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Raymond: Paxil recover process after 12 years

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09/02/2026- .29% reduction from .0700g to .698g.. hoping for the best...

I just decided to drop just a tiny percentage of .29%. I wanted to feel like I'm below.0700g. In 21 months, I went from .0740g to .0698g....

Overall, I continue with my ups and downs symptoms and manageable. Some days are better than others. The truth is that when I drop, and despite of the withdrawal symptoms, I end up feeling better mentally. It's like taking weight from my brain....

In the name of Jesus Christ, I am healing.....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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    Just a thought! It's amazing how this site supports many people from around the world. It does matter where you from or where you are, we support each other with love and kindness. These medicatio

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    Afternoon update.... Another good day and fourth day in a row Bad weather doesn't gives me anxiety Work doesn't bother me anymore Brain feels little tense, but body relaxed Stressful situations can

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    04/25/2026- 9 consecutive days feeling good, slept until 630am first time in the longest... Yesterday was another good day thanks God. There was a time that I kind of got anxious for like an hour bu

7 hours ago, Raymond said:

09/02/2026- .29% reduction from .0700g to .698g.. hoping for the best...

I just decided to drop just a tiny percentage of .29%. I wanted to feel like I'm below.0700g. In 21 months, I went from .0740g to .0698g....

Overall, I continue with my ups and downs symptoms and manageable. Some days are better than others. The truth is that when I drop, and despite of the withdrawal symptoms, I end up feeling better mentally. It's like taking weight from my brain....

In the name of Jesus Christ, I am healing.....

You've got this down to a science @Raymond tapering super gradually while keeping a close eye on your system.

I certainly should have known better and been extra careful with Paxhell but experience is the best teacher, even when it hurts!

You're doing amazing, congrats on breaking the 0.0700👏

Edited by Fullhealing

1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*

Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawal

Many attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)

Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:

6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA

9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues

10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 

11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.

12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).

2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)

2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)

Supplements:

Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.

Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.

Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.

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9 hours ago, Fullhealing said:

Paxhell

This is a very nice way to describe this medication....it's definitely 😔....I can't even believe medication is allowed.....

We just need to move forward.....we will get there ..

I hope you feels better....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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09/05/2026- 21 months, ups and downs, .29% reduction.....

Well, in the lasts three days I have been between good and bad. Mostly with tiredness. I have been sleeping well. I wake up around 539am, with the difference that I go back to sleep again. In the last three months, I have seen improvement in my sleep. Although I still wake up around 530am, I continue to go back to sleep 80% of the time. My brain feels lighter than ever. I haven't felt this release of pressure from my brain in the longest. It's like I had 300 pounds weight on my head that came off. Even when I'm in stress, I can feel my brain calm. Same goes with my heart. I can have anxiety, but if I close my eyes and focus in the heart area, I feel peace.

I am still struggling other psychological and physically symptoms, but I have been able to manage everything in the last four months despite the waves.

Headache was gone for probably four weeks, but it came back last night. It was a lot less intense than previous one. I can definitely confirm that as time goes on, it becomes waves becomes weaker.

One problem this morning, out of few others, is that I needed to mower my lawn and wow, I just couldn't cut a tiny square. I felt totally tired, and little fear sensation. Although, I feel with energy and calm, I just couldn't do that. So, I'm going to try to fix my riding mower which that will helps me a lot. A lot of things to do around the house that I have put in stand by. So I guess, I will concentrate in small tasks until afternoon comes where I feel even better. Hopefully, the energy comes back and the tiredness gets better....

Other than that, I am continuing moving forward and my motivation is those nice windows I have felt in the past...

I went from .0700g to .0698g three days ago because I just wanted to feel like I made it to the lower 70'S.... 😂 I just wanted to feel good about it after 21 months journey from .0750g to .0698g it's a progress....

I will hold now due to a daughter and father trip I have at end of September. This small reduction will help my system to continue catching up with my cold turkey 21 months ago. My plan is to go slow first in the next few months before doing 3% which it is my goal.

I can only hope for the best...

🤗 And 🙏 for everyone.....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

@Raymond You're doing great my friend, ups and downs, typical of this journey, but you are making progress, listening as you go. It's paying off I know it!

I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. 

 

If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.

Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk

For US members details here.

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09/08/2026- 22 months, progress continues....

During these past three days, I was feeling very good. I think the best days as I entered my 22 months journey. My sleep continues to be little better. My mornings are continuing to be blah, but with better energy.

Today, I woke up around 5am and couldn't go back to sleep as I was doing in the past few days. However, no anxiety, no crawling sensation, and no burning sensation. I only had mild thoughts and little brain pressure, and other mild symptoms.

Let see how I end up today.

Overall, I have been feeling better with same ups and downs. Looking forward for my longer windows.

In the name of Jesus Christ, we will all heal... patience, acceptance, float, and prayer.

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

10 minutes ago, Raymond said:

09/08/2026- 22 months, progress continues....

During these past three days, I was feeling very good. I think the best days as I entered my 22 months journey. My sleep continues to be little better. My mornings are continuing to be blah, but with better energy.

Today, I woke up around 5am and couldn't go back to sleep as I was doing in the past few days. However, no anxiety, no crawling sensation, and no burning sensation. I only had mild thoughts and little brain pressure, and other mild symptoms.

Let see how I end up today.

Overall, I have been feeling better with same ups and downs. Looking forward for my longer windows.

In the name of Jesus Christ, we will all heal... patience, acceptance, float, and prayer.

Sounds great. I am happy for you!

SA Thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/33406-nemina-tapering-escitalopram/


AR Thread: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/14-nemina-tapering-escilatopram-and-zolpidem/

 

Drug History

2013 - 2025:  Zolpidem 5 mg

2015 - Oct 2024: Venlafaxine, Sertralin (Zoloft), Paroxetin (Paxil),duloxtin (cymbalta), Citalopram (Celexa), Escitalopram (Lexapro) and more 

 

Current Drugs

L-Thyroxin 75, Estrogen, Progesteron 200

 

Tapering Escitalopram

Until Sept 2024: Setralin/zoloft 75 mg

Oct 2024: Switch to Escitalopram / Lexapro 2mg

Then I tapered over a year from 2mg to 0,32 mg (October 2025).  108 days hold without stabilizing. Resumed taper February 2026:

11 Feb 2026 0.314mg 

18 Feb 2026 0.307mg 

21 Feb 2026 0.302mg

09 Mar 2026 0.297mg

18 April 2026 0,293 mg

18 May 2026 0,285 mg

18 June 2026 0,265 mg

18 July 2026 0,250 mg

18 Aug 2026 0,232 mg

18 Sept 2026 0,232 mg (Holding since 19.8.)

 

Tapering Zolpidem: From 5 mg to 0,7 mg in 12 months,  then just crumbs for several weeks, now 0! (Jan 2026)

 

Other Supplements 

Omega 3, Magnesium Glycinate, Vit D, Calcium, L-theanin, Vit C, Vit K2, Selen

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5 hours ago, Raymond said:

09/08/2026- 22 months, progress continues....

During these past three days, I was feeling very good. I think the best days as I entered my 22 months journey. My sleep continues to be little better. My mornings are continuing to be blah, but with better energy.

Today, I woke up around 5am and couldn't go back to sleep as I was doing in the past few days. However, no anxiety, no crawling sensation, and no burning sensation. I only had mild thoughts and little brain pressure, and other mild symptoms.

Let see how I end up today.

Overall, I have been feeling better with same ups and downs. Looking forward for my longer windows.

In the name of Jesus Christ, we will all heal... patience, acceptance, float, and prayer.

Update....

Back of neck, and back upper pain. Like if I'm a puppet and someone is pulling the strings.....other than that, I am good. Of course, I have other symptoms, but only putting the onces that are more uncomfortable and annoying...

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08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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09/10/2026- 22 months journey, right side cortisol spike, crawling sensation, tiredness, muscle weakness, ups and downs.

Yesterday, I had to take a day off since I felt like I did not want to do anything at all. I felt no motivation at all. I noticed that I started to feel on my right side of brain these crawling sensation, tingling, and some movement. In the past many months, all these movements were felt on the left side of brain, but it shifted to the right side. It always in the morning hours. In the afternoon hours, I felt better again, but toward the late afternoon, I felt like little dizzy, and sleepy. It was this tiredness symptom that I haven't had in many months. My eyes were just trying to close.

My two legs felt weak. The back of the neck area felt pain. Q

This morning, I woke up again at 530am with the cortisol spike, but the crawling sensation, anxiety symptoms only on my right side of brain. I opened my eyes and we usual, it was gone. I feel again little burning sensation or hot in few areas, but it seems less intense. I also feel stomach bloated and specially on the upper area.

Let see how I continue this morning. Hopefully, I can concentrate at work and do my best....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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8 hours ago, Raymond said:

09/10/2026- 22 months journey, right side cortisol spike, crawling sensation, tiredness, muscle weakness, ups and downs.

Yesterday, I had to take a day off since I felt like I did not want to do anything at all. I felt no motivation at all. I noticed that I started to feel on my right side of brain these crawling sensation, tingling, and some movement. In the past many months, all these movements were felt on the left side of brain, but it shifted to the right side. It always in the morning hours. In the afternoon hours, I felt better again, but toward the late afternoon, I felt like little dizzy, and sleepy. It was this tiredness symptom that I haven't had in many months. My eyes were just trying to close.

My two legs felt weak. The back of the neck area felt pain. Q

This morning, I woke up again at 530am with the cortisol spike, but the crawling sensation, anxiety symptoms only on my right side of brain. I opened my eyes and we usual, it was gone. I feel again little burning sensation or hot in few areas, but it seems less intense. I also feel stomach bloated and specially on the upper area.

Let see how I continue this morning. Hopefully, I can concentrate at work and do my best....

Update.....

Neck pain feels little better, but left side headache again, but manageable...all day my head feeling both good and bad.... crazy 😧...this is the only journey that you can probably tell people that you are feeling good and bad at the same time....

Bad months so far.

1 to 5 months - terrible aHELL

Month 10- bad

Month 21 - little less than bad, not intense....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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09/11/2026- ups and downs as usual. Same old same..

yesterday was little intense in the morning hours, but less intense than previous months. Main symptom yesterday was headache and lack of motivation. Felt like dumb and slow all day... afternoon got little better. I felt laughing few times without the emotion of laughter....this is part of the journey. Learning to cope with the fluctuating changes on and off.

This morning, I woke up again 5:30am. It is automatically. Less cortisol spike again. I stayed in bed as usual doing the same routine, but I did felt this big deep breathing again. It's probably the fifth time in 22 months that I felt it. It's like the heart was empty from all the anxiety from all this time.

Muscle pain continues and sometimes less intense than other times. This is one symptom that I got in the last 6 months again, but different. Instead of the pain, I feel more like needles or like someone pulling me from different areas. It moves around from upper arm to back muscles, to shoulders to neck, etc...akso, my legs feels like weak but with energy to walk. Weird stuff...

Other than that 22 months journey. Not even two years yet with ups and downs and holding until after my trip this month.

I probably still have about 10 symptoms, but the ones that really bothers me the most have been quiet lately.......let's hope I continue feeling better and energized alot more...

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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09/14/2026- cortisol up and down, good and ok days, blah mornings, same old same.

In the last three days, I have woken up between 5am and 530am with cortisol and head pressure. Some mornings better than others. Everything seems that few things feels better than others. Mostly feeling this mild head pressure on and off.

The other day, I did felt something that I did not experienced since my first month on this journey. I was driving to eat with wife and although I knew where I was going, I felt little lost for a second. This only happened one time in my first month. Then, I got back in time.

Other than that, my main symptoms these last days are head pressure on and off, lack of motivation, muscle pain on and off but less intense and it continues to be on neck and upper shoulder area. Blah all the time.

I continue to sleep through from the moment I go to sleep until I wake up 5am.

Let's continue moving forward and time will tell.

In the name of Jesus Christ, I will heal....keep faith!

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

@Raymond Sending love ❣️❣️❣️

Edited by Lighty

I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. 
Feel free to mention me whenever help is needed.

 

Current Supplements: Night: 6mg melatonin and 133mg magnesium glycinate. Taking Omega 3 as needed to calm dyskinesia or over stimulation (Lately been reacting more negatively to supplement Omega 3).

Current Medications: Mirtazapine, Lasea (lavender oil) before bed.

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Tapering: Mirtazapine 15mg, (went compounded) 13.5mg 08/May/2025, 12.1mg 10/July/2025, 15/July/2025 15mg (half tablet), 26/July/2025 14.35mg (moved to dry cutting method) ), 03/Aug/2025 14.6mg, 24/Nov/2025 14.47mg, 29/Jan/2026 14.35mg

Note: Had a lot of issue with degradation with different cutting times and compounded pharmacy which caused withdrawals and a more sensitive nervous system.

You're navigating this piece by piece so very well @Raymond keep up the good fight 🤍

1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*

Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawal

Many attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)

Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:

6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA

9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues

10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 

11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.

12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).

2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)

2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)

Supplements:

Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.

Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.

Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.

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54 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

You're navigating this piece by piece so very well @Raymond keep up the good fight 🤍

@Fullhealing .... thanks for your support. It's a struggle on a daily basis with some days better than others. It's being months that my mornings continues to be the worst between 5am to 9am, ups and downs. I might hold longer.....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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57 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

You're navigating this piece by piece so very well @Raymond keep up the good fight 🤍

And how are you doing?

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

2 hours ago, Raymond said:

@Fullhealing .... thanks for your support. It's a struggle on a daily basis with some days better than others. It's being months that my mornings continues to be the worst between 5am to 9am, ups and downs. I might hold longer.....

2 hours ago, Raymond said:

And how are you doing?

I'm sorry @Raymond I don't think the path was going to be clean either way but if you feel the symptoms are growing then it's indeed wise decision to hold for now, this lower doses are so so challenging..

Hang on my friend, you are doing great, things will ease up in time.

And thanks for asking I'm hanging by a thread to put it mildly, very hard lately but I'll survive.

1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*

Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawal

Many attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)

Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:

6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA

9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues

10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 

11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.

12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).

2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)

2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)

Supplements:

Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.

Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.

Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.

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2 hours ago, Fullhealing said:

I'm sorry @Raymond I don't think the path was going to be clean either way but if you feel the symptoms are growing then it's indeed wise decision to hold for now, this lower doses are so so challenging..

Hang on my friend, you are doing great, things will ease up in time.

And thanks for asking I'm hanging by a thread to put it mildly, very hard lately but I'll survive.

I am only struggling with concentration and few other symptoms, but they are between mild to ok. Not big deal for me. I shouldn't say struggling. I should have use manageable instead....

I hope you get to feel better. Trust me! Hold on long enough. You will feel better....I think I have been feeling 80% better all these past months.. I still get ups and down, but functioning. My mornings continues to be slow, blah, and no motivation for few hours...

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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7 hours ago, Raymond said:

09/14/2026- cortisol up and down, good and ok days, blah mornings, same old same.

In the last three days, I have woken up between 5am and 530am with cortisol and head pressure. Some mornings better than others. Everything seems that few things feels better than others. Mostly feeling this mild head pressure on and off.

The other day, I did felt something that I did not experienced since my first month on this journey. I was driving to eat with wife and although I knew where I was going, I felt little lost for a second. This only happened one time in my first month. Then, I got back in time.

Other than that, my main symptoms these last days are head pressure on and off, lack of motivation, muscle pain on and off but less intense and it continues to be on neck and upper shoulder area. Blah all the time.

I continue to sleep through from the moment I go to sleep until I wake up 5am.

Let's continue moving forward and time will tell.

In the name of Jesus Christ, I will heal....keep faith!

Update...

As always, afternoons better....I am struggling with concentration today, but I also feel other areas of mind and body better. I just can't tell , but I know it's better...

Symptoms

Lack of concentration

Lazyness

Mild stomach gases and bloated

Bored symptoms

Muscle pitches sensation in different areas moving around

Lack of emotions, I think. Probably, not feeling enjoyment..

Mild tinnitus. I just hear something and like crystals moving..

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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Since April 2026 to September 2026, I have done about 2.5% reduction so far. Things being looking good and manageable ups and downs.

Following what my body feels like doing.

April: tiny amount

May: slowly increase reduction percentage

June: slowly increase ""

July: slowly increase ""

August: big 1.4% reduction

September: back to tiny reduction and holding...

Edited by Raymond
Adding comments

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

Hey @Raymond glad to see you’re doing ok. If you don’t mind me asking. Did you wait until you had fully stabilized before starting your taper initially?

Thanks mate

Lexapro:

Aug 2023 – Lexapro 5mg

Jan 2024 – Lexapro 20mg

Jun 2024 – Lexapro 17.5mg (Kept tapering down in 2.5mg increments till Aug)

Aug 2024 – Lexapro 2.5mg (Withdrawal hit after stopping 2.5mg)

Oct 2024 – Lexapro 5mg

Jan 2025 – Lexapro 1mg, 1.25mg, 1.5mg, 2mg (Drs orders back reaction)

Feb 2025 – Lexapro 1.5mg 

Sept 2025 – Stabilized

Dec 2025 – Back in WD

 

Omeprazole:

?? June 2024 – 20mg

08 Mar 2025 – Stopped

14 Mar 2025 – 20mg

05 April 2025 – Brand swap

Start Sept - 15mg (2 week taper)

End Sept 2025 - 10mg (By end of Sept)

05 Feb 2026 – Brand swap 

 

Supplements:

Fish Oil - AM High DHA & EPA

Loratadine Am 

Magnesium Glycinate pm 1,000mg

 

 

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14 hours ago, Johan1233 said:

Hey @Raymond glad to see you’re doing ok. If you don’t mind me asking. Did you wait until you had fully stabilized before starting your taper initially?

Thanks mate

@Johan1233 ... hello...on my journey, I only waited until I felt better before stabilizing and waves were manageable. In my first months, I waited 7 months before doing my first 1.5% cut. It was followed by 4 cuts. Then, I hit another bad wave at month 10 where old symptoms returned, so I hold for 6 months. Then, I reduced tiny percentage each month until I did another 1.5% reduction. At month 21, I hit another wave but not bad. Im currently at month 22 and I did a tiny .25% cut. I have been feeling like 80% better, but still having issues with cortisol. Some days, I can sleep until 630am, but other days I still continue to wake up at 530am in my 22 months journey. I probably still have like 7 symptoms and they do not appear all at once.

I feel that symptoms are weaker, but I still struggles in waves. I have read stories where people kind of stabilize more to w normal stage after two years and half or longer. I'm not even two years yet...

Overall, I just taper if symptoms are manageable, an I listen to my body.

I hope you are doing well.

Take care my friend....

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

6 hours ago, Raymond said:

@Johan1233 ... hello...on my journey, I only waited until I felt better before stabilizing and waves were manageable. In my first months, I waited 7 months before doing my first 1.5% cut. It was followed by 4 cuts. Then, I hit another bad wave at month 10 where old symptoms returned, so I hold for 6 months. Then, I reduced tiny percentage each month until I did another 1.5% reduction. At month 21, I hit another wave but not bad. Im currently at month 22 and I did a tiny .25% cut. I have been feeling like 80% better, but still having issues with cortisol. Some days, I can sleep until 630am, but other days I still continue to wake up at 530am in my 22 months journey. I probably still have like 7 symptoms and they do not appear all at once.

I feel that symptoms are weaker, but I still struggles in waves. I have read stories where people kind of stabilize more to w normal stage after two years and half or longer. I'm not even two years yet...

Overall, I just taper if symptoms are manageable, an I listen to my body.

I hope you are doing well.

Take care my friend....

Hey Raymond, good to hear from you. From what you have just said I think that was really sensible.

I was in a place a few weeks ago where I contemplated a reduction due to feeling generally pretty good half of the time.

But part of me wanted more stability

I guess the urge to come of these drugs is too strong

Thanks mate

Lexapro:

Aug 2023 – Lexapro 5mg

Jan 2024 – Lexapro 20mg

Jun 2024 – Lexapro 17.5mg (Kept tapering down in 2.5mg increments till Aug)

Aug 2024 – Lexapro 2.5mg (Withdrawal hit after stopping 2.5mg)

Oct 2024 – Lexapro 5mg

Jan 2025 – Lexapro 1mg, 1.25mg, 1.5mg, 2mg (Drs orders back reaction)

Feb 2025 – Lexapro 1.5mg 

Sept 2025 – Stabilized

Dec 2025 – Back in WD

 

Omeprazole:

?? June 2024 – 20mg

08 Mar 2025 – Stopped

14 Mar 2025 – 20mg

05 April 2025 – Brand swap

Start Sept - 15mg (2 week taper)

End Sept 2025 - 10mg (By end of Sept)

05 Feb 2026 – Brand swap 

 

Supplements:

Fish Oil - AM High DHA & EPA

Loratadine Am 

Magnesium Glycinate pm 1,000mg

 

 

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17 hours ago, Johan1233 said:

Hey Raymond, good to hear from you. From what you have just said I think that was really sensible.

I was in a place a few weeks ago where I contemplated a reduction due to feeling generally pretty good half of the time.

But part of me wanted more stability

I guess the urge to come of these drugs is too strong

Thanks mate

I'm in the same boat as you. I want more stability, but when I feel good, I just reduced again. We definitely wants to come off these drugs. Even at the dose I am, in good days, I feel a lot better than being on this drug. So, I'm still struggling to either hold for more stability or continue going down slowly to come off. I definitely think we all want to come off right away, but avoid symptoms...

I might hold for another month and see if my mornings gets better. I only struggling from 5am to 10am. After that, it gets better, but still, I want to feel like a normal human again..

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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09/16/2026- 22 months, small nocturnal panic, woke up few times, couldn't sleep past 5am again...

In the past three days, I went back to wake up 530am and woke few times during the night. I woke up with a mild headache pressure that went away as soon as I opened my eyes.

Last night, I had a small one second mild nocturnal panic attack. This time, it did not caused me fear or anxiety as it used to. This is good. I went back to sleep right away, but woke up few times during the night.

Currently, just feel with energy, but blah sensation, lack of motivation, desire to go back to sleep, but can't sleep, and I hope I get to concentrate at work. If it's sunny, I will probably work from my hammock where it is quiet and relaxing.....

Let see how I end up and I hope for more stability.

In the name of Jesus Christ, we will heal ...

08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg

12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).09/01/26 - .0698g (4.66mg, .29%).

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