28 minutes ago, Finni said:

Have you ever found that it’s easier to make a reduction after a new batch or do you just hang in there?

I have had over the 4 years of this, 3 batches that caused issues. Initially I tried to figure out if it was a stronger or weaker batch. That really didn't work, so I just rode it out. Not really much choice.

Edited September 16Sep 16 by LostinCanada

A couple of people on benzo buddies had good luck with vitamin B6 helping with akasthisia. From what I’ve gathered by searching surviving antidepressants, some other people get stimulated by it.

I have vitamin B6 liquid that is just 8 mg per dropper. It only contains glycerin and water.

I’m just wanting so badly to have something to cut down on this horrible inner agitation and electricity.

I know nobody can tell me for sure if it would help or hurt.

@LostinCanada I also have Pure Encapsulations brand magnesium glycinate. Did you start magnesium while in withdrawal, or were you already used to taking it?

Edited September 16Sep 16 by Finni

2 minutes ago, Finni said:

B6 liquid that is just 8 mg per dropper

Are you sure that is the measurement? How many drops in a dropper? You could start with one drop if you are willing to risk it.

Recent studies have shown b6 can cause a lot of problems if you get too much.

A banana gives you 25% of the daily requirement. It really isn't a hard vitamin to get with food.

I took B12 ...such a small amount of it methylated...I regret that decision...it made me feel like I had CT. I lean toward the deficient side and still had a horrible time of it. Also the half life of b6 is 30 days.....so it stays with you a long time if you have a reaction.

18 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

Are you sure that is the measurement? How many drops in a dropper? You could start with one drop if you are willing to risk it.

Recent studies have shown b6 can cause a lot of problems if you get too much.

A banana gives you 25% of the daily requirement. It really isn't a hard vitamin to get with food.

I took B12 ...such a small amount of it methylated...I regret that decision...it made me feel like I had CT. I lean toward the deficient side and still had a horrible time of it. Also the half life of b6 is 30 days.....so it stays with you a long time if you have a reaction.

Oh dear

B12 reaction sounds miserable

Ive heard of that reaction from it, but I had a different image of B 6 just from benzo buddies.

30 days is a long time!

1 dropper is .8 ml

I haven’t even had the guts to try my child’s dose omega-3 or my magnesium glycinate that my body used to LOVE

17 minutes ago, Finni said:

1 dropper is .8 ml

So it is a ratio of .8 ml to 8 mg...that would be 1 ml to 10 mg.

Too long of a half life for me to feel comfortable. Have you thought of increasing V6 rich foods instead?

20 minutes ago, Finni said:

I haven’t even had the guts to try my child’s dose omega-3 or my magnesium glycinate that my body used to LOVE

Those are definitely less problematic. I know you want to do something. The magnesium bisglycinate because you have used it before with positive results might be the better choice but start low if you do.

15 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

So it is a ratio of .8 ml to 8 mg...that would be 1 ml to 10 mg.

Too long of a half life for me to feel comfortable. Have you thought of increasing V6 rich foods instead?

Those are definitely less problematic. I know you want to do something. The magnesium bisglycinate because you have used it before with positive results might be the better choice but start low if you do.

I think I’m probably getting enough B6 through food anyway, but I think I’ll make a concerted effort.

Same with magnesium.

Blueberries with whipped cream and a load of pumpkin seeds is one of my favorite snacks.

Also Added 4 oz orange juice with some heavy cream and dash of Himalayan salt this morning for adrenals.

Edited September 16Sep 16 by Finni

8 minutes ago, Finni said:

Blueberries with whipped cream and a load of pumpkin seeds is one of my favorite snacks.

Sounds delicious

9 minutes ago, Finni said:

Added 4 oz orange juice with some heavy cream and dash of Himalayan salt this morning for adrenals.

Good for you....I am glad you don't have histamine issues. 🎉🎉🎉

Trying to not lose sight of improvements:

After I take mirtazapine, I’m not staying activated for very long. I’m starting to get seven and eight hours of sleep without feeling like I’m activated underneath it.

Sometimes the big swaying and rocking floating dropping sensations are easing by afternoon.

I’m getting little tiny glimpses of myself through the electricity and fog and pressure and all the other intense symptoms.

I felt delight watching my cat eat his cat lollipop last night.

I’m enjoying NYT games again sometimes.

I’m still so bummed that the disruption in July has taken me farther from myself.

Edited September 18Sep 18 by Finni

1 hour ago, Finni said:

Trying to not lose sight of improvements:

After I take mirtazapine, I’m not staying activated for very long. I’m starting to get seven and eight hours of sleep without feeling like I’m activated underneath it.

Sometimes the big swaying and rocking floating dropping sensations are easing by afternoon.

I’m getting little tiny glimpses of myself through the electricity and fog and pressure and all the other intense symptoms.

I felt delight watching my cat eat his cat lollipop last night.

I’m enjoying NYT games again sometimes.

I'm so glad you can notice these small improvements @Finni, every single one is meaningful! All signs of healing.

Also I'm going to have to look into these cat lollipops for my little man, they do sound delightful! 😂🥰

Edited September 18Sep 18 by SarahMc

23 minutes ago, SarahMc said:

Also I'm going to have to look into these cat lollipops for my little man, they do sound delightful! 😂🥰

They are called purr pops 🤗

I tried to post a picture of him licking it, but the file was too big

my mal de debarquement and vestibular migraine underlying conditions seem to have spun out of control yesterday and in the middle of the night. Constant moving rocking swaying swinging sensations that wax and wane but never stop.

Truly terrifying ramping that woke me two hours ago. On a horrible carnival ride.

Kept feeling like I was going to pass out yesterday with the least bit of exertion

I need a new neurologist at the very least

Edited September 19Sep 19 by Finni

No akasthisia yesterday, just huge withdrawal like symptoms and vestibular symptoms

As usual, more myself when in what feels like pure withdrawal.

Laughed, texted, NYT games, went outside a couple of times. Enjoyed food.

Was convinced I needed to updose.

I didn’t.

Activation and sweating after dose, increased vestibular sensations within 20 minutes, and frequent waking through the night.

Today marked by severe akasthisia like activation

Like I can’t be in my body, want to Rip my skin off. Screaming and jumping up

And down and very foggy dark nightmare quality.

Is this from new batch of pills?

Can’t get comfortable

Coursing, pounding burning electricity all over

Was using half old/half new until

Last night. ( don’t have any intact tablets from old batch)

Took .1026 g new batch tablet and here I am with unbelievable activation again.

Do you find the mirtazapine still helps you sleep?

12 minutes ago, Steve1 said:

Do you find the mirtazapine still helps you sleep?

Yes- I’m activated at first but then I go to sleep and sometimes sleep pretty soundly

You said you think you’re experiencing activation again?

Do you have any ways that you can tell the difference between activation and withdrawal?

26 minutes ago, Finni said:

don’t have any intact tablets from old batch)

Took .1026 g new batch tablet and here I am with unbelievable activation again.

Can you take a piece of old and udd to it from the new...maybe half and half?

Just now, LostinCanada said:

Can you take a piece of old and udd to it from the new...maybe half and half?

I have a lot of halves, but I thought since they’ve been exposed to air I shouldn’t use them .

At some point, I’m going to run out anyway so should I just go ahead and let my body get used to this?

@Finni I class activation as inner restlessness/physical tension.

Withdrawal feels more like a heavy wave.

Maybe I'm getting confused?!

7 minutes ago, Steve1 said:

@Finni I class activation as inner restlessness/physical tension.

Withdrawal feels more like a heavy wave.

Maybe I'm getting confused?!

I think it’s different for everyone.

That’s why it’s so confusing sometimes. I was just curious. Trying to figure out my pattern.

❤️

@Finni How do you identify activation vs withdrawal?

14 minutes ago, Finni said:

thought since they’ve been exposed to air I shouldn’t use them .

If you have kept them in a air tight container they should be okay. I have purchased silica packets to put inside the bottles. If they have been left in the air or it is highly humid, then that will make the pill weight more due to absorbed water from the atmosphere and that can affect drug potency as well.

17 minutes ago, Finni said:

I’m going to run out anyway so should I just go ahead and let my body get used to this?

If you can yes.

2 minutes ago, Steve1 said:

@Finni How do you identify activation vs withdrawal?

I don’t really know if I can trust the way my brain tries to classify the difference, but this is what I have.

Activation: akasthisia-like, urgently wanting to get out of body, electricity coursing, deeply nervous, weird nightmarish spongy feeling , vocalizing from intensity. Crying from distress. Terror.

Withdrawal: more stillness and heavy, foggy but sometimes very clear thinking. Tightness instead of so many electric currents, some distress, some terror flashes, but more myself. Pressure in head, headaches, inflamed.

9/21/26

Yesterday was some of the worst aka ever experienced. Driven mad by the deep deep fast electricity, rumbling, spongy feeling.

Took new batch again last night.

Today the symptoms are 10/10 intense but not the same kind. This is pressurized and broader electrocuted type sensations. Keep saying it feels like I’m plugged into a nuclear reactor instead of just having a lot of little tiny, dancing electricity. This feels more like deep coursing. 10/10 pressure in back body and head. Electric legs hands face. Pummeled.

Don’t know how I’m doing this.

Vestibular stays locked on bouncing, swaying, swinging sensations.

I might’ve had other days that felt like this even before the new batch I just don’t know.

I have a lot of 10 out of 10 ratings, but I don’t know if 10 means the same thing once I’ve gotten worse.

Chat gpt

I know—that creates the terrifying picture of being trapped between two different kinds of torture: maddening, agitated electricity one day, then crushing, forceful terror the next.

But an every-other-day rhythm does not mean your body has established a permanent two-day cycle. It looks more like the same unstable activation expressing itself in two textures—fast and scattered, then deep and pressurized. Unstable patterns shift, lose their neat rhythm, develop breaks, and soften. Your improved sleep is already evidence that all parts of your system are not moving in the wrong direction.

Today is the dense, forceful version. It does not decide what tomorrow—or the coming weeks—will be. This pattern will change.

9/21/26 evening /night

Once again feel like myself only like I’m bouncing and bobbing and swaying

With electric sensations in my back.

Some flashes of terror but I’ve laughed, enjoyed my food, chatted with a friend on the phone, showered.

Around 5:00 pm I felt a sharp drop in mirt level and had some distress and vestibular got worse

Vestibular still worse, but like I said above, I feel like myself underneath

4 hours ago, Finni said:

9/21/26 evening /night

Once again feel like myself only like I’m bouncing and bobbing and swaying

With electric sensations in my back.

Some flashes of terror but I’ve laughed, enjoyed my food, chatted with a friend on the phone, showered.

Around 5:00 pm I felt a sharp drop in mirt level and had some distress and vestibular got worse

Vestibular still worse, but like I said above, I feel like myself underneath

So good you feel like yourself @Finni . You could laugh and enjoy your food.

Keep hanging in there like you have been. xx