Hello! I’ve migrated from SA and am glad to be here! I’m dealing with a few things:

- tapered Mirt too quickly earlier in the year but following hyperbolic tapering since end of May 2025, summer of 2024 went off at 1.875mg, reinstated 28 days later at 0.9375mg-big mistake, but caught before it was extremely bad withdrawals

- late Sept 2025 discontinuing thyroid meds I took for over 20 years per doctor’s recommendation because of the low dose I had been on

- perimenopause - so d/c thyroid meds made quite the ripple in this process

- Dec 19, 2025 switched from weighing my own Mirt to a compounded Rx, same manufacturer but still an adjustment 

 

I hope to be free of Mirt by August 2027 but only God knows the true plan. My energy is lower than normal, and it takes a lot to get moving especially in the morning. I’m also feeling down—again not like me, but there are a lot of hormonal shifts happening and recalibrating along with Mirt’s sedating effects the lower you go. I would like my energy back in a peaceful manner. I can tend toward sympathetic nervous system staying stuck. 

Many coping skills help with patience and hope such as exercise, journaling, supplements/fairly clean eating, aromatherapy, herbal tea, singing, staying in the present moment, and prayers, especially of surrender. The support we’ll offer each other is great medicine too.

 

I look forward to connecting with you soon!

 

Here’s my journey so far on sa: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/5069-namastejen-remeronmirtazapine-currently-tapering-under-05mg/

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Hey namastejen1

 

Welcome to the forum!

 

I’ve linked your sa post here for you. 

 

You’ve had a bit of a journey getting off Mirt haven’t you! Glad you’re in the right path now with a nice slow taper. I’m sorry you’re having a bumpy patch atm hope this eases for you soon. 

 

I think your list of coping skills is excellent advise!

 

Speak soon

 

Chippy

Thank you for joining. I hope this place is a valuable source of support to you.

 

As discussed, please get in touch if you'd like to contribute some useful guides on coping skills, that would likely provide a lot of value to people.

Thank you @Luke and @Chippy! 

 

I attempted to add a signature line last night. It didn’t look right, but did it from my phone vs a laptop. I’ll try again from my laptop and see if it looks okay. I’m wondering about how to delete the ? in my title too. 

 

Luke, I can message you the article I have on SA about polyvagal exercises.

Take care!

Thank you @Luke and @Chippy! 

 

I attempted to add a signature line last night. It didn’t look right, but did it from my phone vs a laptop. I’ll try again from my laptop and see if it looks okay. I’m wondering about how to delete the ? in my title too. 

 

Luke, I can message you the article I have on SA about polyvagal exercises.

Take care!

Hey I’ve deleted the ? For you. Try either typing the signature manually or when you paste use a paste without formatting option if it’s available or match existing format option. Either options should sort this issue.

Will do with the signature.

 

My title after my username probably doesn’t like the heart emoji and puts the ? after it. 

 

Sx: I think I’m having neuro-emotions or what I would call trauma releases. They surge through and then abate. Anyone else experiencing then? It could be the new compounded Rx that I’m adjusting to, but I was also looking through my old story on SA from 2013. It was a bit triggering. 

 

To cope: I learned a new technique in Spiritual Direction this week. I can definitely post about it in the coping skills. It reminds me of things I even learned when I was deeper in yoga teaching and retreats, but I didn’t realize my Catholic faith also subscribed to, which is surrender. Just surrendering it all to God. I was away from church for a long time, but back now for 8 years, and quite frankly I forgot to truly rely on that relationship with God as our true secure attachment. It’s been there the whole time but it needed practice to truly trust that relationship. ***I would like people to know that I am more about interfaith and honoring other people’s path even if not religious — just putting it out there.

 

Other Sx of the day: My tinnitus is pretty bad on this compounded Rx. I’m just trying to ignore and stay busy. On SA I posted about it recently on B’s page. The increase in G tech 5G, 6G, 7G, etc, can also cause it. EMF and the like really affect our sensitive systems. Be careful not to wear any WiFi device and not hold it all day either. It messes with our body’s natural processes.

It’s 12:39pm here by the way!!

Hey 

 

I’ve found the other ? Didn’t spot it in the thread title. It’s gone now. 

 

Thanks for update on your symptoms. Do you have any more info on your symptoms. What do they feel like? Anxiety for example…? 

 

I think it would be great if you wrote something for the coping skills section. :)

 

I saw your post on Bs thread. Very interesting. I dread to think the damage all these wireless devices do to us. That and modern living in general.

 

Just before 7pm here!

 

Chippy

If you are absolutely struggling with your signature, let us know. We can manually edit them.

 

I don't want to write everybody's but equally if it's just not working for you or you're struggling with it, I am happy to help.

Thank you both! I finally figured it out. I needed to slow down and read better what you had out there for the signature.

 

I felt overwhelmed/body shaky--body memory of the akathisia/you could call it anxiety--felt very somatic. I cried to release, prayed about it, and it passed. Came and went quickly like a discharge of overstimulation in the nervous system/body. It has happened before but not for a long while. I guess this is part of the withdrawal process. I am hoping the shift like that, which we call pendulation in Somatic Experiencing, is indicating regulation. Most of the rest of the day has been okay. But women can be emotional during their cycle. It's a lot happening at one time.

 

Anyhow, have a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays! I hope everyone can be with loved ones, rest, have fun, and connect with nature even if looking out the window at a tree or bush. My husband bought me a juicer for my birthday and Christmas (because they are relatively close to each other), and I already have enough other stuff. I think juicing will be healthy. It does other things too besides juicing, so it will be fun to make nut butters, sorbet, (GF) pasta, etc. Hope you are able to get what you would like this season too!

Thank you both! I finally figured it out. I needed to slow down and read better what you had out there for the signature.

 

I felt overwhelmed/body shaky--body memory of the akathisia/you could call it anxiety--felt very somatic. I cried to release, prayed about it, and it passed. Came and went quickly like a discharge of overstimulation in the nervous system/body. It has happened before but not for a long while. I guess this is part of the withdrawal process. I am hoping the shift like that, which we call pendulation in Somatic Experiencing, is indicating regulation. Most of the rest of the day has been okay. But women can be emotional during their cycle. It's a lot happening at one time.

 

Anyhow, have a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays! I hope everyone can be with loved ones, rest, have fun, and connect with nature even if looking out the window at a tree or bush. My husband bought me a juicer for my birthday and Christmas (because they are relatively close to each other), and I already have enough other stuff. I think juicing will be healthy. It does other things too besides juicing, so it will be fun to make nut butters, sorbet, (GF) pasta, etc. Hope you are able to get what you would like this season too!

Well done on sorting out the signature. 

I can recognise this from my early recovery. I called it chemical psychological symptoms. I haven’t had them for a year now. But over the first 9 months the came in various forms. Heavy fog. Panic. Anxious. Depression. All sorts of emotions but with no cause. Just overwhelming and strong. Level 10 volume. But they would go just as quick. I had different phases of them over that 9 months but I always knew they weren’t me and it was the drug that had caused them. I’m now thinking they fit this neuro-emotions category you talk about here. 

 

Happy Christmas too! My birthday is close to Christmas too so snap! We don’t go mad here at Christmas mainly just treat our son! A juicer is a great gift! Have fun with it!

 

Chippy

Luke, I can message you the article I have on SA about polyvagal exercises.

 

Please do.

Hi namestejen1, I am also tapering the hellish Mirtazapine. I am on 0,32 mg. I would ask you if you experience anhedonia. I don't have feeling for nothing, it is awful, I seat on my coach all the day with doing nothing, no motivation, I am not myself. It is unbearable, inhumane, empty shell...

Svetla

Thank you all for responding. Had a busy Christmas Day. 

@Chippy yes, I remember a very chemical feeling of having thoughts being sucked into a black hole. That hasn’t happened in a long time, thank God, and I knew it wasn’t me. The emotions can be the same in terms of it seeming like it has another origin, not like yourself, chemical soup. 

@Luke, I emailed you the polyvagal exercises pdf. Hopefully you received it.

@skamen With the elimination of thyroid Rx recently (maybe I should’ve held off of stopping it), it added to a lot of fatigue that already comes with Mirt. Sometimes I can feel down or sort of numbish—I find prayer/meditation, talking walks in nature (because it’s too cold here to sit outside) or sitting by a sunny window, doing things that have brought me joy or at least contentment, half smile, warm tea or cocoa in hand, journaling, singing, helping others, etc. help me feel productive and keep my mind-body focused. There are not so great moments though where tears flow and I can feel stuck. I’m learning more and more about surrendering to and trusting God. I know not everyone is there for a variety of reasons, and it’s okay. 

I remember polydrugged days of not coping well at all, so agitated it was difficult to do anything but panic, my brain was overwhelmed, and feel this current stint is manageable in comparison. Though I tend to run more on the side of sympathetic nervous system activated vs parasympathetic where I think you may be stuck (dorsal vagal).

I’m sorry if what you’re going through is really numb and stuck—it’s an awful feeling, but you can do small things to shift yourself out of it. Even little gestures make a difference. Be patient with yourself and you’ll make your way out of it. Our nervous system pendulates from activation to deactivation cycles. We love to be in ventral vagal all the time, which is a balance point: grounded, centered, alert, socially engaged, and calm. But triggers, these darn Rx, other health conditions, etc. can take us out of balance.

Merry/Happy Christmas or Holidays! 

The light is here (many traditions) and the new year is coming. I hope it is the best year yet for all of us!

 

@Chippy yes, I remember a very chemical feeling of having thoughts being sucked into a black hole. That hasn’t happened in a long time, thank God, and I knew it wasn’t me. The emotions can be the same in terms of it seeming like it has another origin, not like yourself, chemical soup. 

I knew straight away it wasn't me. I think we are very connected without realising it to our actual emotions. This Chemical Soup you called it, sounds about right to me, good description! Dread to think how many are on these drugs and think its relapse when its drug interactions all along.

@Luke, I emailed you the polyvagal exercises pdf. Hopefully you received it.

 

 

I've got your email. I'll look into getting the PDF. It may be some time until I get to it but it's on the list.

You’re both asleep. No probs about the pdf, when you have time. Just do your best to balance this site with all your other obligations. It’s just great to have a place set up for the group that is here and the additional people who will be coming over. 

 

Can’t wait to eat only healthy soup vs the addition of chemical soup we continue take until tapering is over, have to deal with as CT recovery, or just recovery after these Rx in general. We each have something to cope with and will get better. 

 

Does anyone know if B is migrating over here?

You’re both asleep. No probs about the pdf, when you have time. Just do your best to balance this site with all your other obligations. It’s just great to have a place set up for the group that is here and the additional people who will be coming over. 

 

Can’t wait to eat only healthy soup vs the addition of chemical soup we continue take until tapering is over, have to deal with as CT recovery, or just recovery after these Rx in general. We each have something to cope with and will get better. 

 

Does anyone know if B is migrating over here?

Morning! 

 

Yes a drug free life is the one. But slow a steady wins that race.

 

Bs on a rough ride atm as you know. Think he’ll get to it when he has a chance. Just one day at a time for him. He had the early tester invite but it was a bit more than he could chew at the time.  Wish there was more we could do. Wave from hell. Can’t wait to see him here.

I would expect an influx of people who preferred to just use one site at a time in late January when SA does actually close.

It’s a juggling act being on more than one site right now. Have a great Sunday evening! I’ll check out the latest here and see how everyone’s doing. God bless everyone or well wishes.

Hey

 

Just checking in on you! How are you feeling taper wise? You mentioned your mood and energy levels in your intro post. How are things going at the moment?

 

 

Chippy

Hi Chippy, 

 

Thanks for asking. I am pretty fatigued with ups and downs in emotions. I exercise much less these days versus how I used to be quite fit, because I can become quite tired. I remember B saying we need to divert energy to brain healing and this can account for the fatigue we feel. I think the elimination of the thyroid Rx a few months back is also contributing to this. So I have to deal with rebuilding that too. I see my functional chiropractor this upcoming weekend to assess what the next steps are. She is usually very good at muscle testing what I need and we are cautious with herbs and mostly do food-based or homeopathic. The body lets you know what it can and cannot handle--she and her husband have a unique way to help people in their practice--it's called nutrition response testing.

 

I am doing my best to keep positive and do what I can--which is still quite a bit considering, just slower, and more spread out than usual. The go-go-go part of me has to be more mindful of energy levels at the moment. My 13yo son has been a joy to be around. He's been my buddy to hang out with over his and my winter break. I pray for healthy, calm, and sustained energy as I continue this journey. I pray for everyone all people struggling with health issues to find what will work for them to feel their best. Let's make 2026 a great year for all of us!  Happy New Year!!

 

Jennifer

Hey Jen

 

I am pretty fatigued with ups and downs in emotions. I exercise much less these days versus how I used to be quite fit, because I can become quite tired. I remember B saying we need to divert energy to brain healing and this can account for the fatigue we feel. I think the elimination of the thyroid Rx a few months back is also contributing to this. So I have to deal with rebuilding that too. I see my functional chiropractor this upcoming weekend to assess what the next steps are. She is usually very good at muscle testing what I need and we are cautious with herbs and mostly do food-based or homeopathic. The body lets you know what it can and cannot handle--she and her husband have a unique way to help people in their practice--it's called nutrition response testing.

Oh no that's not the best but totally understandable given everything your system is having to deal with! Take it easy don't over do it in your new role on here will you! Bs right the brain sucks energy healing. Love the more holistic approach to health. If more did this then less ADs would be consumed I convinced of it.

 

I am doing my best to keep positive and do what I can--which is still quite a bit considering, just slower, and more spread out than usual. The go-go-go part of me has to be more mindful of energy levels at the moment. My 13yo son has been a joy to be around. 

That's the way, call and positive energy all round. Hard in the world of noise but you got this! Im a busy bee naturally so I do need to always keep a a watch on myself so as to not over do things. Being a parent isn't easy but the most rewarding thing in the world!

Let's make 2026 a great year for all of us!  Happy New Year!!

Definitely! I wasn't expecting it start out with a new forum but here we are!

 

Thanks again for your help on here you're a star!

 

Chippy

We will all get through this. Each of us has something going on. And encouraging each other is the best part. 

Reminding each other of better times is a good tool. To access the memory for the brain and body’s sake, because it doesn’t remember time the way we think we do. Only what we bring in the present moment is experienced, so we have some agency in our healing. This is a gift for the new year that we can use right away. Happy New Year!!

Just wanted to post this here as it is a passion of mine to see everyone well again and use the healthiest products. This a long one!

I work with a functional chiropractor who recommends Standard Process products and other products too, and it has helped tremendously. She also does muscle testing to make sure my body will tolerate the product. The SP products may be available in Canada because we’re neighbors but with the crazy tariffs, who knows. And maybe because the herbal line, MediHerb, is from Australia, it may be available there too. It’s hard to tell. They’re naturopathic in their production and approach. It’s probably 95% food-based and then have an herbal line I just mentioned.  

I know I’ve shared this with others a little bit at a time and that we should all tread lightly with supplements but these have felt very safe to me. The PMG products are thought to repair/support our organs. Jane318 from SA uses them too.

I have quite the sensitive system and react to a fair share of herbs, Rx, anesthesia, shots, perfumes, smoke, etc. 

It’s my understanding that these supplements being food-based help correct nutritional deficiencies that allopathic/conventional medicine would never touch upon because of their petroleum-based Rx and other approaches to have us be at baseline/no symptoms vs optimal/preventative. Most herbs on the market are owned by very large corporations like Coca-Cola, etc and are also synthetic. I’ll try to find an article on this too. I do use some synthetic like Mg glycinate, don’t get me wrong, but find the food-based to be more easily assimilated into our bodies because our liver and kidneys don’t have to work as hard to process them and eliminate whatever doesn’t agree with our body.

All of this is a whole other way of looking at health and the interrelatedness of our whole body, not divided off specialty areas. 

It’s almost as if TCM meets Ayurveda meets homeopathy meets naturopathic medicine (which btw homeopathic and naturopathic schools of medicine were corruptly shut down in the U.S. in the early 1900s).

Disclaimer: I sell these SP products, but on a very small scale and only to a few clients and some friends. They allowed me to sell them because I have a mental health license. I will share an article about the nutrient deficiencies that happen when we take these particular psych drugs. I’m not looking to make any money off of this. I have seen lots of improvement with using the products personally and through stories of other more seasoned, practitioners’ clients improving in various areas of health. We have lunch and learn events and other educational events a few times a year, so I get to meet all these practitioners that have decades of experience than little ole me taking in what I can this past year. A rep, who was a certified nutritionist before she was hired into the company, has been educating me a couple times a month and has seen what Mirt WDs and tapering issues can do. She’s very supportive. I would gladly suggest a functional chiropractor, naturopathic physician, TCM practitioner, or other integrative medical doctors (they are out there but are in short supply) that sell these products or similar products in your area. 

**Just let me know how I can help you, even a little ways, because this whole ordeal can really break a person—but only for a season, and there is hope to heal. I really want people to feel better body, mind, and spirit. Food is thy medicine.