May 31May 31 Hi @Kat66 Well done for jumping off, it's been a right old long haul for you! But so sorry it's not going well. Perhaps a tiny dose will help calm the symptoms and when you settle you can do the teenie tiny micro dose drops? Might be worth considering.How were you feeling before you jumped off, had your symptoms totally settled? I know that was the advice from Brass Monkey's thread on SA about jumping off, but I can't help but wonder if we are ever symptom free at that point. I suppose it's different for everyone and maybe some folks do reach that.What ever you decide, sending you all my love and best wishesx Current dose is 0.14mg Citalopram Tapering details from start to December 2025 are saved here: Mamgu: reducing citalopram - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants. Citalopram 20mg from 2014.2019 28th Nov 9mg. 2020 13th Jan 8.1mg. 11th Feb 7.3mg. 29th April 2020 6.57mg. 30th May 5.90mg. 21st July 5.31mg. 17th Sept 4.8mg. 2021 7th Feb 4.3mg. 29th Mar 3.8mg. 10th May 3.42mg. 19th June 3.12mg. 29th Sept 2.83mg. 10th Nov 2.55mg. 2022 7th Jan 2.3mg. 15th Feb 2.07mg. 15th Mar 1.87mg. 7th May 1.68mg. 20th June 1.5mg. 24th Sept 1.43mg. 12th Oct 1.35mg. 12th Nov. 3rd Dec 1.25mg. 2023 4th Feb 1.097mg. 27th Mar 0.988mg. 8th May 0.89mg. 19th June 0.8mg. 14th Sept 0.72mg. 2024 1st Jan 0.71mg. 8th Jan 0.70mg. 15th Jan 0.69mg. 22nd Jan 0.68mg. 29th Jan 0.66mg. 5th Feb 0.64mg. 12th Feb 0.6mg. 19th Feb 0.56mg. 25th Mar 0.52mg. 1st Apr 0.49mg. 8th Apr 0.47mg. 15th Apr 0.44mg. 22nd Apr 0.42mg. 29th Apr 0.4mg. 27th May 0.38mg. 3rd June 0.36mg. 17th June 0.34mg. 10th August 0.32mg. 2nd Sept 0.3mg. 15th Sept 0.28mg. 1st Oct 0.26mg. 15th Nov 0.24mg. 16th dec 0.22mg. 2025 23rd Jan 0.2mg. 23rd June 0.196mg. 30th Jun 0.192mg. 7th July 0.188mg. 14th July 0.184mg. 21st July 0.18mg. 14th Oct 0.176mg. 2nd Nov 0.172mg. 10th Nov 0.168mg. 1st Dec 0.164mg. 25th Dec 0.16mg 2026 26th Jan 0.156mg. 2nd Mar 0.152mg. 16th Mar 0.148mg. 23rd March 0.144mg. 6th Apr 0.14mg
May 31May 31 19 hours ago, Kat66 said:Hello everyoneI just thought I’d post an update. I got down to 0.06mg cit and jumped just over a week ago. Since then I’ve descended into another level of hell I didn’t know existed. All the symptoms have intensified. I can’t quite get my head around it. Apparently I’m in acute withdrawal even though I’ve been tapering for the last 5 years. It’s insane. I feel like I’m basically in the foothills and there’s still the main mountain to climb. I thought I’d already climbed the main mountain with tapering! It’s all mind blowing! Sending love to all my fellow warriors xHi @Kat66 so sorry for the torturous journey you've been through, incredibly tough but the process is not over yet, it is possible that the system is giving a serious fight now that you have crossed zero and a little further you will experience significant relief.Keep surviving bravley, although it's still brutal things will only get better with time.Praying for easier days for you very soon 🙏 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
May 31May 31 Author Thanks @Catbird @Luke @Chippy @Mamgu @Fullhealing for your words of support. I appreciate the advice but I’m somewhat reluctant to reinstate at this point purely from battle fatigue! I’m so done with the drug and am going to have some kind of ceremonial chucking of the remaining tablets in the bin at some point. My symptoms before jumping were there but at a stable level, they weren’t fluctuating. I’d held for a month before jumping so I figured it was ok to do what I did. Hopefully as I jumped at a tiny dose this 7th circle of hell won’t last too long. History of depression and anxiety. Symptoms of PTSD. 1998-1999 Venlafaxine 2006-2007 Prozac.2013-15 Sertraline 50mg. 2015 cross-tapered to citalopram 20mg. 2015-2021 Citalopram 20mg (brief increase to 30mg for 2/3 months in 2019). 2021 jan dropped from 20mg to 10mg. Jun 25 stopped CT at 10mg. Started 50mg 5htp after a week without citalopram in the hope this would balance out my serotonin levels. After 3 days increased to 100mg 5htp. Jul 11 Stopped 5htp with the intention of reinstating citalopram at 1mg. Jul 16 Reinstated cit at 1mg. Aug 2 Increased dose to 2mg. Nov 28 10% reduction to 1.8mg. Dec 8 2mg 2022 Jan 6 1.8mg Feb 10 1.6mg May 13 1.5mg Jun 4 1.55mg Jul 4 1.4mg Aug 4 1.25mg Nov 1 1.1mg 2023 Mar 3 1mg Apr 18 0.9mg Jun 2 0.8mg Oct 4 0.7mg Nov 11 jumped off @0.7mg started on 5htp 200mg -400mg, L-Theanine, and L-tyrosine 200mg. Nov 25 came off 5-htp, l-tyrosine and l-Theanine. Dec 24 went on 7.5mg mirtazapine Dec 27 stopped mirtazapine & reinstated citalopram @.35mg. 2024 Jan increased to 0.5mg. July 14 0.49mg. July 16 0.47mg. July 21 0.5mg. 2025 Jan 10, 1mg. Feb 16 0.45mg Mar 30 .40mg May 2 .38mg May 28 .36mg Aug 27 .34mg Sep 2 .32mg Sep 17 .3mg Sept 30 .28mg Oct 14 .27mg Oct 22 .26mg Oct 28 .25mg Nov 3 .24mg Dec 2 .22mg 2026 (ratio 2:1 water/10mg tablet) Jan 5 .20mg (.40) Jan 19 .19mg (.38) Feb 15 .185mg (.37) Feb 18 .18mg (.36) Feb 20 .175mg (.35) Feb 22 .17mg (.34) Feb 23 .165mg (.33) Feb 25 .16mg (.32) Mar 1 .155mg (.31) (ratio 4:1 water/10mg tablet) Mar 3 .15mg (.60) Mar 9 .11mg (.44) Mar 17 .095mg (.38) Mar 22 .085mg (.34) Mar 31 .07mg (.28) Apr 8 .075mg (.30) Apr 15 .0625mg (.25) Apr 20 0.06mg (0.24) Apr 21 0.0575mg (.23) May 2 .06mg (.24) May 22 0.00mg PTSD diagnosis October 2023. 11/11/23 started EMDR therapy for PTSD. Multiple attempts to taper off citalopram. Vegan/vegetarian, otherwise healthy lifestyle. Other medications; combined HRT. Other supplements; magnesium glycinate, vegan omega3. Completely OFF caffeine (since July 21). Recently gave up alcohol for good. Main symptoms; crushing depression, anhedonia/emotional anesthesia, irritability, rage, anxiety/fear, DP/DR, intrusive/racing thoughts, cognitive fog, inability to focus, restlessness and some insomnia
May 31May 31 30 minutes ago, Kat66 said:Thanks @Catbird @Luke @Chippy @Mamgu @Fullhealing for your words of support. I appreciate the advice but I’m somewhat reluctant to reinstate at this point purely from battle fatigue! I’m so done with the drug and am going to have some kind of ceremonial chucking of the remaining tablets in the bin at some point. My symptoms before jumping were there but at a stable level, they weren’t fluctuating. I’d held for a month before jumping so I figured it was ok to do what I did. Hopefully as I jumped at a tiny dose this 7th circle of hell won’t last too long.I understand and respect your choice. Just to say though right now you have some control. One week off it’s fairly easy to ri a rescue dose. As time passes this gets riskier. Pwd is unpredictable and we have no way of knowing how long it lasts even if you come off a small dose.As I said I completely respect your choices and hope things settle for you soon. 😀 I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
May 31May 31 23 minutes ago, Kat66 said:Thanks @Catbird @Luke @Chippy @Mamgu @Fullhealing for your words of support. I appreciate the advice but I’m somewhat reluctant to reinstate at this point purely from battle fatigue! I’m so done with the drug and am going to have some kind of ceremonial chucking of the remaining tablets in the bin at some point. My symptoms before jumping were there but at a stable level, they weren’t fluctuating. I’d held for a month before jumping so I figured it was ok to do what I did. Hopefully as I jumped at a tiny dose this 7th circle of hell won’t last too long.Keep being attentive to yourself @Kat66 now at least you are clean which makes it easier for the system to heal more efficiently, the tiny dose option is still standing for a month or two if there is no improvement.I'll pray it will ease for you very soon! Edited May 31May 31 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
May 31May 31 2 hours ago, Kat66 said:Thanks @Catbird @Luke @Chippy @Mamgu @Fullhealing for your words of support. I appreciate the advice but I’m somewhat reluctant to reinstate at this point purely from battle fatigue! I’m so done with the drug and am going to have some kind of ceremonial chucking of the remaining tablets in the bin at some point. My symptoms before jumping were there but at a stable level, they weren’t fluctuating. I’d held for a month before jumping so I figured it was ok to do what I did. Hopefully as I jumped at a tiny dose this 7th circle of hell won’t last too long.I totally understand, the whole thing is exhausting. Keep doing the things that bring you peace and joy and those windows will open for youxx Current dose is 0.14mg Citalopram Tapering details from start to December 2025 are saved here: Mamgu: reducing citalopram - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants. Citalopram 20mg from 2014.2019 28th Nov 9mg. 2020 13th Jan 8.1mg. 11th Feb 7.3mg. 29th April 2020 6.57mg. 30th May 5.90mg. 21st July 5.31mg. 17th Sept 4.8mg. 2021 7th Feb 4.3mg. 29th Mar 3.8mg. 10th May 3.42mg. 19th June 3.12mg. 29th Sept 2.83mg. 10th Nov 2.55mg. 2022 7th Jan 2.3mg. 15th Feb 2.07mg. 15th Mar 1.87mg. 7th May 1.68mg. 20th June 1.5mg. 24th Sept 1.43mg. 12th Oct 1.35mg. 12th Nov. 3rd Dec 1.25mg. 2023 4th Feb 1.097mg. 27th Mar 0.988mg. 8th May 0.89mg. 19th June 0.8mg. 14th Sept 0.72mg. 2024 1st Jan 0.71mg. 8th Jan 0.70mg. 15th Jan 0.69mg. 22nd Jan 0.68mg. 29th Jan 0.66mg. 5th Feb 0.64mg. 12th Feb 0.6mg. 19th Feb 0.56mg. 25th Mar 0.52mg. 1st Apr 0.49mg. 8th Apr 0.47mg. 15th Apr 0.44mg. 22nd Apr 0.42mg. 29th Apr 0.4mg. 27th May 0.38mg. 3rd June 0.36mg. 17th June 0.34mg. 10th August 0.32mg. 2nd Sept 0.3mg. 15th Sept 0.28mg. 1st Oct 0.26mg. 15th Nov 0.24mg. 16th dec 0.22mg. 2025 23rd Jan 0.2mg. 23rd June 0.196mg. 30th Jun 0.192mg. 7th July 0.188mg. 14th July 0.184mg. 21st July 0.18mg. 14th Oct 0.176mg. 2nd Nov 0.172mg. 10th Nov 0.168mg. 1st Dec 0.164mg. 25th Dec 0.16mg 2026 26th Jan 0.156mg. 2nd Mar 0.152mg. 16th Mar 0.148mg. 23rd March 0.144mg. 6th Apr 0.14mg
May 31May 31 I hope that you improve soon. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
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