3 hours ago, Jazzjunkie84 said:

Well i finally caved and decided to try keto for a week or two as an elimination diet. Carbs just have me in a constant state of uncomtrollable suffering/adrenaline/severe glucose crashes. Even slow fibery ones low gi and eaten after protein and fat and fiber.

Im on day 3. The keto flu is strong and i feel fatigued and groggy. It is NOTHING compared to the toxic hungover feeling i have constantly otherwise however. If i am ok after a couple weeks i may start sneaking in 10g complex carbs per meal again very slowly. I still awful but calm and detached. Even more evidencr that whatever is going on is metabolic in nature. My cgm concurs - the only episode I have had was after a brief low yesterday morning. I suspect im still overreacting to insulin that gets dumped when i have my morning glucose spike at 4 am. Will update again later.

I’ve been keto for 8 months @Jazzjunkie84 . I didn’t really get keto flu as I was sure to get enough electrolytes. Been through a bit of instability as I thought I needed more protein — the difference was stark. I had very poor sleep, fatigue and lethargy. I do best when my ketones are around 2 or even a little higher. All my metabolic markers are excellent aside from LDL-C. That’s a rabbit hole to explore. My physician said to keep doing what I’m doing as the cognitive and general health benefits are obvious. I use the Cronometer app/website for tracking macros and micronutrients. Good luck ☘️

1 hour ago, Catbird said:

I’ve been keto for 8 months @Jazzjunkie84 . I didn’t really get keto flu as I was sure to get enough electrolytes. Been through a bit of instability as I thought I needed more protein — the difference was stark. I had very poor sleep, fatigue and lethargy. I do best when my ketones are around 2 or even a little higher. All my metabolic markers are excellent aside from LDL-C. That’s a rabbit hole to explore. My physician said to keep doing what I’m doing as the cognitive and general health benefits are obvious. I use the Cronometer app/website for tracking macros and micronutrients. Good luck ☘️

Thanks for the input! I feel like ever since i got sick pre dulox i always have a honeymoon phase for EVErYTHING and same for withdrawal. So im skeptically optimistic. I havent had any body pain or anything as of today post noon. Curious to see how my sleep is tonight.

When you mention protein and destabilization - as in having your macros off made you feel bad..?

My ketones dropped to 0.7-1.1. I felt fatigued and lethargic and poor sleep. Last couple of days ketones >2 and I’m sleeping better, more energy and mentally sharper. Prior to that I’d tried to increase protein to activate mTOR intermittently and I’d slightly increased carbs. I was eating more calories so fat intake was still high. So I’ve made some changes to get my ketones back up and I do feel better.”