January 9Jan 9 Hi, my history is on SA under the same username Vonnegutjunky. Here is the link to my SA Blog I’m still tapering, have great days and really bad days. I’m gaining in there and trying to remain functional as I taper. I had an adverse reaction to my reinstatement and have been tapering since. Appreciate that this forum exists. Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
January 9Jan 9 Welcome to the forum, Vonnegutjunkie. I am the Recovery Assistant Bot and I am here to post some information for you whilst we await replies from other members. This is a volunteer-run, community forum aimed at helping those who are experiencing difficulties with psychiatric medications. If you are experiencing an adverse reaction to them, withdrawal difficulties or are injured by them, we are very sorry to hear this and will do what we can to help you. While we are waiting for human members to reply, there are some things you can do that will help you get the most out of this forum whilst you await further support. Please familiarise yourself with the forum rules and the disclaimer located here: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/misc.php?action=help Please update your signature. This will allow members to see some basic information about your drug history and situation so that they may help you best. Information on how to do this is located in the guides linked above, but here is a direct link: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/misc.php?action=help&hid=8 Once this is done, future posts made by you will have this signature turned on by default. If you have migrated here from "SurvivingAntidepressants" feel free to post a link to your old thread in this one, or include it in your signature. We hope that you will find this forum helpful. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
January 9Jan 9 Hi Vonnegutjunkie Welcome to the forum! It's great to have you here! I have copied over you SA Blog title and linked your SA blog above for you. Could I get you to update the following when you get a second? -Signature with drug history -DOB (You can select to show age only) I hope you find the community helpful in your journey. Chippy I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
January 9Jan 9 Thank you for joining. I hope that this places provides a similar kind of support to what you have been getting in the past and that the rest of your taper goes ok. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
January 17Jan 17 Author Hey thanks, I put my signature in my about me section, I couldn’t find even after serving for the term signature how to exactly do it- so I hope I did it right. Please advise if it’s not populating - thanks Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
January 18Jan 18 5 hours ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: Hey thanks, I put my signature in my about me section, I couldn’t find even after serving for the term signature how to exactly do it- so I hope I did it right. Please advise if it’s not populating - thanks Hey Thanks for that. No problems. There a couple of places to find the signature field. One of them is right below the about me field. I’ve moved your drug history into there for you. Chippy I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
January 20Jan 20 Author Thanks so much 🙂 Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 1Feb 1 Author Just posting an update. First - thanks for the site. Like so much. The admins and mods just don’t even know. I looked for this intro that started via my profile (content I started) but it wouldn’t populate in there? Alas, I found it doing a general search. i jsut want to say I’ve been tapering very slowly, you can see via my signature. I went from 5.5 to 5.2 mg this past year I actually think those numbers are a bit off, but my point is, I got to 5.2mg this past summer; and while I was functioning just fine, I noticed my anxiety increased- I think ok I can deal with anxiety and do things I want to do anyway; well I had a work incident and after that, I hit a wall; the hyper scanning for danger is untenable. I mean whoa. I hit a huge wave and have been here for 2 mos. I slow tapered over years and years, and I was fine, and bam, a wave. Does anyone understand why that is? Could it be that as you slow taper your able to maintain some sort of stability until your body realizes the “crutch” is no longer there when you need it? im bringing this up becuase i will also see people do what would be considered a slow taper and feel fine and months, we’re talking 6-9mos out they are hit. any ideas why this happens? Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 1Feb 1 6 hours ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: Just posting an update. First - thanks for the site. Like so much. The admins and mods just don’t even know. I looked for this intro that started via my profile (content I started) but it wouldn’t populate in there? Alas, I found it doing a general search. i jsut want to say I’ve been tapering very slowly, you can see via my signature. I went from 5.5 to 5.2 mg this past year I actually think those numbers are a bit off, but my point is, I got to 5.2mg this past summer; and while I was functioning just fine, I noticed my anxiety increased- I think ok I can deal with anxiety and do things I want to do anyway; well I had a work incident and after that, I hit a wall; the hyper scanning for danger is untenable. I mean whoa. I hit a huge wave and have been here for 2 mos. I slow tapered over years and years, and I was fine, and bam, a wave. Does anyone understand why that is? Could it be that as you slow taper your able to maintain some sort of stability until your body realizes the “crutch” is no longer there when you need it? im bringing this up becuase i will also see people do what would be considered a slow taper and feel fine and months, we’re talking 6-9mos out they are hit. any ideas why this happens? Glad you like the site. It's common to get waves of symptoms during a taper. The lower you go the more difficult the taper can be. Added work stress may have also not helped this. It's always best to be stable as you can in your life whilst you taper. It's not an easy thing you are doing. If you are now having WD symptoms from your taper you should consider in my opinion a hold to allow your brain to catch up before continuing your taper. Chippy I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 1Feb 1 5 hours ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: any ideas why this happens? The unfortunate truth is that in peer support groups for these drugs, all we really have is the combined experiences of other harmed patients. In terms of objective science, there's very little. Hopefully with some holding and stability this calms down in time. As far as symptoms, is it anxiety and a sort of "fight or flight" danger response? Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
February 1Feb 1 7 hours ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: Just posting an update. First - thanks for the site. Like so much. The admins and mods just don’t even know. I looked for this intro that started via my profile (content I started) but it wouldn’t populate in there? Alas, I found it doing a general search. i jsut want to say I’ve been tapering very slowly, you can see via my signature. I went from 5.5 to 5.2 mg this past year I actually think those numbers are a bit off, but my point is, I got to 5.2mg this past summer; and while I was functioning just fine, I noticed my anxiety increased- I think ok I can deal with anxiety and do things I want to do anyway; well I had a work incident and after that, I hit a wall; the hyper scanning for danger is untenable. I mean whoa. I hit a huge wave and have been here for 2 mos. I slow tapered over years and years, and I was fine, and bam, a wave. Does anyone understand why that is? Could it be that as you slow taper your able to maintain some sort of stability until your body realizes the “crutch” is no longer there when you need it? im bringing this up becuase i will also see people do what would be considered a slow taper and feel fine and months, we’re talking 6-9mos out they are hit. any ideas why this happens? Hey, we're in the same paxil boat unfortunately, awful awful drug. Besides the fact that the process is not linear and flare-ups can pop up even after long periods of stabilization, let alone after stressful factors as you mentioned you've been through so it's understandable, our system is so sensitive and unpredictable now. Also as I gathered and staring to experience hard myself, the lower the dose, the harder it gets.. I'm so sorry you're going through such a long wave, it will fade just hopefully quickly. Hang in there, you are not alone, sending you healing and positive vibes. 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
February 2Feb 2 Author Thank you so much full healing, please feel open to private message if you ever want to, I think taper buddies can be helpful Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 2Feb 2 Author 20 hours ago, Luke said: The unfortunate truth is that in peer support groups for these drugs, all we really have is the combined experiences of other harmed patients. In terms of objective science, there's very little. Hopefully with some holding and stability this calms down in time. As far as symptoms, is it anxiety and a sort of "fight or flight" danger response? Yes it’s like a delusional fear of literally everything Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 2Feb 2 Author 23 hours ago, Chippy said: Glad you like the site. It's common to get waves of symptoms during a taper. The lower you go the more difficult the taper can be. Added work stress may have also not helped this. It's always best to be stable as you can in your life whilst you taper. It's not an easy thing you are doing. If you are now having WD symptoms from your taper you should consider in my opinion a hold to allow your brain to catch up before continuing your taper. Chippy Thanks chippy. I hold, I do very long holds. I’ve held for almost 2 years in this taper. It’s taken me 5 years to taper from 10mg to 5.2mg. I mean I don’t think I could be going any slower. I am going to hold here, just seems like people can taper relatively easy up to a certain point and then they are hit. It’s quite distressing to be doing everything “right” only to end up so severely debilitated. Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 2Feb 2 4 minutes ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: am going to hold here, just seems like people can taper relatively easy up to a certain point and then they are hit. It’s quite distressing to be doing everything “right” only to end up so severely debilitated. Yes I agree. Those lower doses are the hard part. I know and I’m sorry to hear this. Unfortunately there are no absolutes here just best practices and as you know they don’t guarantee a perfect result. Everyone is so different. As you say you’re doing everything right and it’s all you can do. Your body knows how to do this just have to be gentle with it just as you are. I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 6Feb 6 On 2/1/2026 at 8:44 PM, Vonnegutjunkie said: don’t think I could be going any slower Hey @Vonnegutjunkie I am here for you. I am moving at a snail's pace right with you. 🐌🐌🐌 I think you are going faster than me....🤣 This drug is a beast. ❤️🙏 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA. Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg 9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
February 7Feb 7 Author Thank you lost, it really is. Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 20Feb 20 Author So I read this about Paxil today “Once you reach under 5 mg, the effect of paroxetine on the CYP2D6 can lessen the inhibition of CYP2D6 causing the metabolism of paroxetine to accelerate. This may affect the drug in the plasma level to drop more drastically adding to a possible increase in withdrawal symptoms. If this occurs, it may be necessary to adjust by tapering less than 10% every 28 days and/or hold longer between drops in dosage.” and that’s exactly what happened to me, I’m sure of it. I am sitting at 5.2 mg I lost 30lbs and during that my wd started ramping up until I’m where I am now and really really scared to death. it’s every day all day and night anxiety, incredible intrusive thoughts that come with terror and panic and visual issues. I can’t work right now and I’m so angry I have tapered so carefully just to have this happen to me anyway. I don’t know if I stay here and wait it out, uodose, just to have this happen again at a later time, or try to cross taper to some other med? I am reluctant to try another med as I reacted badly to this one during my reinstatement after my failed taper many years ago, it gave me akathisia - I want to cry, I don’t know what to do and I feel stuck and scared. Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 20Feb 20 Hey @Vonnegutjunkie Your dose is sitting you right at the beginning of the crazy curve downward. Then on top of it, this drug makes your body think you are tapering faster. Definitely just sit with this dose and let your body get comfortable with it. As you saw, paroxetine hits so many receptors, transmitters, enzymes that no other drug could fill in the gaps if you did a bridge. I've heard after 2 mg it gets much easier....I am hoping even sooner. One day at a time.... what you are feeling will resolve. Keep making your environment one of healing. ❤️🙏 I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA. Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg 9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
February 20Feb 20 Author Thank you for the reply, it’s been 7 mos since I’ve been down to 5.2 and I am now getting hit really bad with these symptoms. And I have 0 coping skills, because the drug was the coping skill. Now I’m kinda lost, even seeing a therapist and she’s not really helpful in this. I read about the tapping an cns calming techniques in the other thread and I’m trying to do them with little patience. Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 20Feb 20 @Vonnegutjunkie there are a few things in here https://antidepressantrecovery.org/forum/14-symptoms-coping-strategies/ I have also found that ChatGPT can help give suggestions for coping with withdrawal symptoms. Distraction is very helpful for me. I read a lot of fiction novels…easy going calm stuff that is easy to understand and doesn’t tax my brain. Most importantly, keep telling yourself this will pass, you will e okay. I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA. Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg 9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
February 20Feb 20 Oh I am so sorry @Vonnegutjunkie. This must be really hard and concerning when, as you say, you've done everything right. Yes, this Paxil is nasty stuff. I've been on it for 32 years and am down to 15.4 mg. The symptoms are starting to show up. I lazed around most of the day, as I had zero energy to do anything. I would do something for 10 minutes, then want to sit down again. I have been through absolute hell withdrawals in the past and can really feel your pain. It will take me years to get to where you are in your journey. I will keep up on your progress, hoping and praying for your speedy and complete healing. This path is so unpredictable. Tomorrow, you could be ready to tackle the world again. I think this quote has been attributed to John Lennon: Everything will be all right in the end. So if it is not all right, it is not yet the end. Be kind to yourself, keep in touch with the folks here who have your back, and persevere. I am praying earnestly for you. xxoo Jamie ❣️🙏🌻 Sept 1993 Began paroxetine 20 mg for anxiety and depression- worked like a charm. 1st taper - Aug 1995 tapered over 3 weeks before getting pregnant- great at first, crashed at one month. White knuckled it through 2 miscarriages. Spring 1996 (?) Reinstated paroxetine 20 mg. 2nd taper- Spring 2008 tapered off paroxetine over 4 months. Summer 2008 crashed horribly, nearly incapacitated by WD; Summer 2008-Summer 2009 tried 4 different ADs, none as effective as paroxetine. Summer 2009 Reinstated 20 mg paroxetine, not as effective as previously. 3rd taper- Jun 19, 2019 began 10 mg paroxetine, 10 mg fluoxetine for one week. Jun 26 20 mg fluoxetine, 5 mg paroxetine for one week. Jul 3- 20 mg fluoxetine + lorazepam (0.5 mg) as needed up to 2x/day. Aug 12- 30 mg fluox; Sept 3- .5 mg clonazepam daily; end lorazepam; Sept 5- 40 mg fluox; End of 2019- returned to paroxetine 20 mg/day most of the year, 30mg/day in the winter. BEGIN 4th TAPER ATTEMPT: Jul 13 2025- 30 -> 25 mg; 10 Sept -> 22.5mg; 3 Oct -> 20 mg; 10 Oct -> hold 2 weeks; 2 Nov -> 19.5 mg; 9 Nov -> 19 mg; 16 Nov -> hold 1 week; 22 Nov -> 18.6 mg; 30 Nov -> 18.2 mg; 7 Dec -> hold 1 week; 14 Dec -> 17.8 mg; 21 Dec -> 17.5 mg; 28 Dec -> 17.1 mg; 4 Jan 2026 -> 16.7 mg -> hold 2 weeks ; 28 Jan -> 16.4 mg; 1 Feb -> 16.0 mg; 8 Feb -> 15.7 mg; 15 Feb -> hold 2 weeks; 1 Mar -> 15.5 mg; 8 Mar -> 15.2 mg; 15 Mar -> hold; 5 Apr -> 14.9. Supplements: Vit D, Magesium L-threonate, Vit C, Zinc, Melatonin, Multivitamin
February 20Feb 20 1 hour ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: So I read this about Paxil today “Once you reach under 5 mg, the effect of paroxetine on the CYP2D6 can lessen the inhibition of CYP2D6 causing the metabolism of paroxetine to accelerate. This may affect the drug in the plasma level to drop more drastically adding to a possible increase in withdrawal symptoms. If this occurs, it may be necessary to adjust by tapering less than 10% every 28 days and/or hold longer between drops in dosage.” and that’s exactly what happened to me, I’m sure of it. I am sitting at 5.2 mg I lost 30lbs and during that my wd started ramping up until I’m where I am now and really really scared to death. it’s every day all day and night anxiety, incredible intrusive thoughts that come with terror and panic and visual issues. I can’t work right now and I’m so angry I have tapered so carefully just to have this happen to me anyway. I don’t know if I stay here and wait it out, uodose, just to have this happen again at a later time, or try to cross taper to some other med? I am reluctant to try another med as I reacted badly to this one during my reinstatement after my failed taper many years ago, it gave me akathisia - I want to cry, I don’t know what to do and I feel stuck and scared. I'm so sorry @Vonnegutjunkie I'm one on one with you! the lower doses it all goes completely crazy, so true and horrifying. When I got halfway I tried to bridge with Prozac (longer half-life) more tolerable so they say and it ended badly, I also tried Seroquel for a while which made me hallucinate and I decided that enough, any other drug could trigger who knows what and it's not a risk I think is worth taking especially since the system is so hyper sensitive. I'm with you on the coping skills too, it seems like they all disappeared along with my identity but I think it's a collective experience for all those who are quitting, when neurons are flying everywhere it's impossible to think logically and even though it feels like forever it will get better as the system heals, you will get yourself back, you haven't lost it, it just under thick layer of symptoms now. Paxil is a really is a brutal beast but we'll get through it, keep holding and stay strong. Edited February 20Feb 20 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
February 20Feb 20 Author 4 hours ago, LostinCanada said: @Vonnegutjunkie there are a few things in here https://antidepressantrecovery.org/forum/14-symptoms-coping-strategies/ I have also found that ChatGPT can help give suggestions for coping with withdrawal symptoms. Distraction is very helpful for me. I read a lot of fiction novels…easy going calm stuff that is easy to understand and doesn’t tax my brain. Most importantly, keep telling yourself this will pass, you will e okay. What book are you reading now? Or any suggestions would be good! Paxil (Only drug ever): 2006: 20mg | 2008: 10mg May 2014–Nov 2014: Tapered 10mg to 5mg (alternating days)/ Jan 2015–May 2015: Updosed 10mg -> 20mg (adverse reaction the day after 20mg, was told to “wait and see”) Sept 2015–Aug 2017: Tapered 20mg to 10mg Aug 2017–Mar 2018: 9mg -> 8mg -> 7.8mg -> 7.75mg /Sept 2018–Jan 2019: 7.36mg -> 7.2mg -> 7mg (Jan '19: Crash) /Jan 2019: 0.25mg Ativan (once); 2.5mL Child Benadryl (once) / Feb 2019–Jan 2023: Reinstated 7.28mg; Mar '19: 7.36mg (Long Hold) /Jan 2023–June 2023: 7.12mg -> 6.88mg -> 6.60mg -> 6.50mg / June 2023–Apr 2025: Tapered 6.5mg to 5.5mg / Apr 2025–Dec 2025: 5.4mg -> 5.2mg No other meds/drugs/supps/alcohol. Ativan/Benadryl used once only (2019).
February 20Feb 20 7 hours ago, Vonnegutjunkie said: any suggestions would be good! Depending on your brain fog...I have done Little House on the Prairie when I can barely think...right now I am doing clean Regency romances...I have a Kindle prescription...I just finished the Donovan's Series by Martha Keyes.❤️ I am not a medical professional. My comments are based on my personal experience and information on SA. Paroxetine-2002 onward-20mg/ Citalopram-2007-20 mg-straight switch from paroxetine-back to paroxetine after a month/ Sertraline -25 mg-Dec 2016- given for a month instead of paroxetine (doctor mistake) Oxazepam -10 mg-2016-twice weekly for a couple months for sleep/ Zopiclone -3.75-7.5mg-2020-2022-once a week for sleep/Paroxetine -20 yr+/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ Prozac-10mg August 24-29 2022/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.11.28-2022.12.04/10mg-Dec 5&6/22/ Prozac-10mg-Dec 8&9/22/Paroxetine -5mg-2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 TAPER-Paroxetine-2023-Jul 2-4.9mg/ Jul 21-4.8mg/Jul 28-4.73mg/Aug 4-4.65mg /Sep 21-4.58 mg/Oct 27-4.56 mg/Dec 5-4.54 mg/2024-Jan 2-4.52 mg/Jan 9-4.51 mg/Jan 17-4.49 mg/Jan 26-4.47mg/Feb 6-4.46mg/Feb 19-4.44mg /Apr 4-4.43mg/Apr 28-4.4 mg/May 5-4.39 mg/May 19-4.36 mg/Jul 2-4.34 mg/Jul 9-4.32mg/Jul 31-4.3 mg/Oct 1-4.29mg/Nov 27-4.25 mg/Dec 5-4.22mg/2025-Jan 5-4.17mg/Feb 2-4.1mg/Mar 7-4.07mg/Apr 23-4.04mg/May 23-4mg/Jun 22-3.99mg/Jun 30-3.95mg/Jul 18-3.92mg/Sep 25-3.9mg/2026-Mar 25-3.85mg 9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/75 mg DGL if needed for refux/150 mg calcium citrate/algae oil for omega 3/ginger 400 mg as needed for nausea "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15
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