Hi all. I've decided to RI after much debate. I'd like to start on a lower amount as I am afraid of kindling. I feel like I have over consumed a bit on information today. I've tried to read as much as I could regarding the topics we discussed today on SA so I can better understand what is going on in my body. In doing so I've also scared myself too.

 

We are currently trying to turn (1) 10mg capsule into a liquid. I've read the guides but are struggling a little bit with the dosing. Is it correct that if I dissolve (1) 10mg capsule in 10ml of water that then taking 1ml = 1mg of Prozac? I feel like it might be distributed unequally in the water. We are using new insulin needles we have for measuring. I've read other posts about liquid prozac and it seems like 1ml does not equal 1mg. 

 

I'm struggling, sorry if this is a dumb question. I wonder if I will need to revisit this in the morning. I'm not sure I am doing this correctly. 

27 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

I've read other posts about liquid prozac and it seems like 1ml does not equal 1mg. 

First off, this would be the manufactured liquid Prozac….not a diy liquid.

28 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

dissolve (1) 10mg capsule in 10ml of water that then taking 1ml = 1mg of Prozac?

Yes, though 1 capsule to 20 ml of water is probably better. The water should be room temperature. Then stir or shake well. You may want it to sit 10-20 minutes and stir/shake again.
Make sure the syringes do not have needles.

Depending on the size of the syringe, draw up 10 ml of solution, if you are using the 20 ml of water. If you are using just 10 ml of water with a 10 mg capsule, draw up 5 ml of solution.

 

 

I'm no expert on reinstating and dose making, I just wanted to say I hope it goes well for you- let us know how you get on.

11 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

First off, this would be the manufactured liquid Prozac….not a diy liquid.

Yes, though 1 capsule to 20 ml of water is probably better. The water should be room temperature. Then stir or shake well. You may want it to sit 10-20 minutes and stir/shake again.
Make sure the syringes do not have needles.

Depending on the size of the syringe, draw up 10 ml of solution, if you are using the 20 ml of water. If you are using just 10 ml of water with a 10 mg capsule, draw up 5 ml of solution.

 

 

Thank you for the clarification! 

Okay, I was able to obtain more detailed records from my doctor regarding my prior withdrawal on Prozac. I have updated my signature. If anyone is able, would you mind reviewing it and giving me your thoughts?

 

Basically, all heck broke loose for me in October of 2025 following molybdenum supplementation my doctor put me on for mold illness. Basically I took it and saw and immediate spike in panic/anxiety/intrusive thoughts/and overwhelm that I have not recovered from since then. Basically my inability to be alone from fear started then. I did have some backsliding in symptoms over 2024 but I was still living a mostly functional life.

 

I am trying to figure out if Prozac withdraw is a component of this rapid decline I saw in October or if I am trying to make a correlation that is simply not there. I am completely aware that my current worsened symptoms the past few weeks are from my too rapid taper over the last month of Prozac. That being said I started getting much worse in October and I am not sure if I can attribute it to Prozac. 

 

I have a history of always digging and digging and digging trying to find the root cause and sometimes I feel like I just get myself stuck in a hole. I do have a very open minded doctor and over the past year she has been fairly stumped (and honest about it with me) as to the root cause of my issues from October to now. I have been to a number of doctors and she has by far been the best so I am not really wanting to keep seeking out providers.

 

I am one of her most sensitive patients (which I have been described as by almost every doctor I've seen.) I just keep trying to figure out what went wrong in October and how I can fix it. I've tried researching the potential connection between molybdenum and Prozac in brain receptors and found some evidence that Prozac alters the function of glutamate which would contribute to some neurotoxicity potential with molybdenum but there are relatively no studies and I really had to dig to even make that connection. 

 

As always, thoughts are appreciated. 

32 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

Okay, I was able to obtain more detailed records from my doctor regarding my prior withdrawal on Prozac. I have updated my signature. If anyone is able, would you mind reviewing it and giving me your thoughts?

 

Basically, all heck broke loose for me in October of 2025 following molybdenum supplementation my doctor put me on for mold illness. Basically I took it and saw and immediate spike in panic/anxiety/intrusive thoughts/and overwhelm that I have not recovered from since then. Basically my inability to be alone from fear started then. I did have some backsliding in symptoms over 2024 but I was still living a mostly functional life.

 

I am trying to figure out if Prozac withdraw is a component of this rapid decline I saw in October or if I am trying to make a correlation that is simply not there. I am completely aware that my current worsened symptoms the past few weeks are from my too rapid taper over the last month of Prozac. That being said I started getting much worse in October and I am not sure if I can attribute it to Prozac. 

 

I have a history of always digging and digging and digging trying to find the root cause and sometimes I feel like I just get myself stuck in a hole. I do have a very open minded doctor and over the past year she has been fairly stumped (and honest about it with me) as to the root cause of my issues from October to now. I have been to a number of doctors and she has by far been the best so I am not really wanting to keep seeking out providers.

 

I am one of her most sensitive patients (which I have been described as by almost every doctor I've seen.) I just keep trying to figure out what went wrong in October and how I can fix it. I've tried researching the potential connection between molybdenum and Prozac in brain receptors and found some evidence that Prozac alters the function of glutamate which would contribute to some neurotoxicity potential with molybdenum but there are relatively no studies and I really had to dig to even make that connection. 

 

As always, thoughts are appreciated. 

So if I’m reading that right you were taking 10mg until you were given a supplement that you reacted badly too, then you updoses to 20mg to try to fix that reaction?

@HopeHeals

This is my take on it all....though speculation, I think it is pretty accurate. You had a negative reaction to molybdenum. This would have effected your CNS. The fact you updosed fluoxetine and that made no difference rules out that it was fluoxetine causing the issue.

Since your too fast taper, you now have added withdrawal.

No matter the complications from molybdenum, the withdrawal from dropping to zero needs to be addressed. You body needs stability. We can not undo anything from the molybdenum, but we can help cushion withdrawal. 

It is just a matter of time now for healing and stability.

Edited March 27Mar 27 by LostinCanada

Just now, LostinCanada said:

@HopeHeals

This is my take on it all....though speculation, I think it is pretty accurate. You had a negative reaction to molybdenum. This would have effected your CNS. The fact you updosed fluoxetine and that made no difference rules out that it was that drug causing the issue.

Since your too fast taper, you now have added withdrawal.

No matter the complications from molybdenum, the withdrawal from dropping to zero needs to be addressed. You body needs stability. We can not undo anything from the molybdenum, but we can help cushion withdrawal. 

It is just a matter of time now for healing and stability.

That’s what I’m reading. But obviously your nervous system is more fragile than I realised so a bit of caution is needed here I think. 

16 minutes ago, Chippy said:

obviously your nervous system is more fragile than I realised so a bit of caution is needed here I think. 

I am glad Chippy recommended 5 mg....that is a cautious approach. Further to this, you have had a lot of large dosage changes so being consistent and sticking with the 5 mg is really important.

1 hour ago, Chippy said:

So if I’m reading that right you were taking 10mg until you were given a supplement that you reacted badly too, then you updoses to 20mg to try to fix that reaction?

That is correct, I think it was more of a see if it helps versus trying to fix the problem. But that might be one in the same.

1 hour ago, LostinCanada said:

@HopeHeals

This is my take on it all....though speculation, I think it is pretty accurate. You had a negative reaction to molybdenum. This would have effected your CNS. The fact you updosed fluoxetine and that made no difference rules out that it was fluoxetine causing the issue.

Since your too fast taper, you now have added withdrawal.

No matter the complications from molybdenum, the withdrawal from dropping to zero needs to be addressed. You body needs stability. We can not undo anything from the molybdenum, but we can help cushion withdrawal. 

It is just a matter of time now for healing and stability.

That makes sense, thank you!

1 hour ago, Chippy said:

That’s what I’m reading. But obviously your nervous system is more fragile than I realised so a bit of caution is needed here I think. 

That makes sense. I was thinking about trying out 2mg and updosing after a few consistent weeks from there if needed. Would that further mitigate the kindling effect potentially? That would be 10% of the 20mg I think. From reading online I feel like my sensitivity lends me to be very susceptible to a potential kindling event. Typically I have to be very careful with any supplements I take because I often react negatively to them. 

1 minute ago, HopeHeals said:

That makes sense. I was thinking about trying out 2mg and updosing after a few consistent weeks from there if needed. Would that further mitigate the kindling effect potentially? That would be 10% of the 20mg I think. From reading online I feel like my sensitivity lends me to be very susceptible to a potential kindling event. Typically I have to be very careful with any supplements I take because I often react negatively to them. 

We have dialled in some caution already with the 5mg. We can’t know for sure what is right. You have to judge what you think is right based on what we’ve told you. But cautious I think is best. 

How are you managing @HopeHeals?

Did you reinstate and at what dose? What is happening with your symptoms? ❤️🙏

Hi all! Checking back in today, I apologize for my absence. In all honesty the past week has been a roller coaster. Back last week when I was discussing the worsening of my symptoms and wanting to taper, there was something else going on in my body I didn't realize. Last Tuesday I was really starting to feel off and I couldn't put my finger on it. I blamed the Prozac withdrawal (which I am sure is a component of it). I kept getting worse and worse, symptoms including intrusive thoughts, fear, anxiety, depression, the whole works.

 

Then sometime about Tuesday-Thursday I developed a low grade fever, and a whole boat load of viral symptoms started, fever, aches, pain, congestion, exhaustion, etc. On Saturday I went to urgent care and tested positive for RSV. I learned I've been coming down with this for at least a week prior. I am not exaggerating when I say since last week to now is the sickest I have ever been in my life. My family also caught it, but their symptoms were milder. I had a consistent fever for 6 days, severe throat pain, coughing, the whole works etc. Yesterday and today I finally am on the mend from RSV but expect to still have symptoms lingering for another week. 

 

I really did not want to updose when I realized I was very sick and feverish. I was feeling a bit delirious from the fevers and did not feel like I could make a good decision. I was afraid if I did updose and had a negative/positive reaction I would have no way of knowing if it was related to the illness or not. I am also curiously wondering if my withdrawal symptoms will move back into a little more tolerable pattern as the virus finally leaves my body. I do wonder how much that may have been agitating my central nervous system. 

 

So that is what is going on with me right now!

 

I guess I do have one question rattling in my brain. Are there people who CT a dose and do get better over time? Or is it always damaging and unproductive? I've kinda seen a lot of varying information but I am a little bit between "stick it out for a year CT" and "go back to prozac tapering."

 

I will say for context as to why I am not quick to make a decision, and come across as wishy washy, is that I wholeheartedly believe that Prozac has been the root cause of severe/debilitating intrusive thoughts in my brain. I see it as a poison in my body and I am sad it took me so many years to figure it out.

 

 

7 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

Are there people who CT a dose and do get better over time? Or is it always damaging and unproductive?

Yes, most people get better. Reinstatement cushions the depth of the withdrawal symptoms. It is not a perfect solution either. Unfortunately there are no guarantees either way.... reinstatement often helps people be more functional but once stable, you are left tapering.

11 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

"stick it out for a year CT"

Reinstatement is best done within 3 months. The longer you wait, the less likely the success of it helping. As mentioned with prozac, because of the long half life, the symptoms of WD often peak outside that 3 month period.

 

❤️🙏

14 minutes ago, HopeHeals said:

Hi all! Checking back in today, I apologize for my absence. In all honesty the past week has been a roller coaster. Back last week when I was discussing the worsening of my symptoms and wanting to taper, there was something else going on in my body I didn't realize. Last Tuesday I was really starting to feel off and I couldn't put my finger on it. I blamed the Prozac withdrawal (which I am sure is a component of it). I kept getting worse and worse, symptoms including intrusive thoughts, fear, anxiety, depression, the whole works.

 

Then sometime about Tuesday-Thursday I developed a low grade fever, and a whole boat load of viral symptoms started, fever, aches, pain, congestion, exhaustion, etc. On Saturday I went to urgent care and tested positive for RSV. I learned I've been coming down with this for at least a week prior. I am not exaggerating when I say since last week to now is the sickest I have ever been in my life. My family also caught it, but their symptoms were milder. I had a consistent fever for 6 days, severe throat pain, coughing, the whole works etc. Yesterday and today I finally am on the mend from RSV but expect to still have symptoms lingering for another week. 

 

I really did not want to updose when I realized I was very sick and feverish. I was feeling a bit delirious from the fevers and did not feel like I could make a good decision. I was afraid if I did updose and had a negative/positive reaction I would have no way of knowing if it was related to the illness or not. I am also curiously wondering if my withdrawal symptoms will move back into a little more tolerable pattern as the virus finally leaves my body. I do wonder how much that may have been agitating my central nervous system. 

 

So that is what is going on with me right now!

 

I guess I do have one question rattling in my brain. Are there people who CT a dose and do get better over time? Or is it always damaging and unproductive? I've kinda seen a lot of varying information but I am a little bit between "stick it out for a year CT" and "go back to prozac tapering."

 

I will say for context as to why I am not quick to make a decision, and come across as wishy washy, is that I wholeheartedly believe that Prozac has been the root cause of severe/debilitating intrusive thoughts in my brain. I see it as a poison in my body and I am sad it took me so many years to figure it out.

 

 

Very sorry about the virus @HopeHeals sounds tough and certainly makes it difficult for the system to cope while in withdrawal.

Regarding increasing or continuing as is, if the symptoms are at a tolerable level, I would consider continuing for a predetermined period of time and seeing how it goes, the goal is to get rid of this poison eventually so if you can pull that it's certainly worth it, increasing is always an option whose results cannot be predicted in advance anyway.

And people definitely get better even after CT the initial blow is harder yes but the body knows how to recover well from that too.

Whatever you decide, we are with you.

Hope you continue to get better.

2 hours ago, HopeHeals said:

Saturday I went to urgent care and tested positive for RSV.

Oh no! I’m very sorry to read this! Glad you seem to be getting the right side of it now. 
 

2 hours ago, HopeHeals said:

was afraid if I did updose and had a negative/positive reaction I would have no way of knowing if it was related to the illness or not.

I can understand that. 
 

2 hours ago, HopeHeals said:

I will say for context as to why I am not quick to make a decision, and come across as wishy washy, is that I wholeheartedly believe that Prozac has been the root cause of severe/debilitating intrusive thoughts in my brain. I see it as a poison in my body and I am sad it took me so many years to figure it out.

You’re not alone. Lots of people find their drug doesn’t play nice with them. Ideally we wouldn’t be on them at all. 
 

People certainly do recover. Everyone gets there eventually. Unfortunately we just don’t know the journey from here. Either choice is a valid one. You may find a fairly low dose props you up enough, making a taper less long and any side effects more bareable.
 

As you know, sooner rather than later is best, but I get your hesitation. 
 

Main thing as LIC said is the half life. It could take some time to see the full wd effect.

 

What ever you decide we are here for you as always. 

@HopeHeals

Just checking in to see how you are?