Unfortunately you wake up early so you go to bed earlier, I suppose that doesn't help am trying to push and go to bed a but later though I suspect I will still wake up at 4.00 knowing how this works ! 

Fairly decent day today once the morning settled. The sunny days help . Now though its as if someone has just shut my brain off just feel empty .My husband talks to me and I just stare back like I can't be bothered to talk but just sit and state. Used to the anxiety ( well not quite ) this is different 🤔 

6 hours ago, Beehive said:

Fairly decent day today once the morning settled. The sunny days help . Now though its as if someone has just shut my brain off just feel empty .My husband talks to me and I just stare back like I can't be bothered to talk but just sit and state. Used to the anxiety ( well not quite ) this is different 🤔 

You have a decent day, it's wonderful! I know these flips, it will go as it comes, don't get nervous about it.

You're probably sleeping now, I should be too but I'm not.. hopefully your sleep is deep and peaceful..

Edited March 26Mar 26 by Fullhealing

Hello @Beehive, 

 

We are experiencing similar symptoms after reading your thread. The shaky legs, tight chest ( burning for me), rumination, over thinking. 

 

I wouldn't have thought to dilute that way to get the dose. I can't work the math out for that. 

 

Anyway I hope you settle soon. I so wish for a late afternoon / evening reprieve like you are having. I was having them. 

 

You are doing really well with your taper. 

 

Welcome to the forum. 🩷

10 hours ago, Beehive said:

Fairly decent day today once the morning settled. The sunny days help . Now though its as if someone has just shut my brain off just feel empty .My husband talks to me and I just stare back like I can't be bothered to talk but just sit and state. Used to the anxiety ( well not quite ) this is different 🤔 

Ah the unpredictable waves and windows of wd! You do great. Such a good attitude to it all. Hope things stabilise soon for you. Can be quite rollercoaster all this. 

Back to the cortisol wake up call ,you would think we would get used to it .Tight chest shaky legs feelings of doom and gloom like this is never going to go away ,wanting to pave, awful feeling.  I.know it will go away and I will feel better late, iys just so hard at the time . @Traceythank you for popping in ,really hope you find some peace soon 🤗

Ok why do I do this ...This isn't new maybe that's it ! ..I know what it is I know it will stop but I just go into a spiral of catastrophic thoughts and make myself worse .! Shaking heart racing trying to take a breath ! 

14 minutes ago, Beehive said:

Ok why do I do this ...This isn't new maybe that's it ! ..I know what it is I know it will stop but I just go into a spiral of catastrophic thoughts and make myself worse .! Shaking heart racing trying to take a breath ! 

We all get sucked in there from time to time, don't be hard on yourself, you're doing great!!

I really hope it eases up for you as the day goes on.

Thank.you ,I.know I'm my own worst enemy .How are you doing insee you had a rough night .

13 minutes ago, Beehive said:

Thank.you ,I.know I'm my own worst enemy .How are you doing insee you had a rough night .

Don't forget the other side as well, your own biggest supporter!

It's normal, we all move in this range all the time but the chemicals tilt us towards the negative..

You're coping really really good.

Thank you 😊

Just for my record I really have let the second fear control me this morning shakes still there but the ongoing thoughts feels like my head is in a spin and my focus is blurry . Note to self don't do this again it doesn't help you 😊 you will come through this you always do .

22 hours ago, Beehive said:

Back to the cortisol wake up call ,you would think we would get used to it .Tight chest shaky legs feelings of doom and gloom like this is never going to go away ,wanting to pave, awful feeling.  I.know it will go away and I will feel better late, iys just so hard at the time . @Traceythank you for popping in ,really hope you find some peace soon 🤗

Exactly what i get. The doom and gloom is so hard to shake at the time even though rationally I self talk. It just becomes all encompassing . 

Is it the fear/ flight/ freeze primitive brain taking over ? Prefrontal cortex just goes offline it seems. Yes I get the never going away as well. 😢.

 

Hope you get a reprieve soon Beehive. 

 

Tracey 
 

On 3/26/2026 at 4:37 AM, Beehive said:

Fairly decent day today once the morning settled. The sunny days help . Now though its as if someone has just shut my brain off just feel empty .My husband talks to me and I just stare back like I can't be bothered to talk but just sit and state. Used to the anxiety ( well not quite ) this is different 🤔 

I get the brain empty, dazed thing too after. come out of a rough intense wave. My brain needs to rest from the shock it seems. 

 

Tracey 

Thanks @Traceyfor popping in ,definitely an amygdala hijack . Shuts the pre frontel cortex down so not running on rationality just emotions!! We know this but its so strong.  

22 hours ago, Beehive said:

you will come through this you always do .

Indeed you will! @Beehive wishing you an easy day as possible today! 🤗 

I will hold my hand up and say yesterday was tough it was all day . Partly to blame for buying into it .Blood pressure skyrocketed and my pulse.  I caved and took 2mg diazepam the first one in many years .Did it help yes immediate effect of calming me down felt a bit spaced out which can happen .Slept OK last night popped awake at 02.00 am felt great then at about 05.30 started feeling the usual managed to contain it then stayed in bed until 08.00 as I didn't want to get out ! Feel great now like nothing ever happened not sure how long the effects of diazepam lasts so holding my breath a bit . Word of warning though this worked for me and it was my choice ,I wouldn't encourage anyone else to do it 🤗

13 minutes ago, Beehive said:

I will hold my hand up and say yesterday was tough it was all day . Partly to blame for buying into it .Blood pressure skyrocketed and my pulse.  I caved and took 2mg diazepam the first one in many years .Did it help yes immediate effect of calming me down felt a bit spaced out which can happen .Slept OK last night popped awake at 02.00 am felt great then at about 05.30 started feeling the usual managed to contain it then stayed in bed until 08.00 as I didn't want to get out ! Feel great now like nothing ever happened not sure how long the effects of diazepam lasts so holding my breath a bit . Word of warning though this worked for me and it was my choice ,I wouldn't encourage anyone else to do it 🤗

yeah I mean it was your choice so yeah, we still have free will.

another thing tho, I would say it's better to take something like chamomile tea other than a benzo, cause it has a somewhat similar effect but has way less potential to do long lasting damage (I wouldn't recommend taking it daily for everyone, but still point stands)

@Lighty Thank you for your comment ,it's not something I do often as these tablets I have had for quite a few years 😁 and thank you for the tip . I actually do drink chamomile tea my first drink of the day 😊..hope you are doing ok 🤗

43 minutes ago, Beehive said:

I will hold my hand up and say yesterday was tough it was all day . Partly to blame for buying into it .Blood pressure skyrocketed and my pulse.  I caved and took 2mg diazepam the first one in many years .Did it help yes immediate effect of calming me down felt a bit spaced out which can happen .Slept OK last night popped awake at 02.00 am felt great then at about 05.30 started feeling the usual managed to contain it then stayed in bed until 08.00 as I didn't want to get out ! Feel great now like nothing ever happened not sure how long the effects of diazepam lasts so holding my breath a bit . Word of warning though this worked for me and it was my choice ,I wouldn't encourage anyone else to do it 🤗

Really sorry for a tough day yesterday @Beehive not a word about the benzos, I'm sure you know the dangers and with a high degree of caution! very glad you found relief and hope it lasts eventually without comical aids, that's the goal for all of us.

Keep fighting hard, you're doing great, eventually we'll get to live completely clean life.

I believe we will the determination and strength of people on this forum is immeasurable. I hope you find reprieve from your neck and head tension 🤗

@Lighty Not sure of this is your area of expertise I recall reading a comment about sert occupancy it may have been yourself.  Would you know how much SERT occupancy there still is on my Sertraline dose of 2.27 mg thanks in advance ..

@Beehive This is very much an estimate and not 100% accurate, so take it with a grain of salt.

According to Maudsley's Deprescribing Guidelines it should be between 21.8-19.4% Sert occupancy. 

Thank you for your quick response , hope you are doing ok 

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