32 minutes ago, DCod said:

I know I have a lot of questions right now. I appreciate the responses. being active is really important to me, biking , running, strength training. With switch overs I’m still good to to all that correct?

I think it’s great you can want/can keep up these activities. Some people do suffer with exercise intolerance, I haven’t really, just listen to your body it knows best.

56 minutes ago, DCod said:

Wondering if I’m allergic of the new med cause of the intense tingling/pins and needles symptoms and overall mood being down?

It’s not allergic probably it’s likely these are kinda symptoms of the switch if they coincide.

I need to keep taking certain things and vitamins like I’ve been taking prior to the switch over. Natto, bromelan, (for long covid) vitamin c, omega 3s, creatine. Usually I tolerate all these well. Seeing what you think about taking them while things stabilize?

4 minutes ago, DCod said:

I need to keep taking certain things and vitamins like I’ve been taking prior to the switch over. Natto, bromelan, (for long covid) vitamin c, omega 3s, creatine. Usually I tolerate all these well. Seeing what you think about taking them while things stabilize?

I think if you have been tolerating them so far I’d keep taking them. I’m not a fan of suddenly stopping things anyway. If you wanted to stop any of these things, that your body is used to taking, in the future, I’d reduce one at a time rather than stop any of them cold turkey. Not a 10% taper or anything just ease them back so as to not shock the system.

Seem to be having a headache and some more nausea and anxiety this AM. On day 10 of being back on 3/4 old 1/4 new.

Had a rough one last night. Didn't sleep well. Had intense symptoms from 11-1 ish am. I seem to maybe be having more symptoms around when I take my nighttime buspar dose.

I also am wondering if this is real hard bc I have long covid. But I’m more just concerned that I seem to be having a bit more symptoms 11 days out rather than 4 or 5 days out.

34 minutes ago, DCod said:

Had a rough one last night. Didn't sleep well. Had intense symptoms from 11-1 ish am. I seem to maybe be having more symptoms around when I take my nighttime buspar dose.

I’m sorry to hear.

I suspect it’s coincidence the timing with your dose. I think it unlikely your having issues with that and the crossover at the same time.

35 minutes ago, DCod said:

I also am wondering if this is real hard bc I have long covid. But I’m more just concerned that I seem to be having a bit more symptoms 11 days out rather than 4 or 5 days out.

Covid can mess with our nervous systems for sure. I’m suspicious it’s caused some of my worsening.

I think the main thing is we don’t know and it’s best to try to accept. I know 10-11 days weeks a long time but it can take time for things to settle down once the nervous system is upset.

Hello. Any thoughts on how switching back to the regular could pan out? Should I wait some till things are more settle, or just switch now cause it was my original?

12 hours ago, DCod said:

Hello. Any thoughts on how switching back to the regular could pan out? Should I wait some till things are more settle, or just switch now cause it was my original?

Hey if things are not working out still I would personally switch back to your original drug. Might not resolve everything straight away but it sounds like to me you are not getting on well with the new format.

Symptoms are settling some. There not as intense but, I’m still doing the 3/4old1/4 new, which over been doing for 18 days and I found viibryd and am going to stockpile for the future so I don’t need to switch now. So switch back then is what u think?

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I wouldn’t think I would need symptoms to completely settle before I switch back to the original viibryd. I’ve been at this for almost a month and had to stop the 50/50 4 days in and go back a step which is where I’m at. I’m concerned if I’m switching back before I’ve completely settled at this spot. Could that destabilize me more? Maybe that doesn’t matter as much bc my body was originally used to the brand?

@DCod It is completely your call. I actually think if you are starting to stablise at this point perhaps consider hanging here for a minute and then continue your crossover, if that is ultimately what you want/need to do. I don't think you need to wait to stablise to move back, the only reason to move back is if you don't think you will/can stablise to the new drug imo.

I was able to get 60 tablets of viibryd to stockpile and I can continue (hopefully) getting my script filled for now. I’m gonna slowly add to the 60 so I can hold for 4-6 weeks at each stage in the future. but I don’t need to do the crossover at this point cause I can get the med. so I’m gonna switch back. Maybe I try a different generic in the future or the longer holds hopefully help.

I’m a little concerned if my nervous system will just perceive it as another change? I changed back to the original brand tho am. Just feeling a bit nervous about. I didn’t feel like it made sense to stay on that first level of the crossover if I was still having symptoms. U know of anyone who has dealt with this situation?

5 hours ago, DCod said:

I changed back to the original brand tho am.

Ok hope things settle now you are back on a full Og dose.

5 hours ago, DCod said:

I’m a little concerned if my nervous system will just perceive it as another change?

It might, but if your body is not settling to the generic then this might be your best move.

14 hours ago, DCod said:

I’m gonna slowly add to the 60 so I can hold for 4-6 weeks at each stage in the future. but I don’t need to do the crossover at this point cause I can get the med.

It is such a shame that people get boxed into having to make these switches. Remind me, they are discontinuing the brand name drug? This is why you are switching?

You could of course try a different generic, move more slowly over and hold longer each time, as you suggested. Hopefully this will help.

5 hours ago, DCod said:

U know of anyone who has dealt with this situation?

Lots of people react to a swicth of brand and even react going from tablet to DIY liquid made from the same tablet! Wild I know!

I have seen some have troubles and switch back, those are normally people moving from tablet to liquid who have already sensitive nervous systems. I have also seem alot of people try to hard switch and have real issues doing so. You are not alone.

Hopefully now you have switched back things will settle down. I would not worry if things are bumpy still for a bit. I would treat this switch back like a 'cut' and hold and wait to stablise.

I was having issues finding viibryd brand. But have been able to find a pharmacy that gets it.

My symptoms were settling ‘some’ Such as they weren’t as intense, on the 3/4 old 1/4 new, but I don’t want to do the full switch right now because I can get viibryd. Im just worried if my nervous system will be destabalized b/c I didn’t fully settle before I switched back to my original. Could this make it go more destabalized or will this, over some days stabslize me more? Even with my nervous system settling some, it was the right call to switch back to the original correct to slowly ease the symptoms?

Sorry. Just pretty worried. Should I have stayed longer and settled more before going back?

39 minutes ago, DCod said:

Sorry. Just pretty worried. Should I have stayed longer and settled more before going back?

I think you did the right thing.

My symptoms were settling ‘some’ Such as they weren’t as intense, on the 3/4 old 1/4 new, but I don’t want to do the full switch right now because I can get viibryd. Im just worried if my nervous system will be destabalized b/c I didn’t fully settle before I switched back to my original. Could this make it go more destabalized or will this, over some days stabslize me more? Even with my nervous system settling some, it was the right call to switch back to the original correct to slowly ease the symptoms?

Didn’t really sleep last night. Having some anxiety and a little sweety. Is it normal to have these. quick of symptoms from switching back? Just worried is all. Does that mean it will be worse by day 4 or not necessarily?

22 hours ago, DCod said:

My symptoms were settling ‘some’ Such as they weren’t as intense, on the 3/4 old 1/4 new, but I don’t want to do the full switch right now because I can get viibryd. Im just worried if my nervous system will be destabalized b/c I didn’t fully settle before I switched back to my original. Could this make it go more destabalized or will this, over some days stabslize me more? Even with my nervous system settling some, it was the right call to switch back to the original correct to slowly ease the symptoms?

I think you made what you felt was the right call, and that choice has been made now. Try to not get stuck in a thought loop over it. The correct move was made and you need to let things settle now. Worrying adds stress and makes things worse. Try to be present in the day and not look back in the past Acceptance is key - Why does acceptance feel impossible?

18 hours ago, DCod said:

Didn’t really sleep last night. Having some anxiety and a little sweety. Is it normal to have these. quick of symptoms from switching back? Just worried is all. Does that mean it will be worse by day 4 or not necessarily?

You or we can't know the path of stablising from here. Just take each day as it comes, try and look into coping skills such as distraction and acceptance, and understand this is not a linear process and stablising involves sometimes being a bit worse, windows and waves. You'll be ok :)

I really appreciate it. Thank you

Hey

I’m a real active guy. I need to be active for my mood and also back pain. So weightlifting and cardio help me a lot. I’m concerned it I’m going to be able to exercise Intensely while I taper. What’s the gerneral consensus on this?

DC

7 minutes ago, DCod said:

I’m a real active guy. I need to be active for my mood and also back pain. So weightlifting and cardio help me a lot. I’m concerned it I’m going to be able to exercise Intensely while I taper. What’s the gerneral consensus on this?

Hey @DCod. My understanding is that it just depends on the person. Some people find that intense exercise makes them worse, and some have physical symptoms that prevent them from exercising to one extent or another. Others are able to stay very active throughout.

I’m also a pretty active person — I do a lot of rock climbing and weight training, and I cycle and hike with our dogs. So far I’ve mostly been able to keep up with these activities. I’ve had the odd day here or there where I’ve had a migraine or something and had to skip a workout, but that’s about it (knock wood). I definitely haven’t found that intense exercise has any negative impacts for me.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for getting back Sarah

I think you’re right, it’s seems very individual. Best.