16 minutes ago, Treefrog said:

starting to be awake for parts of the night,

Please remember that sleeping issues are quite common in withdrawal and finding non drug methods of coping are much more beneficial.

https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/40-sleep-in-wd/?do=getNewComment

 

 

@Chippy and @LostinCanada, just want to let you know how much I appreciate your guidance. Don't know why I thought updosing the trazodone was not significant, but I am finally starting to get it into my head that I have to be a lot more careful about changing doses. Hoping for better days for all of us 💗

9 hours ago, Treefrog said:

I was starting to be awake for parts of the night, so I thought an updose would help. Guess that was a misstep since it sounds like that precludes the possibility of updosing citalopram for the time being. 

Unfortunately the sleep issues are just part of your wd. Yes I’d hold here and wait for a couple of weeks and see the effect of the increase. If you feel worse it could be the increase that has done it you see. I’d consider reducing it if you think the two are linked. 
 

Eventually there comes a point where you have to not try to fix things with dose shifts. Our control is limited. The body knows best. 

4 hours ago, Treefrog said:

@Chippy and @LostinCanada, just want to let you know how much I appreciate your guidance. Don't know why I thought updosing the trazodone was not significant, but I am finally starting to get it into my head that I have to be a lot more careful about changing doses. Hoping for better days for all of us 💗

It’s a pleasure @Treefrog it takes some time often to wrap our minds around this process all whilst suffering. We all make errors on our journey. You’ll settle eventually.
 

With the coffee I’d not have any near your dosing as LIC has said. I would however reduce it over a few days rather than CT. It can give you wd too!!! You’ll recover it’s not like ad wd but it can be unpleasant and you might mistake it for updose of trazodone. You can see why one dose change at a time is so important!

Wow you went to the dentist and got away with it 😊 my symptons ramped up after my treatment!...hope you are feeling OK 

8 hours ago, Beehive said:

Wow you went to the dentist and got away with it 😊 my symptons ramped up after my treatment!...hope you are feeling OK 

Thanks for checking in, @Beehive!

I think it was the relief of knowing that all I needed was a filling ($) instead of a crown! ($$$). Today I'm going for a throat biopsy and tomorrow, cataract surgery, so we'll see how I hold up to that... Otherwise, I've been in a wave for weeks but some days are better than others; hoping today is one of them, for both of us! 😊

10 hours ago, Chippy said:

It’s a pleasure @Treefrog it takes some time often to wrap our minds around this process all whilst suffering. We all make errors on our journey. You’ll settle eventually.
 

With the coffee I’d not have any near your dosing as LIC has said. I would however reduce it over a few days rather than CT. It can give you wd too!!! You’ll recover it’s not like ad wd but it can be unpleasant and you might mistake it for updose of trazodone. You can see why one dose change at a time is so important!

Thanks Chippy, I hadn't thought of that either! I was more focused on having lost any desire for coffee and feeling more anxious when I drank it. I didn't have any yesterday but I'll take a small cup today. I won't be able to have any tomorrow because I have cataract surgery and I can't have caffeine before that.

Yes I know what you mean about the money .Hope all goes well for you with your other appointments 🤗

Dear @Treefrog, I saw that you had a surgery. I really hope everything went well. Take your time for recovery, this is stress for the body.
sending you strength and prayers

Yes I have taken a bit of a beating the past couple of days. The throat biopsy on Thursday was much worse than I expected.

 

I wound up with a big crater in my tonsil that got cauterized, and it's been quite painful ever since. Really hoping I can avoid getting an infection...lots of the usual "what if blah blah blah?!!!" thoughts.

 

Then yesterday was the cataract surgery; I'd already been through it with the left eye so I knew what to expect and wasn't as apprehensive as I was the first time. Though I was still rigid with tension while I was lying on the operating table, but I expect everybody is!

 

It hasn't worked out quite as well as the first time. The pressure in my eye went up, so I need extra drops for that, and the eye is much scratchier than it was last time, though supposedly that's just because it's so dry.

 

I really appreciate your well wishes, it's a tough time right now, and while all this exacerbates the anxiety I'm already feeling, the wave I was in seems to have receded for now. Guess there's too much else going on and the old brain only has so much bandwidth! 😁

 

I'll be taking it very easy for the next few days. Hoping for better days for everyone! ❤️

Edited March 28Mar 28 by Treefrog

20 minutes ago, Treefrog said:

be taking it very easy for the next few days. Hoping for better days for everyone! ❤️

Glad for the update....that is a lot to deal with. Hopefully you can gargle with a salt water solution to help keep things infection free. 

If you need to use moisturizing eye drops, make sure they are preservative free and have no anti redness drugs. Apparently those things can cause rebound. I use Candor Vision Hylo lubricating eye drop.

Hopefully you reach a baseline soon. ❤️🙏

@Treefrog Sounds like you've had quite a battering would be tough even for someone not withdrawing.  So we'll done for you for getting through that ..a lot of self care now and let all this settle ,some bumpy days ahead but it will eventually even out and you will be back to withdrawal normal . Hold on and look after yourself .Come on here if you need support and reassurance someone will be around 🤗

41 minutes ago, Treefrog said:

Yes I have taken a bit of a beating the past couple of days. The throat biopsy on Thursday was much worse than I expected.

 

I wound up with a big crater in my tonsil that got cauterized, and it's been quite painful ever since. Really hoping I can avoid getting an infection...lots of the usual "what if blah blah blah?!!!" thoughts.

 

Then yesterday was the cataract surgery; I'd already been through it with the left eye so I knew what to expect and wasn't as apprehensive as I was the first time. Though I was still rigid with tension while I was lying on the operating table, but I expect everybody is!

 

It hasn't worked out quite as well as the first time. The pressure in my eye went up, so I need extra drops for that, and the eye is much scratchier than it was last time, though supposedly that's just because it's so dry.

 

I really appreciate your well wishes, it's a tough time right now, and while all this exacerbates the anxiety I'm already feeling, the wave I was in seems to have receded for now. Guess there's too much else going on and the old brain only has so much bandwidth! 😁

 

I'll be taking it very easy for the next few days. Hoping for better days for everyone! ❤️

I'm so sorry, you've been through some tough stuff the last few days and to top it off with this nasty withdrawal, wow, you seem to be handling it so well! @Treefrog wishing you a speedy recovery from your surgery and great overall relief.

Take good care, we're all here for you! ❣️

4 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

Glad for the update....that is a lot to deal with. Hopefully you can gargle with a salt water solution to help keep things infection free. 

Yes, I've been doing just that!

4 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

If you need to use moisturizing eye drops, make sure they are preservative free and have no anti redness drugs. Apparently those things can cause rebound. I use Candor Vision Hylo lubricating eye drop.

The eye surgeon told me the same thing, so that's what I've been using.

4 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

Hopefully you reach a baseline soon. ❤️🙏

Thank you LIC ❤️

12 hours ago, Treefrog said:

Yes I have taken a bit of a beating the past couple of days. The throat biopsy on Thursday was much worse than I expected.

 

I wound up with a big crater in my tonsil that got cauterized, and it's been quite painful ever since. Really hoping I can avoid getting an infection...lots of the usual "what if blah blah blah?!!!" thoughts.

 

Then yesterday was the cataract surgery; I'd already been through it with the left eye so I knew what to expect and wasn't as apprehensive as I was the first time. Though I was still rigid with tension while I was lying on the operating table, but I expect everybody is!

 

It hasn't worked out quite as well as the first time. The pressure in my eye went up, so I need extra drops for that, and the eye is much scratchier than it was last time, though supposedly that's just because it's so dry.

 

I really appreciate your well wishes, it's a tough time right now, and while all this exacerbates the anxiety I'm already feeling, the wave I was in seems to have receded for now. Guess there's too much else going on and the old brain only has so much bandwidth! 😁

 

I'll be taking it very easy for the next few days. Hoping for better days for everyone! ❤️

Sorry you’ve had a rough couple of days. I’ve actually never had any surgery myself but the idea isn’t exactly appealing to me! Think you’re brave doing through that and wd/taper at the same time. Hope it all heals up soon. Sorry it wasn’t as smooth as hoped. Rest easy. 

Like so many others whose stories I've been reading, I just can't seem to stabilize; in my case, since the sudden wave that started two months ago. Any windows since then have been short-lived.

 

Not that there's much I can do about it, but I expect one reason I can't settle is the other stress in my life right now. I've mainly recovered from the cataract surgery, but unfortunately my vision is still so poor that I will need to resume wearing glasses as soon as my vision stabilizes, which was definitely not the outcome I was hoping for. And I'm an only child with a mother who has dementia, which is rapidly getting worse. She still knows who I am but she no longer understands that I live 6 hours away from her and can't just pop in for a visit... She is in assisted living, but her needs are steadily increasing and the buck stops here 🫩.

 

It's coming up to 3 weeks since I made a dose change, but I'm guessing that a citalopram updose probably isn't a great idea? 

 

 

 

Edited April 9Apr 9 by Treefrog

1 hour ago, Treefrog said:

Like so many others whose stories I've been reading, I just can't seem to stabilize; in my case, since the sudden wave that started two months ago. Any windows since then have been short-lived.

 

Not that there's much I can do about it, but I expect one reason I can't settle is the other stress in my life right now. I've mainly recovered from the cataract surgery, but unfortunately my vision is still so poor that I will need to resume wearing glasses as soon as my vision stabilizes, which was definitely not the outcome I was hoping for. And I'm an only child with a mother who has dementia, which is rapidly getting worse. She still knows who I am but she no longer understands that I live 6 hours away from her and can't just pop in for a visit... She is in assisted living, but her needs are steadily increasing and the buck stops here 🫩.

 

It's coming up to 3 weeks since I made a dose change, but I'm guessing that a citalopram updose probably isn't a great idea? 

 

 

 

I'm truly sorry to read this @Treefrog I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with what's been added to your plate as if withdrawal isn't hellish enough! life can be so brutal at times but we always find ways to cope, which you do with great courage and strength.

It may be that the change you made hasn't taken effect yet, it's probably worth waiting a little longer and see how things work without touching citalopram for now, obviously we are going to support any decision you make.

I'll pray for your relief very soon, hang in there!

Sending you a big, comforting hug!

Edited April 9Apr 9 by Fullhealing

1 hour ago, Treefrog said:

coming up to 3 weeks since I made a dose change, but I'm guessing that a citalopram updose probably isn't a great idea? 

No I would not suggest an updose.  Probably. in hindsight, it would have been better to wait till after surgery and the biopsy before a dose change. 

The CNS has limits to its stress level and then it says no more. Surgery was just 2 weeks ago.... please give yourself time. You are doing great.

Sorry about your mom... it's hard being the only one caring for her. But you have to put the oxygen mask on yourself first. Her needs are being cared for thankfully. 

❤️🙏

 

4 hours ago, Fullhealing said:

I'm truly sorry to read this @Treefrog I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with what's been added to your plate as if withdrawal isn't hellish enough! life can be so brutal at times but we always find ways to cope, which you do with great courage and strength.

It may be that the change you made hasn't taken effect yet, it's probably worth waiting a little longer and see how things work without touching citalopram for now, obviously we are going to support any decision you make.

I'll pray for your relief very soon, hang in there!

Sending you a big, comforting hug!

Thank you, @Fullhealing, I really appreciate your kind words and prayers, and especially your comforting hug! 🥰

 It makes such a difference knowing that there are other people out there who understand and care.♥️

I hope all is well with you and that you're enjoying a window 😊

4 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

No I would not suggest an updose.  Probably. in hindsight, it would have been better to wait till after surgery and the biopsy before a dose change. 

The CNS has limits to its stress level and then it says no more. Surgery was just 2 weeks ago.... please give yourself time. You are doing great.

Sorry about your mom... it's hard being the only one caring for her. But you have to put the oxygen mask on yourself first. Her needs are being cared for thankfully. 

❤️🙏

 

Thank you, @LostinCanada. I need to make sure that I don't make dose changes before stressful events that I know are coming up, but there also seem to be a lot of unexpected stressors right now, besides the ones I mentioned. But I guess that's just life... With my mother, I kind of learned the hard way that I need to look after myself first. It can be really hard to do. 

 

 Hope you're doing well with your recent dose change.