1 minute ago, Billford81 said:

So what should I do? She told me I should rule out mental stuff even though I told her it wasnt mental and I dont want drugs

Nobody can make you take a med you don't want to take. If you've ruled out physical issues, its a matter of learning to handle the behavioral issues so you can relieve the physical symptoms. Have you looked into CBT or other coping strategies?

But I dont have behavioral issues, ıts all physical. I never had serious mental issues that cause physical harm.

I mean behavioral as in negative thoughts and ruminations. If there is no physical cause for your symptoms, then they may be rooted in anxious thought patterns. The brain can cause all sorts of physical symptoms. Deal with the negative thoughts and you should see a decrease in physical symptoms.

But I am ill all the time and I was a normal, cheerful person before I started having physical issues.

Just now, Billford81 said:

But I am ill all the time and I was a normal, cheerful person before I started having physical issues.

Then you need to ask yourself where the symptoms are coming from. If there is no physical cause, why do you feel ill all the time? If you think your doctor is missing something, you have every right to get other opinions. But your previous posts mentioned emotional issues. Many people on this forum experience physical issues because of their anxious thinking.

1 hour ago, mstimc60 said:

I mean behavioral as in negative thoughts and ruminations. If there is no physical cause for your symptoms, then they may be rooted in anxious thought patterns.

I think this isn’t the case for people with emotional blunting and anhedonia as they tend to a. Not ruminate and b. Don’t feel anxiety.

@Billford81 what physical symptoms do you experience? Did they start on the meds and in withdrawal? Or already prior to the meds ?

Most of them prior to meds, lack of balance, stomach ache came after the meds.

2 hours ago, mstimc60 said:

Many people on this forum experience physical issues because of their anxious thinking.

Sorry, @mstimc60 I have to disagree hard here. The physical symptoms of Withdrawal are, in my opinion, due to nervous system dysregulation due to faulty neurotransmitter signalling. I can't help but think that this advice might lead people to feel like WD should be more in their control, and feel like a failure when strategies like CBT don't work.

I can only speak for myself (trained in 2 therapy modalities and have completed yoga teacher training), that my symptoms are random, unpredictable, not in my control, and not modifiable by any cognitive, psychological or physical strategies.

Have you thought about whether it could be BPPV (ear crystals)? @Billford81

I’ve had that in the past…. Made me sooo dizzy. Did the Epley-manoeuvre and I recovered immediately.. just a suggestion!

Well it could be, I do have weirdness in my ears but I also have other unrelated things so it could one of illnnes out of several. I dont know how to talk to a doctor about that though, they dont listen to me anymore

Edited July 8Jul 8 by Billford81

8 hours ago, Billford81 said:

What to do when your general doctor is pushing psyc drugs?

Call him a jerk and pray that he will one day have his place in hell.

And advise him to try on himself for several weeks, and make him promise to give you some feedback at the end.

His reaction to this should be representative of many things.

What I mean by this is, above all, don’t be fooled. And look him/her in the eyes! Because I noticed that they tend to avoid looking when they feel helpless to help you, rather than just saying it. They might even be frustrated, as if it were your fault that they don’t know. Forget it in those cases. If possible, take several opinions.

Tell him that he has no right to steal even 1% of your current well-being with dangerous drugs. You have to speak plainly and clearly with these "people"; there is no mercy to have. You are not here for fake smiles, false reassurance, or a poisoned prescription. It is YOUR health that is at stake. You’re not here to play Mariol with that.

Make it clear what your current problems are and what you don’t want in order to "fix" them. It should be easy, since you know more about these drugs now.

You are young, protect yourself. I hope you will come across someone competent!

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@Billford81

You are wise to not take any more drugs.

Couple of things.

Anxiety can totally cause physical symptoms outside of WD. If you have had these prior to taking drugs and there was no physical cause for them, then likley they were manifestations of anxiety at that time. That does not mean you were broken however. You were and are just a human. These responses either physical or mental are not something that needs to be fix with a drug. Diet, exercise, counselling, life style changes, switch of job, adjusting time spent around toxic people are just some of the ways to help address this. THESE DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS!

Once harmed by one or more of these drugs, what I have said above becomes more complex. You can experience physical symptoms from WD 100%. They can be mental related in the same as above. So you may find what triggered you before triggers you more now, or more easily. You can also have new symptoms in WD not just worsening symptoms.

What was already there, and what was worsened by WD, and what was started by WD is down to you to decide.

Bottom line, it really it does not matter. Your nervous system has been made more sensitive and probably harmed by drugs. You need time. Good healthy diet. No more Psycho Active Substances at all. So don't drink. No Caffeine. Just clean living. Focus on keeping stress low. Perhaps some CBT or therapy would not hurt to try. Time is your friend. But there is absolutely nothing to fix here with drugs. :)

They say it gets worse before it gets better, I hope thats the case because I have feel the worst I have ever felt in Anhedonia

Hello @Billford81 ,

I am also suffering due to Escitalopram and I just opened the AR forum to read about other experiences with Anhedonia because it has been so unfair and so annoying to live so emotionally blank for this short while already. Sending you well wishes and a speedy recovery. You’re never alone.

You too @MourningDove.

Its kinda sad that "Anhedonia Gang" is close to a dozen in the forum now, so many of us suffering in nothingness so senselessly. I was doing well all things considered a couple of weeks ago but even then...It feels so weird to care so little about your loved ones, my mother has been staying at hospital for a couple day (thankfully nothing serious) and I dont miss her at all, when I visited her I just felt nothing she felt like a stranger.

10 minutes ago, Billford81 said:

You too @MourningDove.

Its kinda sad that "Anhedonia Gang" is close to a dozen in the forum now, so many of us suffering in nothingness so senselessly. I was doing well all things considered a couple of weeks ago but even then...It feels so weird to care so little about your loved ones, my mother has been staying at hospital for a couple day (thankfully nothing serious) and I dont miss her at all, when I visited her I just felt nothing she felt like a stranger.

I’m sorry to hear about your struggles and your mother’s hospital stay. I’m glad it’s nothing serious, and I want to extend some extra thankfulness towards the fact that I truly believe this horrible state is temporary for us. I also have some waves and windows where I feel okay-ish, only to go back to feeling little of anything towards things so important to me. I’ve attended a week long funeral service along with two immediate family medical emergencies that required hospitalization within the last month, and I was literally just so blank-faced through it all. It feels so nonhuman!