On 5/5/2026 at 12:00 PM, Catbird said:

Hi @cheeky I haven't seen you post for a while and I hope everything is going well for you. Coincidentally I've been looking into micropipettes and I'm wondering what brand you have purchased, what volume your'e using and the dilution ratio. Are you okay to have a chat about by DM? I'm shit at the moment. Incapacitated with abdominal spasms. For me I think moving to a micropipette would take a lot of the "home chemistry" hassles out of the equation. Looking forward to your response 🤗

@Catbird so sorry I just saw this message now will DM you now

@cheeky So pleased you have turned a corner and are having some good times long may it continue for you 🙏

Hey Cheeky,

My anxiety always starts up before I am about to change something. And I really don't want to make any changes, but to get off we have to do something. Slowly, slowly so hopefully we will get minimal withdrawal symptoms.

I am doing OK. I didn't have such a bad reaction this time (yet) with my next step in liquid. Hopefully, I will be able to do at least one more step and then go to fully liquid.

You know what I would do, is measure some water with your syringe and compare to the micropipette and you may find that it is pretty much the same. There may not be much of a difference. But when you change to the micropipette don't drop the dose as well. One change at a time.

You will find a pace to suit. And the micropipette might just be the thing to give you confidence of getting the right dose every time.

Remember, we can only do the best we can with the tools we have. It is not going to be perfect. We are not scientists (at least I am not) and do not work in a sterile lab. But we belong to this forum with people who can help and guide us.

Always remember that many people have successfully gotten off paroxetine and are living "normal" lives. We can get there too.

Wombat

19 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

f you decide to purchase it, use your syringe to measure a dose. Then measure that dose with the micropipette. That way there will be no changes. Also measure your water with the micropipette for the mixture. This would be the most accurate way.

Hi Cheeky, I have just been rereading back through your thread. I noticed LostinCanada said to do this when starting with the micropipette. This will be a good way to get an accurate dose without dropping or increasing the dose accidently. (Please ignore my suggestion).

Wombat

Remember what @AlmostOff said....if you are measuring the water with the micropipette and measuring your dose with the micropipette, you will get no variation in dose. 👍

14 hours ago, Wombat said:

Hey Cheeky,

My anxiety always starts up before I am about to change something. And I really don't want to make any changes, but to get off we have to do something. Slowly, slowly so hopefully we will get minimal withdrawal symptoms.

I am doing OK. I didn't have such a bad reaction this time (yet) with my next step in liquid. Hopefully, I will be able to do at least one more step and then go to fully liquid.

You know what I would do, is measure some water with your syringe and compare to the micropipette and you may find that it is pretty much the same. There may not be much of a difference. But when you change to the micropipette don't drop the dose as well. One change at a time.

You will find a pace to suit. And the micropipette might just be the thing to give you confidence of getting the right dose every time.

Remember, we can only do the best we can with the tools we have. It is not going to be perfect. We are not scientists (at least I am not) and do not work in a sterile lab. But we belong to this forum with people who can help and guide us.

Always remember that many people have successfully gotten off paroxetine and are living "normal" lives. We can get there too.

Wombat

I'm definitely not going to do two changes at once . I just want precision..

The only way is forward we've got this xx

7 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

Remember what @AlmostOff said....if you are measuring the water with the micropipette and measuring your dose with the micropipette, you will get no variation in dose. 👍

That's right I should start to use it , I'm just so nervous to do anything different .

14 hours ago, Beehive said:

@cheeky So pleased you have turned a corner and are having some good times long may it continue for you 🙏

Your so kind, thanks I hope it continues for me .

2 minutes ago, cheeky said:

I'm just so nervous to do anything different .

I understand...the fear definitely can be paralyzing. ❤️🙏

9 hours ago, cheeky said:

I just want precision..

9 hours ago, cheeky said:

I'm just so nervous to do anything different

You sound just like me.

Sending you lots of encouragement, Cheeky.

Wombat

Just coming by to say hello. Hope you are still in a good place.

Wombat

Hi @LostinCanada , I just wanted to ask a quick question about my liquid tapering method.

Currently I dissolve a 20 mg Paxil tablet into 40 mL of water, and my current dose is 8.15 mg, so I draw 16.3 mL.

To make things easier with my new pipette (which measures up to 10 mL), I was wondering if I could instead dissolve the 20 mg tablet into 20 mL of water, making it a 1:1 ratio.

That way I would simply draw 8.15 mL instead of 16.3 mL, but the actual dose would still remain 8.15 mg.

Does changing the concentration like this usually cause any issues, or should it be fine as long as the dose amount itself stays exactly the same?

Thank you 🙂

6 minutes ago, cheeky said:

Hi @LostinCanada , I just wanted to ask a quick question about my liquid tapering method.

Currently I dissolve a 20 mg Paxil tablet into 40 mL of water, and my current dose is 8.15 mg, so I draw 16.3 mL.

To make things easier with my new pipette (which measures up to 10 mL), I was wondering if I could instead dissolve the 20 mg tablet into 20 mL of water, making it a 1:1 ratio.

That way I would simply draw 8.15 mL instead of 16.3 mL, but the actual dose would still remain 8.15 mg.

Does changing the concentration like this usually cause any issues, or should it be fine as long as the dose amount itself stays exactly the same?

Thank you 🙂

The Maudsley Deprescribing Guide specifically mentions the ratio of 2 parts liquid to one part drug so 20 ml water to 10 mg paroxetine. I wouldn't mess with that myself.

You should be fine drawing the dose twice. Just shake/stir before each draw.

16 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

The Maudsley Deprescribing Guide specifically mentions the ratio of 2 parts liquid to one part drug so 20 ml water to 10 mg paroxetine. I wouldn't mess with that myself.

You should be fine drawing the dose twice. Just shake/stir before each draw.

@LostinCanada I currently do that. I could get two doses and leave it in the fridge overnight but I'm just a bit too scared to do that.

28 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

fine drawing the dose twice

I mean draw the 8.15 ml twice to get your dose of 16.3 ml. Keep the water to drug ratio the same, do not change the concentration.

Edited May 10May 10 by LostinCanada

3 hours ago, LostinCanada said:

I mean draw the 8.15 ml twice to get your dose of 16.3 ml. Keep the water to drug ratio the same, do not change the concentration.

Sorry @LostinCanada my brains not working , so do you mean I can put a 20mg tablet into 20mls water and my current dose is 8.11mg, so I can get two

Doses out of that for two days ?

10 minutes ago, cheeky said:

so do you mean I can put a 20mg tablet into 20mls water and my current dose is 8.11mg, so I can get two

Doses out of that for two days ?

No….i am saying do not change how you make your dose. Use a 20mg pill with 40 ml of water. If you wish to use the micropipette , you will have to draw up the diy solution twice to get the needed dose of 16.3 ml.

It is not advised to do a 1:1 ratio.

1 hour ago, LostinCanada said:

No….i am saying do not change how you make your dose. Use a 20mg pill with 40 ml of water. If you wish to use the micropipette , you will have to draw up the diy solution twice to get the needed dose of 16.3 ml.

It is not advised to do a 1:1 ratio.

Okay great , I'm doing the right thing . Sorry to be a pain , my aniexty is ramped up today and I don't want to make mistakes .

It's good to understand what you're doing Cheeky. And double-checking your procedure is also a good thing. It is all so nerve-racking, but you'll get into a rhythm and you'll be right again.

Wombat

15 hours ago, Wombat said:

It's good to understand what you're doing Cheeky. And double-checking your procedure is also a good thing. It is all so nerve-racking, but you'll get into a rhythm and you'll be right again.

Wombat

I really don't want to make any mistakes. I hope that's fine my rhythm in this and a good percentage that I can handle

Okay, update,

So it's been nearly 4 weeks since I did my 2% cut and I've done relatively okay but I felt in the last couple of days the morning

Anxiety and the doom and gloom and it's been lasting until lunchtime and then eases at night time. I feel like it's like having many windows and waves during the day if that makes sense like I can have a terrible morning but better afternoon. I'm just wondering if this is withdrawal normal and it's just how it's supposed to be in the whole tapering journey having good days and bad . I Just don't know how I'm going to do this for years .

Dear @cheeky ...my mornings are always the worst. I level out usually by mid afternoon and definitely better in the evening.

It is just better not to think to far ahead. We know the pattern can change, things can get worse but they can also get better......we just have to keep moving forward...no matter what, less of a drug is always better. ❤️🙏

36 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

Dear @cheeky ...my mornings are always the worst. I level out usually by mid afternoon and definitely better in the evening.

It is just better not to think to far ahead. We know the pattern can change, things can get worse but they can also get better......we just have to keep moving forward...no matter what, less of a drug is always better. ❤️🙏

@LostinCanada i know this so well and I keep telling myself that " This is not who I am " this is just a nervous system trying to recalibrate and it's a good thing, but is so overwhelming and hard trying to mask it . Just a tough morning this morning .

Thank you for always reassuring me🌸

FWIW, I experienced the same mini windows and waves towards the end of my taper. I did find they became less intense over time as I tapered. Hoping you find the same!

@cheeky I have similar patterns of either good in the morning and bad in the evening or vice versa. I also have periods (weeks or on rare occasions months) where I feel terrible interspersed with a few windows. I think the doom, dread and gloom is such a horrible and almost intolerable state. I have not had a deep state of it for a while now. I empathise if this is you atm. 🤗🧡

@cheeky I'm exactly the same ,changing all the time and yes its tough and we get a bit despondent with it all but maybe look at it as you are changing all the time and it's not always the same which to me is a good thing ,it's recalibration it's ironing out the creases. Sometimes it may have to go back over a few just to flatten them out again ,it will smooth out eventually. As hard as it is I personally believe this is a good sign and yes we get weary its battle fatigue, but I think you are getting there and good times aren't too far away ❤️....just concentrate on the here and now ,no one can predict how it's going to be ,I think you're doing great you might not see it but I do ❤️

Edited May 14May 14 by Beehive