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Brenmos: introduction

Brenmos
Brenmos
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I’m at that point of withdrawal where I’m not sure what is withdrawal and what is a separate condition.

I’ve had symptoms off and on that resemble MCAS and POTS. They are my remaining symptoms.

January 28th 2023- Paroxetine 20mg and Trazodone 25mg

January 31st 2023- Trazodone 100mg

February 2023- Paroxetine 30mg

February 15th 2023- cross-tapering Paroxetine 10mg with Citalopram 20mg

March 29th 2023- stopped Citalopram 20mg cold turkey


Current as of March 30th 2023- Paroxetine 10mg and Trazodone 100mg

2 hours ago, Brenmos said:

I’m at that point of withdrawal where I’m not sure what is withdrawal and what is a separate condition.

I’ve had symptoms off and on that resemble MCAS and POTS. They are my remaining symptoms.

I suspect this is all WD for you, the chance you have WD and seperate conditions on top of this is slim.

Have things overall improved at all for you?

I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. 

 

If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.

Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

For US members details here.

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    11 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    I’m at that point of withdrawal where I’m not sure what is withdrawal and what is a separate condition.

    I’ve had symptoms off and on that resemble MCAS and POTS. They are my remaining symptoms.

    If you feel you need testing to rule out these symptoms, don't hesitate. For myself, the histamine issues continue but are getting better. It takes so much longer for our body to right the wrongs that these drugs have caused.

    I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

     

    Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

     

    TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg/Sep 18-3.8mg

     

    9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for reflux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger as needed for nausea/500 mg of Vitamin C for cortisol

     

    "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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    9 hours ago, Chippy said:

    Have things overall improved at all for you?

    They have!

    I kinda want to get tested but don’t want to fall for the medication trap to treat the histamine issues.

    January 28th 2023- Paroxetine 20mg and Trazodone 25mg

    January 31st 2023- Trazodone 100mg

    February 2023- Paroxetine 30mg

    February 15th 2023- cross-tapering Paroxetine 10mg with Citalopram 20mg

    March 29th 2023- stopped Citalopram 20mg cold turkey


    Current as of March 30th 2023- Paroxetine 10mg and Trazodone 100mg

    12 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    I’ve had symptoms off and on that resemble MCAS and POTS. They are my remaining symptoms.

    I think the key phrase is on and off which sounds like WD otherwise it would be consistent.

    Paroxetine messed with so many things... histamine receptors being one, the other is that paroxetine side effects mimic POTS.

    I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

     

    Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

     

    TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg/Sep 18-3.8mg

     

    9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for reflux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger as needed for nausea/500 mg of Vitamin C for cortisol

     

    "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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    8 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

    Paroxetine messed with so many things... histamine receptors being one, the other is that paroxetine side effects mimic POTS.

    Geez. So it can be withdrawal from citalopram and side effects from the paroxetine and trazodone I’m still on.

    January 28th 2023- Paroxetine 20mg and Trazodone 25mg

    January 31st 2023- Trazodone 100mg

    February 2023- Paroxetine 30mg

    February 15th 2023- cross-tapering Paroxetine 10mg with Citalopram 20mg

    March 29th 2023- stopped Citalopram 20mg cold turkey


    Current as of March 30th 2023- Paroxetine 10mg and Trazodone 100mg

    14 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    They have!

    I kinda want to get tested but don’t want to fall for the medication trap to treat the histamine issues.

    This is good news!

    I would be VERY cautious about trying to push for diagnosis of symptoms that are much more likley to be lingering WD. If you looking they will find a 4 letter syndrome to pin it all on, with it's own sets of pills no doubt.

    I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. 

     

    If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.

    Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

    For US members details here.

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    15 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    Geez. So it can be withdrawal from citalopram and side effects from the paroxetine and trazodone I’m still on.

    It could be. It's difficult to unpick, but it wouldn't surprise me. Many here have had issues similar to POTS, and various heartrate irregularities and so on. Likewise, histamine issues.

    Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all.

     

    Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes.

    Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants

     

    15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects)

    Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise

    1 month taper  to 0mg

    Last dose April 2023

    Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms

    Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.

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    16 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    Geez. So it can be withdrawal from citalopram and side effects from the paroxetine and trazodone I’m still on.

    These drugs definitely aren't benign.

    I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

     

    Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

     

    TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg/Sep 18-3.8mg

     

    9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for reflux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger as needed for nausea/500 mg of Vitamin C for cortisol

     

    "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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    Thank you all for the answers and wisdom! Always so great to be able to check in here.

    January 28th 2023- Paroxetine 20mg and Trazodone 25mg

    January 31st 2023- Trazodone 100mg

    February 2023- Paroxetine 30mg

    February 15th 2023- cross-tapering Paroxetine 10mg with Citalopram 20mg

    March 29th 2023- stopped Citalopram 20mg cold turkey


    Current as of March 30th 2023- Paroxetine 10mg and Trazodone 100mg

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    10 hours ago, Brenmos said:

    Thank you all for the answers and wisdom! Always so great to be able to check in here.

    You are in a good position to really slowly taper off paroxetine. It is such a rotten drug and is not even supposed to be taken by anyone over 65. The support and knowledge is here for you if you decide. 💯🙏❤️

    I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

     

    Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

     

    TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg/Sep 18-3.8mg

     

    9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for reflux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger as needed for nausea/500 mg of Vitamin C for cortisol

     

    "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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