Willy: On multiple psych meds-tapering paroxetine now

July 21Jul 21

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I’m still not doing well and very worried about poop out returning. I’ve been holding since I updosed in September 2025. Shouldn’t I have stabilized by now? I have no idea what’s wd and what’s poop out at this point. I’ve read long holds during poop out aren’t good but I had no choice when I crashed hard last year. When I hit poop out 2 years ago I started tapering and went from 40mg to 16.5mg in a year. That’s when severe wd hit and I’ve been holding ever since. I’m lost at what to do

Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd

Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018)

Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out.
Continuing to take 15mg mirtazapine and 100mg seroquel while tapering off Paxil
July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg, 10/21/24-31.59mg, 10/28/24-30.78mg, 11/4/24-29.97mg, 11/11/24-29.16mg, 12/2/24-28.43mg, 12/9/24-27.7mg, 12/16/24-26.97mg, 12/23/24-26.24mg, 1/13/25-25.58mg, 1/20/25-24.92mg, 1/27/25-24.26mg, 2/3/25-23.62mg, 2/24/25-23.03mg, 3/3/25-22.44mg, 3/10/25-21.85mg, 3/17/25-21.26mg, 4/7/25-20.73mg, 4/14/25-20.20mg, 4/21/25-20mg, 5/12/25-19.5mg, 5/19/25-19mg, 5/26/25-18.5mg, 6/2/25-18mg, 6/23/25-17.55mg, 6/30/25-17.10mg, 7/7/25-16.65mg, 8/23/25-17.10mg, 8/28/25-17.55mg, 9/1/25-18.5mg, 9/11/25-19.5mg, 9/12/25-19mg, 9/13/25-18.5mg

July 21Jul 21

When was your last window? How long did it last? How long is this wave been? I thought the Windows were getting longer? As long as you have windows, calibration is still happening.

I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg

9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

August 4Aug 4

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On 7/21/2026 at 7:20 PM, LostinCanada said:
When was your last window? How long did it last? How long is this wave been? I thought the Windows were getting longer? As long as you have windows, calibration is still happening.

I’m sure you’re right LIC. The last wave was really bad and lasted longer than it’s been in months. It’s very discouraging when you think waves are getting better and then you go backwards. I’m still in the windows and waves pattern.

Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd

Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018)

Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out.
Continuing to take 15mg mirtazapine and 100mg seroquel while tapering off Paxil
July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg, 10/21/24-31.59mg, 10/28/24-30.78mg, 11/4/24-29.97mg, 11/11/24-29.16mg, 12/2/24-28.43mg, 12/9/24-27.7mg, 12/16/24-26.97mg, 12/23/24-26.24mg, 1/13/25-25.58mg, 1/20/25-24.92mg, 1/27/25-24.26mg, 2/3/25-23.62mg, 2/24/25-23.03mg, 3/3/25-22.44mg, 3/10/25-21.85mg, 3/17/25-21.26mg, 4/7/25-20.73mg, 4/14/25-20.20mg, 4/21/25-20mg, 5/12/25-19.5mg, 5/19/25-19mg, 5/26/25-18.5mg, 6/2/25-18mg, 6/23/25-17.55mg, 6/30/25-17.10mg, 7/7/25-16.65mg, 8/23/25-17.10mg, 8/28/25-17.55mg, 9/1/25-18.5mg, 9/11/25-19.5mg, 9/12/25-19mg, 9/13/25-18.5mg

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August 4Aug 4

1 hour ago, Willy said:
I’m sure you’re right LIC. The last wave was really bad and lasted longer than it’s been in months. It’s very discouraging when you think waves are getting better and then you go backwards. I’m still in the windows and waves pattern.

The knee jerk reaction is always to thing the worse. After all this stress with the B12 and the MRI/TIA scare, I have been in a wave and convinced myself it's poop out and almost did a drop as a reaction....ugh...but I am leveling out again....it is so crazy emotionally.

Love you @Willy

We are going to get through this.... paroxetine is horrible.....you are going to sail through after this. ❤️🙏

I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg

9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

August 4Aug 4

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3 hours ago, LostinCanada said:
Love you @Willy
We are going to get through this.... paroxetine is horrible.....you are going to sail through after this

Love you too. This entire situation we are in is unbelievable

Hope things settle for you!

Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd

Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018)

Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out.
Continuing to take 15mg mirtazapine and 100mg seroquel while tapering off Paxil
July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg, 10/21/24-31.59mg, 10/28/24-30.78mg, 11/4/24-29.97mg, 11/11/24-29.16mg, 12/2/24-28.43mg, 12/9/24-27.7mg, 12/16/24-26.97mg, 12/23/24-26.24mg, 1/13/25-25.58mg, 1/20/25-24.92mg, 1/27/25-24.26mg, 2/3/25-23.62mg, 2/24/25-23.03mg, 3/3/25-22.44mg, 3/10/25-21.85mg, 3/17/25-21.26mg, 4/7/25-20.73mg, 4/14/25-20.20mg, 4/21/25-20mg, 5/12/25-19.5mg, 5/19/25-19mg, 5/26/25-18.5mg, 6/2/25-18mg, 6/23/25-17.55mg, 6/30/25-17.10mg, 7/7/25-16.65mg, 8/23/25-17.10mg, 8/28/25-17.55mg, 9/1/25-18.5mg, 9/11/25-19.5mg, 9/12/25-19mg, 9/13/25-18.5mg

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Yesterday at 04:53 PM1 day

Thinking about you today....it is an unbelievable situation.... Acceptance, hope.

Big hugs and lots of love. ❤️🙏

I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg

9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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12 hours ago12 hr

Yes joining in @Willy hope things are a little easier for you......

I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys.

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Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

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10 hours ago, Chippy said:
Yes joining in @Willy hope things are a little easier for you......

Thanks chippy!

Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd

Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018)

Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out.
Continuing to take 15mg mirtazapine and 100mg seroquel while tapering off Paxil
July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg, 10/21/24-31.59mg, 10/28/24-30.78mg, 11/4/24-29.97mg, 11/11/24-29.16mg, 12/2/24-28.43mg, 12/9/24-27.7mg, 12/16/24-26.97mg, 12/23/24-26.24mg, 1/13/25-25.58mg, 1/20/25-24.92mg, 1/27/25-24.26mg, 2/3/25-23.62mg, 2/24/25-23.03mg, 3/3/25-22.44mg, 3/10/25-21.85mg, 3/17/25-21.26mg, 4/7/25-20.73mg, 4/14/25-20.20mg, 4/21/25-20mg, 5/12/25-19.5mg, 5/19/25-19mg, 5/26/25-18.5mg, 6/2/25-18mg, 6/23/25-17.55mg, 6/30/25-17.10mg, 7/7/25-16.65mg, 8/23/25-17.10mg, 8/28/25-17.55mg, 9/1/25-18.5mg, 9/11/25-19.5mg, 9/12/25-19mg, 9/13/25-18.5mg

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On 8/31/2026 at 12:53 PM, LostinCanada said:
Thinking about you today....it is an unbelievable situation.... Acceptance, hope.
Big hugs and lots of love. ❤️🙏

Hi LIC! I’m still dealing with windows and waves. The past month has been better with the waves being less intense. Still very frustrating and tough to deal with. This month marks one year of holding. Not sure why it’s taking so long to stabilize. I was hoping to stabilize sooner so I can continue with the taper. I wonder if the pattern of windows and waves I’m in is my new wd normal? I still get hit with the bloating and nausea which I’m sick of dealing with. Anyway I still plan on holding to see if these waves will stop or space out more.

I hope you’re hanging in there. I think about you a lot. Thanks for always supporting us! Love you!!

Oct Nov 2017 - 30mg diazepam every night. CT Dec 2017 extreme wd

Jan 2018 - 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel, 1mg lorazepam (taper off Mar 2018)

Jan 2019- 20mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

April 2021- 30mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

Feb 2024 - 40mg Paxil, 15mg mirtazapine, 100mg seroquel

July 2024 in withdrawal from Paxil poop out.
Continuing to take 15mg mirtazapine and 100mg seroquel while tapering off Paxil
July 29, 2024 started 40mg paroxetine taper using brass monkey method-7/29/24-39mg, 8/5/24-38mg, 8/12/24-37mg, 8/19/24-36mg, 9/9/24-35.1mg, 9/16/24-34.2mg, 9/23/24-33.3mg, 9/30/24-32.4mg, 10/21/24-31.59mg, 10/28/24-30.78mg, 11/4/24-29.97mg, 11/11/24-29.16mg, 12/2/24-28.43mg, 12/9/24-27.7mg, 12/16/24-26.97mg, 12/23/24-26.24mg, 1/13/25-25.58mg, 1/20/25-24.92mg, 1/27/25-24.26mg, 2/3/25-23.62mg, 2/24/25-23.03mg, 3/3/25-22.44mg, 3/10/25-21.85mg, 3/17/25-21.26mg, 4/7/25-20.73mg, 4/14/25-20.20mg, 4/21/25-20mg, 5/12/25-19.5mg, 5/19/25-19mg, 5/26/25-18.5mg, 6/2/25-18mg, 6/23/25-17.55mg, 6/30/25-17.10mg, 7/7/25-16.65mg, 8/23/25-17.10mg, 8/28/25-17.55mg, 9/1/25-18.5mg, 9/11/25-19.5mg, 9/12/25-19mg, 9/13/25-18.5mg

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21 minutes ago, Willy said:
Hi LIC! I’m still dealing with windows and waves. The past month has been better with the waves being less intense. Still very frustrating and tough to deal with. This month marks one year of holding. Not sure why it’s taking so long to stabilize. I was hoping to stabilize sooner so I can continue with the taper. I wonder if the pattern of windows and waves I’m in is my new wd normal? I still get hit with the bloating and nausea which I’m sick of dealing with. Anyway I still plan on holding to see if these waves will stop or space out more.
I hope you’re hanging in there. I think about you a lot. Thanks for always supporting us! Love you!!

Good news even though it isn't perfect.

I think stability is so hard because you were dealing with Benzo withdrawal underneath all this. Hopefully those windows will get a bit longer. Love you too. ❤️🙏

I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA.

Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01

TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg

9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

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