Thank you @Fullhealing

It is so comforting reading your reply. I need all the best wishes and compassion I can get.

Update 6 pm 22. Februar 

Since 18. February I was again flushed by a huge wave. It seems as if it has lasteded forever even though it so fare just has lasted 4 days.

I went to a good friend and had a big long hug and while I has a crying spell. It helped me to ground. I wasn't able to do it by my own, and I am blessed to have a friend like her. The anxiety with all it contains is atm in the backgrund. I try to distract myself from the fear that it will start again by writing here and help my husband a little making dinner. I will do some mindfull self-compassion this evening, if I can.

I didn't read your latest up-date, but I pray for you, and hope you too will keep on keeping on. 

45 minutes ago, Haa said:

Thank you @Fullhealing

It is so comforting reading your reply. I need all the best wishes and compassion I can get.

Update 6 pm 22. Februar 

Since 18. February I was again flushed by a huge wave. It seems as if it has lasteded forever even though it so fare just has lasted 4 days.

I went to a good friend and had a big long hug and while I has a crying spell. It helped me to ground. I wasn't able to do it by my own, and I am blessed to have a friend like her. The anxiety with all it contains is atm in the backgrund. I try to distract myself from the fear that it will start again by writing here and help my husband a little making dinner. I will do some mindfull self-compassion this evening, if I can.

I didn't read your latest up-date, but I pray for you, and hope you too will keep on keeping on. 

It's great that you're able to distract yourself @Haa withdrawal mind is so deceitful and brutal that it's hard not to get sucked into.

Keep doing what you can, that's enough, with self-compassion, I'll work on that too, I haven't been nice to myself lately.

Take good care 💞

Thank you @Chippy@LostinCanada@RachelSusan@Luke for your comments. Much appreciated.

 

I feel like, I am in a catch22, as I don't know, if I should go down in Sertraline. My psychiatrist and I now suspect, that I don't tolerate this higher dose of Sertraline. (I was on 75mg and up-dosed to 100mg 11.4.25 shortly after I crashed, and at the same time reinstaded Oxapax to 7,5mgx3, wich is the dosis I was on, when I started tapering i 2024.)

 

I am not stabile, which is the recommendation before starting tapering.

 

I am in WD no doubt.

Barely bearable symptoms of anxiety, crying spells, feeling as if I am not pressent but consumed by my psychical state. I must be active all the time / keeping me busy, tired, burning sensations in nose and mouth, no appetite, multiple neuro symptoms in legs and feet, pressure in chest. There is not an obvious pattern, besides it all subside around 10pm. The last few nights, I have been waking up every two hours, but I fall asleep again.

 

I have had windows, where I almost felt like myself. At a time I thought, I had turned a corner. But no.. 

 

The question is: Will I stabilise, if part of my symptoms are due to the up-dosis in Sertraline in combination with the too fast tapering Oxapax from august 2024. The up-dosing could add to the WD symptoms. This is what Brasmonkey mentioned in December. 

 

So what are your experiences:

Should I hold, or should I try to go a few more mg down in Sertraline. (We did reduce Sertraline slightly 100->95->91mg with no effect). And I don't know if this just added to the mess, I am in.

 

Pro-con, pro-con. My psychiatrist says as I often have heard here and in SA that it is mostly try and error. 

I know this is my decision. I would be grateful, if you would offer me your opinions. Thank you in advance. 🙏💕

 

18 minutes ago, Haa said:

Thank you @Chippy@LostinCanada@RachelSusan@Luke for your comments. Much appreciated.

 

I feel like, I am in a catch22, as I don't know, if I should go down in Sertraline. My psychiatrist and I now suspect, that I don't tolerate this higher dose of Sertraline. (I was on 75mg and up-dosed to 100mg 11.4.25 shortly after I crashed, and at the same time reinstaded Oxapax to 7,5mgx3, wich is the dosis I was on, when I started tapering i 2024.)

 

I am not stabile, which is the recommendation before starting tapering.

 

I am in WD no doubt.

Barely bearable symptoms of anxiety, crying spells, feeling as if I am not pressent but consumed by my psychical state. I must be active all the time / keeping me busy, tired, burning sensations in nose and mouth, no appetite, multiple neuro symptoms in legs and feet, pressure in chest. There is not an obvious pattern, besides it all subside around 10pm. The last few nights, I have been waking up every two hours, but I fall asleep again.

 

I have had windows, where I almost felt like myself. At a time I thought, I had turned a corner. But no.. 

 

The question is: Will I stabilise, if part of my symptoms are due to the up-dosis in Sertraline in combination with the too fast tapering Oxapax from august 2024. The up-dosing could add to the WD symptoms. This is what Brasmonkey mentioned in December. 

 

So what are your experiences:

Should I hold, or should I try to go a few more mg down in Sertraline. (We did reduce Sertraline slightly 100->95->91mg with no effect). And I don't know if this just added to the mess, I am in.

 

Pro-con, pro-con. My psychiatrist says as I often have heard here and in SA that it is mostly try and error. 

I know this is my decision. I would be grateful, if you would offer me your opinions. Thank you in advance. 🙏💕

 

Hi @Haa

 

Are you able to make your footer a little clearer for me by redoing it like this?

 

Could you write it like this in chronological order:

 

01 Jan 2025 Sertraline 100mg

01 Feb 2025 Sertraline 75mg

and so on……

 

Can you include all your drops for all drugs you’ve done as well of Oxazepam with dates for each drop?

 

Chippy

@Chippy

 

Hi Chippy

Thanks for reacting to my post.

 

Concerning dates: The early years and medications I don't remember the exact dates. But I can change the layout.

When you say in chronological order, do you mean I should start with the oldest dates and end with the recent medication?

 

Oxapax I have all drops with dates. Should I post the Oxapax taper in the footer as well?

Lyrica I have some dates

Sertraline I have as well

 

I'll do my best and get started.

 

 

 

Edited February 24Feb 24 by Haa
Forgot a question

32 minutes ago, Haa said:

@Chippy

 

Hi Chippy

Thanks for reacting to my post.

 

Concerning dates: The early years and medications I don't remember the exact dates. But I can change the layout.

When you say in chronological order, do you mean I should start with the oldest dates and end with the recent medication?

 

Oxapax I have all drops with dates. Should I post the Oxapax taper in the footer as well?

Lyrica I have some dates

Sertraline I have as well

 

I'll do my best and get started.

 

 

 

My pleasure. 
 

Just as much information as you can remember will be helpful. 
 

Yes in order so oldest first newest last. 
 

Thank you. Helps us so much to have all the info clear and complete and all in your footer. Don’t worry it it gets a bit long. We can worry about that later just put it all in there in the format I wrote above. 🙂

I remember those days of being consumed by the multiple Rx. It will get better, Haa. AR is a good place to be. It is difficult to tell you what you should do. Stabilizing is always the best option, and it can take a while. I need to stay functional for my family, work/income, and really myself too; although I tend to put others first at times. I have been tapering with large holds since 2021. I am not saying that this will be you. But I found some old dated notes from a meeting with my now retired psychiatrist--and I was very cautious given my history in the my whole story link. I have definitely made some mistakes of my own in more recent times but have learned. I know it feels horrible to be in wave. But if I were you, allow yourself to stabilize and then choose one Rx to deal with at a time.

Prayers for you 🙏🏼

Edited February 24Feb 24 by namastejen1

@Chippy Thank you

Its a bit difficult as it has been over so many years and so many different meds.

I think it will be a mess if I juggle all the dates and drops on the meds in the rows where I just have the years. 
So I was thinking that I’ll write the tapering of the 3 drugs recent tapering with the oldest dates first. 
I’ll post it here, so that you can tell me if this will work for you.

see you tomorrow.

Bed is calling 

2 hours ago, namastejen1 said:

I remember those days of being consumed by the multiple Rx. It will get better, Haa. AR is a good place to be. It is difficult to tell you what you should do. Stabilizing is always the best option, and it can take a while. I need to stay functional for my family, work/income, and really myself too; although I tend to put others first at times. I have been tapering with large holds since 2021. I am not saying that this will be you. But I found some old dated notes from a meeting with my now retired psychiatrist--and I was very cautious given my history in the my whole story link. I have definitely made some mistakes of my own in more recent times but have learned. I know it feels horrible to be in wave. But if I were you, allow yourself to stabilize and then choose one Rx to deal with at a time.

Prayers for you 🙏🏼

@namastejen1 Thank you so much for your reply and sharing your experiences. And thank you for supportive words. 
My concern is that if I was updosed in Sertralin to a point that I cant tolerate, what I experience now can partly be from adverse reaktion to the high dose, and that would requirer a down dosing in order to resolve that part of the problem. 
If this wasn’t the case I would wait out the WD symptoms from the too fast taper of Oxapax. But…. I dont know and I guess no one does. 🤯

Thats why it is so comforting being part of AR and hear others opinions and experiences. 
🙏💕💕

18 hours ago, Haa said:

Thank you @Chippy@LostinCanada@RachelSusan@Luke for your comments. Much appreciated.

 

I feel like, I am in a catch22, as I don't know, if I should go down in Sertraline. My psychiatrist and I now suspect, that I don't tolerate this higher dose of Sertraline. (I was on 75mg and up-dosed to 100mg 11.4.25 shortly after I crashed, and at the same time reinstaded Oxapax to 7,5mgx3, wich is the dosis I was on, when I started tapering i 2024.)

 

I am not stabile, which is the recommendation before starting tapering.

 

I am in WD no doubt.

Barely bearable symptoms of anxiety, crying spells, feeling as if I am not pressent but consumed by my psychical state. I must be active all the time / keeping me busy, tired, burning sensations in nose and mouth, no appetite, multiple neuro symptoms in legs and feet, pressure in chest. There is not an obvious pattern, besides it all subside around 10pm. The last few nights, I have been waking up every two hours, but I fall asleep again.

 

I have had windows, where I almost felt like myself. At a time I thought, I had turned a corner. But no.. 

 

The question is: Will I stabilise, if part of my symptoms are due to the up-dosis in Sertraline in combination with the too fast tapering Oxapax from august 2024. The up-dosing could add to the WD symptoms. This is what Brasmonkey mentioned in December. 

 

So what are your experiences:

Should I hold, or should I try to go a few more mg down in Sertraline. (We did reduce Sertraline slightly 100->95->91mg with no effect). And I don't know if this just added to the mess, I am in.

 

Pro-con, pro-con. My psychiatrist says as I often have heard here and in SA that it is mostly try and error. 

I know this is my decision. I would be grateful, if you would offer me your opinions. Thank you in advance. 🙏💕

 

really sorry @Haa in a similar trap as you and I wish there was a definitive answer, as you wrote it's mostly trial and error, others' attempts won't necessarily indicate yours, so it's really tricky and complicated and all that's left is to try.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope it brings significant relief, I really really do.

Sorry, I wasn't of any help here..

Sending lots of strength your way, stay strong, you'll get through it 💞

Edited February 25Feb 25 by Fullhealing

@Haa sharing a success video of Joanna if your mind is up to it.

I met her a few months ago, we had a few sessions, she is wonderful and inspiring, she has been to hell and back and is now on the other side, living a fulfilling life.

In especially low moments, success stories are my first go-to, it usually manages to calm things down a bit and a bit is a lot 🫂

https://youtu.be/Beh12G1RCGM?si=f_AcK7MYma7ziItg

 

 

Edited February 25Feb 25 by Fullhealing

18 hours ago, Chippy said:

 

01 Jan 2025 Sertraline 100mg

01 Feb 2025 Sertraline 75mg

and so on……

 

Can you include all your drops for all drugs you’ve done as well of Oxazepam with dates for each drop?

Hi @Chippy

I have made a list of Oxapax tapering and updosing. If this is making sense, I´ll post it in my Signatur, and make the others tapers in the same way.

 

Historik of Oxapax tapering(kronologisk)

• 2018 - 2023: as needed (On/off) – max 7,5 mg x 3.
• 12. dec. 2023  22,5 mg 7,5 mg x 3.

 

2024

• 19. marts 2024: 20,6 mg (- 8,4%)
• 22. marts: 19,6 mg (- 4,3%)
• 31. marts: 18,6 mg (- 4,0%)
• 05. april: 17,8 mg (- 4,3%)
• 15. april: 13,8 mg (- 22,0%)
• 19. april: 12,1 mg (- 12,3%)
• 25. april: 13,1 mg (+ 8,6% - Updosing)
• 08. maj: 11,25 mg (- 14,0%)
• 22. maj: 9,15 mg (- 18,6%)
• 03. juni: 7,5 mg (- 19,6%)
• 17. juni: 5,6 mg (- 25,0%)
• 28. juli: 3,75 mg (- 33,0%)
• 30. aug: 3,75 mg (i alkohol-opløsning) (0%)
• 11. sept: 2,9 mg (- 22,0%)
• 19. okt: 2,6 mg (- 10,3%)
• 05. nov: 2,6 mg (overgang til 1mg/ml) (0%)
• 15. nov: 2,34 mg (- 10,0%)

 

---

 

2025

• 10. jan: 2,215 mg (- 5,8%)
• 31. jan: 2,2 mg (- 0,5%)
• 22. feb: 2,1 mg (- 4,5%)
• 07. marts: 2,09 mg (- 0,5%)
• 14. marts: 2,04 mg (- 2,3%)
• 22. marts: 1,95 mg (- 4,4%)
• 08. april: 1,9 mg (- 2,5%)
• 29. april: 1,875 mg (tablet) (- 1,3%)
• 17. maj: 1,875 mg (0%)
• 18. maj: 0,18 mg (Fejldosering - fortsatte herfra) (- 90,4%)
• 11. juli: 0,16 mg (- 11,1%)
• 17. juli: 0,17 mg (+ 5,6% - Updosing)
• 20. juli: 0,15 mg (- 11,8%)
• 02. aug: 0,14 mg (- 6,6%)
• 17. aug: 0,13 mg (- 7,1%)
• 25. aug: 0,12 mg (- 7,7%)
• 06. sept: 0,11 mg (- 8,3%)
• 26. sept: 0,115 mg (+ 4,5% - Updosing)
• 02. okt: 0,12 mg (+ 4,3% - Updosing)
• 30. okt: 3,87 mg (0,12mg + 3,75mg) (+ 3125%)
• 01. nov: 4,12 mg (0,12mg + 4mg) (+ 6,5%)
• 02. nov: 3,87 mg (- 6,1%)
• 03. nov: 3,87 mg (Tapering on Hold) (0%)
• 04. nov: 22,5 mg (7,5mg x 3) (+ 481%)
• 06. nov: 18,75 mg (- 16,7%)
• 07. nov: 22,5 mg (+ 20,0%)
• 10. nov: 15,0 mg (- 33,3%)
• 11. nov: 18,75 mg (+ 25,0%)
• 12. nov: 22,5 mg + PN (7,5 x 3 + PN) (+ 20,0%)
• 13. nov: 22,5 mg (Fast dosis) (0%)
• 15. dec: 21,6 mg (- 4,0%)
• 16. dec: 20,7 mg (- 4,2%)
• 21. dec: 20,6 mg (- 0,5%)
•  

2026

• 01. Jan 22,5 mg (+9,2 %)

 

1 hour ago, Fullhealing said:

really sorry @Haa in a similar trap as you and I wish there was a definitive answer, as you wrote it's mostly trial and error, others' attempts won't necessarily indicate yours, so it's really tricky and complicated and all that's left is to try.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope it brings significant relief, I really really do.

Sorry, I wasn't of any help here..

Sending lots of strength your way, stay strong, you'll get through it 💞

Thank you @Fullhealing I really appreciate your kindness 🙏💕

2 hours ago, Haa said:

Hi @Chippy

I have made a list of Oxapax tapering and updosing. If this is making sense, I´ll post it in my Signatur, and make the others tapers in the same way.

 

Historik of Oxapax tapering(kronologisk)

• 2018 - 2023: as needed (On/off) – max 7,5 mg x 3.
• 12. dec. 2023  22,5 mg 7,5 mg x 3.

 

2024

• 19. marts 2024: 20,6 mg (- 8,4%)
• 22. marts: 19,6 mg (- 4,3%)
• 31. marts: 18,6 mg (- 4,0%)
• 05. april: 17,8 mg (- 4,3%)
• 15. april: 13,8 mg (- 22,0%)
• 19. april: 12,1 mg (- 12,3%)
• 25. april: 13,1 mg (+ 8,6% - Updosing)
• 08. maj: 11,25 mg (- 14,0%)
• 22. maj: 9,15 mg (- 18,6%)
• 03. juni: 7,5 mg (- 19,6%)
• 17. juni: 5,6 mg (- 25,0%)
• 28. juli: 3,75 mg (- 33,0%)
• 30. aug: 3,75 mg (i alkohol-opløsning) (0%)
• 11. sept: 2,9 mg (- 22,0%)
• 19. okt: 2,6 mg (- 10,3%)
• 05. nov: 2,6 mg (overgang til 1mg/ml) (0%)
• 15. nov: 2,34 mg (- 10,0%)

 

---

 

2025

• 10. jan: 2,215 mg (- 5,8%)
• 31. jan: 2,2 mg (- 0,5%)
• 22. feb: 2,1 mg (- 4,5%)
• 07. marts: 2,09 mg (- 0,5%)
• 14. marts: 2,04 mg (- 2,3%)
• 22. marts: 1,95 mg (- 4,4%)
• 08. april: 1,9 mg (- 2,5%)
• 29. april: 1,875 mg (tablet) (- 1,3%)
• 17. maj: 1,875 mg (0%)
• 18. maj: 0,18 mg (Fejldosering - fortsatte herfra) (- 90,4%)
• 11. juli: 0,16 mg (- 11,1%)
• 17. juli: 0,17 mg (+ 5,6% - Updosing)
• 20. juli: 0,15 mg (- 11,8%)
• 02. aug: 0,14 mg (- 6,6%)
• 17. aug: 0,13 mg (- 7,1%)
• 25. aug: 0,12 mg (- 7,7%)
• 06. sept: 0,11 mg (- 8,3%)
• 26. sept: 0,115 mg (+ 4,5% - Updosing)
• 02. okt: 0,12 mg (+ 4,3% - Updosing)
• 30. okt: 3,87 mg (0,12mg + 3,75mg) (+ 3125%)
• 01. nov: 4,12 mg (0,12mg + 4mg) (+ 6,5%)
• 02. nov: 3,87 mg (- 6,1%)
• 03. nov: 3,87 mg (Tapering on Hold) (0%)
• 04. nov: 22,5 mg (7,5mg x 3) (+ 481%)
• 06. nov: 18,75 mg (- 16,7%)
• 07. nov: 22,5 mg (+ 20,0%)
• 10. nov: 15,0 mg (- 33,3%)
• 11. nov: 18,75 mg (+ 25,0%)
• 12. nov: 22,5 mg + PN (7,5 x 3 + PN) (+ 20,0%)
• 13. nov: 22,5 mg (Fast dosis) (0%)
• 15. dec: 21,6 mg (- 4,0%)
• 16. dec: 20,7 mg (- 4,2%)
• 21. dec: 20,6 mg (- 0,5%)
•  

2026

• 01. Jan 22,5 mg (+9,2 %)

 

Thank you @Haa Yes it makes sense.

 

Try to put a full history together but rather than put it in your footer just post it for the minute.

 

I'll then take a look at what you have posted and see what I think we should do with it.

 

Chippy

 

7 hours ago, Chippy said:

Try to put a full history together

@Chippy  I am working on. It takes a while, as I am going through my calendar to find the dates back in 2021-2022 in order to make it fit in a full histstory. 🙂 

13 hours ago, Haa said:

 

@Chippy  I am working on. It takes a while, as I am going through my calendar to find the dates back in 2021-2022 in order to make it fit in a full histstory. 🙂 

No rush @Haa Ill take a look once you are done. 🙂 Good work

Hi @Chippy

I have put all the dates I have in the overview of my medical history.

Concerning Lyrica I couldn't find the dates so I summarised the tapering pr year.

Concerning Oxapax its the complete tapering I did.

I still haven't gotten the same format in the whole document. I hope it can work any way.I am sorry. But I think this is as good as I can get it.

In the yeas to come, I might be in a better state to make it better, and then I can see a way of doing it.Should I attach the word doc instead og copies and paste it to this post? 

Thanks a lot. I am really grateful that you'll take time time to help me getting this right. I see you are busy on line as well.

I dont know how you can manage, while still suffering yourself. Many thanks and good thoughts. 🙏💕💕

 

 

27 minutes ago, Haa said:

Hi @Chippy

I have put all the dates I have in the overview of my medical history.

Concerning Lyrica I couldn't find the dates so I summarised the tapering pr year.

Concerning Oxapax its the complete tapering I did.

I still haven't gotten the same format in the whole document. I hope it can work any way.I am sorry. But I think this is as good as I can get it.

In the yeas to come, I might be in a better state to make it better, and then I can see a way of doing it.Should I attach the word doc instead og copies and paste it to this post? 

Thanks a lot. I am really grateful that you'll take time time to help me getting this right. I see you are busy on line as well.

I dont know how you can manage, while still suffering yourself. Many thanks and good thoughts. 🙏💕💕

 

 

Great work! Just post it on here and I’ll take a look. 😊

Hi @Chippy

 

It seems as if the very large amont of lines in my medical histoy can not be uploaded. it can only take part of it.

I´ll try to uploud the dokument and see how et goes

 

  

Medical tapering history total pr 27.02.26.docx

@chippy It seems as if the total medical tapering history is in the uploaded file. It is a word document. 

It is huge, as I put in all dates months years and dosis reduction as far as I remembered. I might have misunderstood what you ment, when ment, but here it is. Thank you for advising me. 🙏💕

Medical tapering history total pr 27.02.26.docx

Hi @Haa Thought I'd drop in and say hi. I'm on multiple medications and my history goes back to the nineties too. Some similarities too. Hope it's going okay for you 🤗

@Catbird 

Thank you for your comment.

I will drop in on yours as well. Nice to know we have something in common.

Not being alone and having a fellow traveler  on the journey is very comforting. 🙏💕

@Haa Ive been through your history you sent and tidied it up. Ive put it in your footer. It is very long. 🙂 

 

Can you check that all makes sense and is correct for me?

 

The only bit that didn't make sense to me was your Lyrica dose. What dose are you taking atm?

Could you look at that bit and let me know what actually happened?

 

Dont worry about the length of it at the moment we just need to understand your history better. Once we have, I'll archive some of the info to shrink down your footer! 🙂 

@Chippy Thank you for your very fast responds.

I sounds good that you can save it somewhere else and then compress it, when you dont need the long version any more. 
I’ll look at the footer, once I get home. 
Again thank you for your patients and all what you give ro this site. It means the world to everyone here. 

I have a question not concerning tapering og medication but of how I can support the site. Can I send you a mail? 
🙏💕💕