints or do anything. My psychologist is filing a complaint against him. I had used a few swear words over email after a lot of negligence and errors by my GP and his reception team as this was causing me stress and akathisia, so the therapeutic relationship has “broken down” according to him - he gave 30 days notice as per guidelines. He’s aware I had already applied for MAID due to several conditions and had an assessment too. So far I have someone who will temporarily fill my prescriptions. I just have to lay down. My brain is dead and I can’t even handle walking to the bathroom.

Also, disability is not on my side. They cold call, interrogate and do everything they can do find a reason to deny me. My psychologist is trying to help me out. I’m too crippled to exert anymore energy or think

9 minutes ago, Lost Penguin said:

I’m too ill and maimed to file complaints or do anything. My psychologist is filing a complaint against him. I had used a few swear words over email after a lot of negligence and errors by my GP and his reception team as this was causing me stress and akathisia, so the therapeutic relationship has “broken down” according to him - he gave 30 days notice as per guidelines. He’s aware I had already applied for MAID due to several conditions and had an assessment too. So far I have someone who will temporarily fill my prescriptions. I just have to lay down. My brain is dead and I can’t even handle walking to the bathroom.

You are doing amazing really. When I first called BC ministry, all you could do was cry...they just listened so patiently and helped in so many ways. We had zero income because I had monophobia and my husband couldn't leave my side... they didn't make me come in because I wasn't able. They dealt with me so humanely.

One day at a time.... sending love. ❤️❤️❤️