1 hour ago, Sandnit said:

Thanks my friend! @Fullhealing That revolving door description really makes sense. It seems like every time the symptoms come around again, each round feels slightly different somehow. Some things seem less intense, while others suddenly pop back up again, which can really mess with your head and make you question the progress.

So yes, I'm trying not to read too much into every change and just allow it and carry on ...but that is really hard at the moment.... Hopefully this revolving door decides to throw me straight into a nice window for a while soon;)! Better days will come!!

I know, it's tough, it plays on our minds but the more aware we are the less room there is for its tricks, it's a process we continue to learn together.

Keep your great mindset, the revolving door will surely throw a blessed window just a little further on 🤍

Edited August 4Aug 4 by Fullhealing

@Sandnit , sorry things have intensified again, but yeah your correct when you say old symptoms seamed to come back. I havehad that experience during my recovery, just when you think a system is gone it decides to show its ugly face again. But I see you have been working really hard on letting the emotions come, and letting them exist, the more you try to fight them the more changelings they become, it's in tough at first, but the more you practice at just letting it be the easier it gets. Sandnit you are doing amazing, patience and time my friend, . Hugs for now, gotta get back to work, my breaks over. xxx Bernadette

19 hours ago, Sandnit said:

Just allowing it, not pulling at it and carrying on with my day. But it is hard atm

That is the way my friend. Hard to see progress on a day to day basis. It is hard however acceptance is a continued practice rather than something you master. You've got the right mindset.

14 minutes ago, Chippy said:

That is the way my friend. Hard to see progress on a day to day basis. It is hard however acceptance is a continued practice rather than something you master. You've got the right mindset.

@Chippy , thanks mate.... I'll keep practicing..... Lots of opportunities during these hard days to get practice.... All part of the process ...... Better days will come!!

Edited August 5Aug 5 by Sandnit

21 hours ago, Bernadette said:

But I see you have been working really hard on letting the emotions come, and letting them exist, the more you try to fight them the more changelings they become, it's in tough at first, but the more you practice at just letting it be the easier it gets. Sandnit you are doing amazing, patience and time my friend, . Hugs for now, gotta get back to work, my breaks over. xxx Bernadette

@Bernadette , Thank you so much for your support. I'll keep practicing. Praying and hoping for easier times tho

A slightly different day today @Chippy @Bernadette @Fullhealing . So far I haven't had the big anxiety spikes I had yesterday, which I'm grateful for. But I've had this really uncomfortable, almost surreal/film-like feeling for most of the day, like something is about to happen, that “impending doom” kind of feeling. It's hard to describe, just very unsettling and “blah”. Sound familiar?

I don't know this particular feeling as well as some of my other symptoms, so of course my mind wants to analyse it and figure out what it means . But I'm trying to practice what you all said: not reading too much into every change, not fighting it, just letting it exist and carrying on with my day..... Thanks all!

5 hours ago, Sandnit said:

A slightly different day today @Chippy @Bernadette @Fullhealing . So far I haven't had the big anxiety spikes I had yesterday, which I'm grateful for. But I've had this really uncomfortable, almost surreal/film-like feeling for most of the day, like something is about to happen, that “impending doom” kind of feeling. It's hard to describe, just very unsettling and “blah”. Sound familiar?

I don't know this particular feeling as well as some of my other symptoms, so of course my mind wants to analyse it and figure out what it means . But I'm trying to practice what you all said: not reading too much into every change, not fighting it, just letting it exist and carrying on with my day..... Thanks all!

This is good new, sounds like your system is settling and trying to find some stability. Your absolute right, don't over analyze it, your doing wonderful. Just let it come, and exit.. you are doing wonderful. When that window comes, hold on to that, because this is what you get to look forward to. Healing is happening.

13 hours ago, Sandnit said:

A slightly different day today @Chippy @Bernadette @Fullhealing . So far I haven't had the big anxiety spikes I had yesterday, which I'm grateful for. But I've had this really uncomfortable, almost surreal/film-like feeling for most of the day, like something is about to happen, that “impending doom” kind of feeling. It's hard to describe, just very unsettling and “blah”. Sound familiar?

I don't know this particular feeling as well as some of my other symptoms, so of course my mind wants to analyse it and figure out what it means . But I'm trying to practice what you all said: not reading too much into every change, not fighting it, just letting it exist and carrying on with my day..... Thanks all!

I and many others certainly know the feeling of impending doom @Sandnit this whole experience is surreal honestly, so out of base with reality.

Keep up the great work and separate yourself from the symptoms and don't fall into over-analysis which I know is easier said than done, it's all a chemical cloud that the mind can grasp and sort out anyway.

Very glad to hear about the slight reprieve.

You are coping amazing my friend, keep on 🤍

Thanks @Bernadette I really hope you're right. I certainly don't feel like my system is settling or finding stability at the moment ... In the contrary... I'm still dealing with lots of muscle twitching, early waking, waking up cold and then sweating, dizziness when standing up, and the worst in is that persistent anxious/“blah” feeling etc. But I also know that how intense things feel today doesn't necessarily tell me what comes next om what is happening underneath.... Better days will come!

Thanks @Fullhealing 🤍 jelps knowing you and others recognise this surreal/impending-doom feeling. Still lots of twitching, early waking, dizziness and that awful anxious “blah”, so I’ll keep practicing not analysing it and just carry on.... Hard though !! Hoping for great Windows for all of us!!

15 minutes ago, Sandnit said:

Still lots of twitching, early waking, dizziness and that awful anxious “blah”,

I'm sorry my friend, there with you on that too if it helps, all part of wd 📦 which will slowly fade on it's own time.

15 minutes ago, Sandnit said:

so I’ll keep practicing not analysing it and just carry on.... Hard though !!

Though as hell but we keep on practice 👊

15 minutes ago, Sandnit said:

Hoping for great Windows for all of us!!

Will come 🙏

1 hour ago, Fullhealing said:

Will come 🙏

@Fullhealing , I really hope so. The last few days, including today, have felt relentless and pretty much all day long. Before, I would usually get some relief towards the end of the day, but lately even that seems to be missing. So I could really use a bit of relief

52 minutes ago, Sandnit said:

So I could really use a bit of relief

Hope this comes very soon for you. The wavy days can feel brutal at times I know. Tomorrow is another day mate.

2 minutes ago, Chippy said:

Hope this comes very soon for you. The wavy days can feel brutal at times I know. Tomorrow is another day mate.

Thanks @Chippy , feels so stuck and forever at the moment.....

Just now, Sandnit said:

Thanks @Chippy , feels so stuck and forever at the moment.....

Pleasure mate. You are not stuck bud, just feels like it I know. We are all moving forwards using our best foot that day, you are too.

1 hour ago, Sandnit said:

@Fullhealing , I really hope so. The last few days, including today, have felt relentless and pretty much all day long. Before, I would usually get some relief towards the end of the day, but lately even that seems to be missing. So I could really use a bit of relief

I know it frustrating @Sandnit but windows always come unfortunately there are no patterns we can really rely on as it constantly changing.

there will be much harder periods that we learn to accept and navigate with but over time as the system adjusts so will the windows grow.

Time my friend, only time.

Hang in there, you are tough!

34 minutes ago, Chippy said:

Pleasure mate. You are not stuck bud, just feels like it I know. We are all moving forwards using our best foot that day, you are too.

Thanks Bud @Chippy deep down i know that better days are coming eventually but at the moment it just feel different again from before...feels scary. But its normal that symptoms evolve / change, feel different right?

Edited August 6Aug 6 by Sandnit

Small update. Yesterday was another difficult day with the persistent anxiety/impending doom feeling and that strange feeling in my head.

After around 8 PM things eased quite a bit though, and I actually felt fairly okay for the rest of the evening. Grateful for the short relief.

This morning the unpleasant anxious/bleh feeling is back again :(

17 minutes ago, Sandnit said:

Small update. Yesterday was another difficult day with the persistent anxiety/impending doom feeling and that strange feeling in my head.

After around 8 PM things eased quite a bit though, and I actually felt fairly okay for the rest of the evening. Grateful for the short relief.

This morning the unpleasant anxious/bleh feeling is back again :(

So glad you had a break yesterday but sorry for the rough morning @Sandnit it's tough!

keep doing your best not to get sucked in during the hard times and draw strength from the moments of relief.

Remember, it's not you, it's wild chemicals in an unregulated system, over time the windows grow.

Keep up, you are coping great!!

1 hour ago, Sandnit said:

Small update. Yesterday was another difficult day with the persistent anxiety/impending doom feeling and that strange feeling in my head.

After around 8 PM things eased quite a bit though, and I actually felt fairly okay for the rest of the evening. Grateful for the short relief.

This morning the unpleasant anxious/bleh feeling is back again :(

Love you get some relief in the evening my friend! Some good news there for sure. The morning can be so tough I know, you have this however, just one little step at a time mate.

@Fullhealing and @Chippy ,
I’m trying to hold onto the bigger picture. I actually had a very long and difficult wave from around February to June 2025, even though by then I had already been holding at 4.5 mg for about 10 months. That wave eventually passed and was followed by a really long and good/stable period.

So I’ve seen from my own history that even when it feels like I’m stuck for months, I’m not. I’m trying to remember that now and just take it one little step at a time.

At the moment I’m struggling with this really weird kind of anxiousness together with strange head feelings. I don’t think I’ve experienced it quite like this in previous waves, so I have to admit it scares me.

Thanks for always being there

1 hour ago, Sandnit said:

@Fullhealing and @Chippy ,
I’m trying to hold onto the bigger picture. I actually had a very long and difficult wave from around February to June 2025, even though by then I had already been holding at 4.5 mg for about 10 months. That wave eventually passed and was followed by a really long and good/stable period.

So I’ve seen from my own history that even when it feels like I’m stuck for months, I’m not. I’m trying to remember that now and just take it one little step at a time.

At the moment I’m struggling with this really weird kind of anxiousness together with strange head feelings. I don’t think I’ve experienced it quite like this in previous waves, so I have to admit it scares me.

Thanks for always being there

I get it, our mind to begin with is on alert but really, any symptom under the sun is possible as every tiny part of the body is strongly affected by these chemicals, I sure see it on myself and on many others.

Just a nother bump in the road that you will pass @Sandnit you have a good strong mindset, you got it!!

@Chippy @Fullhealing , still in the trenches and had an awful night. Atm it is relentless.

Question, is there anything in van do to help the process? Did you use any supplements during withdrawal/recovery that you genuinely felt were helpful, or did you find it better to keep things as simple as possible and just give the body time? Last thing is want to do is unsettle things even more.

My previous waves eventually passed without me doing anything special or taking supplements, so I know that time and patience are probably the most important things..... This wave is taking longer than any previous waves I had and it is making me doubt and scared.

4 hours ago, Sandnit said:

Question, is there anything in van do to help the process? Did you use any supplements during withdrawal/recovery that you genuinely felt were helpful, or did you find it better to keep things as simple as possible and just give the body time? Last thing is want to do is unsettle things even more.

My previous waves eventually passed without me doing anything special or taking supplements, so I know that time and patience are probably the most important things..... This wave is taking longer than any previous waves I had and it is making me doubt and scared

I’m sorry you’re still in depths @Sandnit. I think time, patience and healthy living to the extent possible are really the key here. Most people don’t report much, if any, benefit from supplements and of course if you’re sensitive supplements can make you worse. Luke has a good post about supplements in WD here: Medications, Supplements and Other Substances in Withdrawal.

Your body knows how to sort this out for you. Keep up the faith 💪🏼💜.

@Fullhealing @Chippy @SarahMc ,Small update. After a really difficult morning, things suddenly became noticeably calmer around early afternoon and I’ve actually been feeling pretty good for the last few hours. Really grateful for this relief ❤️

One thing I noticed, which also happened during a previous window, is that my stomach/gut suddenly became quite active and a little sore at the same time. Almost feels like my gut is waking up again when my system settles down a bit.

Not trying to analyse or predict anything from it though. Just enjoying these better hours while they’re here. Thank you for your support

Edited August 8Aug 8 by Sandnit