May 27May 27 4 minutes ago, Wombat said:This last week has not been so good, unfortunately.I am sorry to read that. Rough patches are part of the process, sadly. That month hold you have planned will do you well. If it needs to be longer than a month, so be it. Remember the sage advice of LostinCanada, your body sets the pace.5 minutes ago, Wombat said:I have been slowly climbing back out of my hole and am now starting to feel back to WD Normal.Excellent! It always warmed my soul when a wave became a window, or even WD normal.I read this quote in another context, but it's fitting for tapering too: After darkness, light! Multi-year hyperbolic Bintellix taper7 Dec 25: 0.42mg7 Mar 26: 0.44mg (+5%)29 Mar 26: 0.34mg (trying to follow the "slow" Maudsley Guide)28 Apr 26: 0.24mg24 May 26: 0.14mg29 Jun 26: 0.10mg31 Jul 26: 0.07mg28 Aug 26: 0.035mg
May 27May 27 Author Hi AlmostOff, Thank you for your positive response. Your words tend to calm me and put things back into perspective.I appreciate your support.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
May 27May 27 @Wombat how's your week been ? I hope the transition to liquid has been successful x On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
May 28May 28 Author Hi Cheeky, good to hear from you. I am just emerging from a wave. Back to WD Normal.I am glad to be on 100% liquid. Will be holding here for the next few weeks.How are you?Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
May 28May 28 3 hours ago, Wombat said:Hi Cheeky, good to hear from you. I am just emerging from a wave. Back to WD Normal.I am glad to be on 100% liquid. Will be holding here for the next few weeks.How are you?Wombat@Wombatim sorry to hear that you went through a wave but happy to hear your out of it now . It's will be so much easier doing the liquid and the cigar idea to hold for awhile. I've been good surviving nothing too much to complain. I will do another drop in a week if things keep the same.. even though I don't want to as I'm always so scared to. On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
May 28May 28 Author I am glad you are doing ok. I know it causes me a lot of apprehension too, when i am considering another drop.But we have to drop to get off. Slow and steady. We will get there Cheeky.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
May 28May 28 Glad things have eased after your recent wave @Wombat xxx I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
June 4Jun 4 How are you progressing, Wombat? WD normal? Multi-year hyperbolic Bintellix taper7 Dec 25: 0.42mg7 Mar 26: 0.44mg (+5%)29 Mar 26: 0.34mg (trying to follow the "slow" Maudsley Guide)28 Apr 26: 0.24mg24 May 26: 0.14mg29 Jun 26: 0.10mg31 Jul 26: 0.07mg28 Aug 26: 0.035mg
June 4Jun 4 Author Hi @AlmostOff, thanks for checking in. Yes a functioning WDNormal. I'm not complaining. So long as I stay stable I will begin my drops again on 20 June.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 4Jun 4 1 hour ago, Wombat said:Hi @AlmostOff, thanks for checking in.Yes a functioning WDNormal. I'm not complaining. So long as I stay stable I will begin my drops again on 20 June.WombatGood to here :) Good luck with the drop! xxx I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
June 4Jun 4 3 hours ago, Wombat said:Yes a functioning WDNormal. I'm not complaining.Sounding very positive!3 hours ago, Wombat said:So long as I stay stable I will begin my drops again on 20 June.I'll be following your progress with interest. Multi-year hyperbolic Bintellix taper7 Dec 25: 0.42mg7 Mar 26: 0.44mg (+5%)29 Mar 26: 0.34mg (trying to follow the "slow" Maudsley Guide)28 Apr 26: 0.24mg24 May 26: 0.14mg29 Jun 26: 0.10mg31 Jul 26: 0.07mg28 Aug 26: 0.035mg
June 5Jun 5 Author 21 hours ago, AlmostOff said:I'll be following your progress with interest.Right back at ya!!! I'm excited to see you get off these meds. Edited June 5Jun 5 by Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 15Jun 15 Hey @Wombat , How's it going with the home made liquid . Have you stabilised yet ? On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
June 15Jun 15 Author Hey Cheeky, I was going to do an update this coming weekend.It's been almost a month of holding at 8mgai (16ml). I have been WD Normal most of that time. I have had a couple of intense but relatively short waves. I was planning on recommencing my taper this coming Saturday, but I have been unwell for the past week. (A virus, not a wave). So I have decided to wait at least another week.So all up I have been holding at 8mgai for about 3 months. (Including the transition to liquid). I hadn't planned on that long of a hold, but I can only do what my body allows. And if it says "wait" I wait. At least I try to listen very carefully to what it says. I do get it wrong sometimes.Thanks for checking in. 😊Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 15Jun 15 1 hour ago, Wombat said:Hey Cheeky,I was going to do an update this coming weekend.It's been almost a month of holding at 8mgai (16ml). I have been WD Normal most of that time. I have had a couple of intense but relatively short waves.I was planning on recommencing my taper this coming Saturday, but I have been unwell for the past week. (A virus, not a wave). So I have decided to wait at least another week.So all up I have been holding at 8mgai for about 3 months. (Including the transition to liquid).I hadn't planned on that long of a hold, but I can only do what my body allows. And if it says "wait" I wait. At least I try to listen very carefully to what it says. I do get it wrong sometimes.Thanks for checking in. 😊Wombat@Wombat your doing it the right way . Good one you for listening to your body . Are you making up your doses daily ? I crush mine add the water then wait 20 minutes before I consume it . I was going to make it the night before and leave it in the fridge but I'm too scared to rock the boat . I really wish there was a support group in Australia , hopefully someone will eventually start one up or even a coach , that would be great . On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
June 15Jun 15 Author Hi, yes I make up my doses daily. I crush the tablet with a spoon, add water, wait 30 mins. Syringe out 16ml.I am really hoping to do 2 nights worth with the 1 tablet, but like you am too afraid to rock the boat. I was wondering if you had started using your micropipette, and what size did you get?I've been doing a little research into it, and realising I may have to buy 3 micropipettes by the end of the taper, which is going to add up to a lot. It's also very possible I don't understand the measurements.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 15Jun 15 8 minutes ago, Wombat said:I've been doing a little research into it, and realising I may have to buy 3 micropipettes by the end of the taper, which is going to add up to a lot. It's also very possible I don't understand the measurements.Have a read of my post here, might help you decide. https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/466-crystalfeather-need-help-with-using-a-micropipette-for-liquid-microtaper-zoloft/#findComment-20567 I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
June 15Jun 15 Author Ha ha. Actually I had been trying to follow that conversation and got lost.However, upon rereading it I am coming to a bit more of an understanding: DILUTION I will read it all again and work it out. Thank you so much 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 15Jun 15 Just now, Wombat said:However, upon rereading it I am coming to a bit more of an understanding: DILUTIONThis is key! I like 100-1000ul unit as it is basically a 1ml syringe, so you can just adjust the dilution when you need to go to smaller doses. I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
June 15Jun 15 14 hours ago, Wombat said:Hi, yes I make up my doses daily.I crush the tablet with a spoon, add water, wait 30 mins. Syringe out 16ml.I am really hoping to do 2 nights worth with the 1 tablet, but like you am too afraid to rock the boat.I was wondering if you had started using your micropipette, and what size did you get?I've been doing a little research into it, and realising I may have to buy 3 micropipettes by the end of the taper, which is going to add up to a lot. It's also very possible I don't understand the measurements.WombatNo, I haven't been using it yet, but I know I have to start. I'm just trying to get rid of all my syringes that I bought first. I can let you know the one that I bought when I get home from work. On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
June 15Jun 15 Author Have a great day. Hope this morning hasn't been too hard.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 15Jun 15 14 minutes ago, Wombat said:Have a great day. Hope this morning hasn't been too hard.WombatSo far so good , I will let you know the info tonight x On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
June 16Jun 16 Hi @Wombat This is the one I got https://shop.brand.de/en/single-channel-micropipette-transferpetter-s-adjustable-de-m-p13154.html?reference_sku=705884PIPETTOR TRANSFERPETTE S, VARIABLE VOLUME 1000uL- 10mL (705884)And I paid $361.50 that includes the tips I hope this helps xx On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
June 16Jun 16 Author Hey Cheeky, thanks for getting back to me.That's the one I was thinking of getting.And then once I get to 1ml I would have to get the size Chippy suggested.Hope your day has turned out OK.Wombat 1998 Paroxetine 20mg, getting to 60mg and staying there for many years.Started reducing by 10mg at a time, December 2018 to June 2019. At 30mg held for 2 and a half years.Beginning 2023, start micro tapering from 30mgEnd 2023 - 18.76. End 2024 - 13.37. End 2025 - 8.58 2026 - 31 Jan - 8.38, 15 Feb - 8.19, 07 March - 8.06, 14 March - 8.00, 08 April - holding and start liquid transition, 22 May completed liquid transition 8mg (16ml) held for 1 month27 June - 7.9, 12 July - 7.75, 18 July - 7.6, 25 July - 7.45, 22 August - 7.30, Deuteronomy 31.8 "The Lord Himself goes before you and will be with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged."
June 16Jun 16 14 minutes ago, Wombat said:Hey Cheeky, thanks for getting back to me.That's the one I was thinking of getting.And then once I get to 1ml I would have to get the size Chippy suggested.Hope your day has turned out OK.WombatI'm happy I could help . If you get one let me know . It is easy to use and it way more accurate then what I'm currently doing with the syringes . On Paxil since 1995. Seroquel added 2014 after withdrawal crash. History of too-fast tapers/reinstatements. 21 April 2025 taper two drugs at once Paxil 4% Seroquel 3.5% per monththat ended up being too much and changed to one drug at a time 13 Jul 2025: 4% Paxil cut29 Jul 2025: 5% Paxil cut 6 Aug 2025: began holdOct 2025: changed from liquid to powder and accidentally took 10x Seroquel dose for 2 weeks by mistake23 Oct 2025: returned to liquid with accidental 4.7% Seroquel cut Holding both drugs to stablizeHolding at Paxil 8.25 mg / Seroquel 6.5Paxil taper22/4 8.23 29/4 8.20 5/5 8.15 13/5 8.05 3/6 8 11/6 7.95
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