10 minutes ago, Chippy said:

Hey B I know mate you have been through so much, wish I could do more for you, and it breaks my heart truly it does. I have everything crossed RI will given you the crutch you need to start getting stable. Till then as you and we now say, plod on......

Thanks @Chippy Very MUCH appreciated, you are as sound as a pound. YES it's frustrating when we can't flick

a magic switch for such good good people suffering these horrible drug problems. WE ALL know this, and as you

know is so hard not to be able to comfort them instantly back to health. Your kind words mean ALL though BUD

Take care, B.

4 minutes ago, NT1100B said:

Your kind words mean ALL though BUD

You being here means the world to us, wish you didn't need to be, but given the circumstances it's great to have you back bud.

19 hours ago, NT1100B said:

BUT I was in a way naive ,thinking of it as just a sleeping pill. Banging my head against the wall now for not researching it.

We all were. Try not to beat yourself up about it- most of us only found this information when really badly harmed and desperately and repeatedly searching for it.

If you just look up these drugs without adding all the "harmed buzzwords" ie. you just google "mirtazapine side effects" you just get a list of benign ones.

It's deliberately not easy to find this stuff out until it has happened.

It's not your fault, and it's none of ours either.

8 hours ago, Luke said:

We all were. Try not to beat yourself up about it- most of us only found this information when really badly harmed and desperately and repeatedly searching for it.

If you just look up these drugs without adding all the "harmed buzzwords" ie. you just google "mirtazapine side effects" you just get a list of benign ones.

It's deliberately not easy to find this stuff out until it has happened.

It's not your fault, and it's none of ours either.

Exactly....I took oxazepam and didn't know it was a benzo or even understood what that meant....I just wanted sleep. When that didn't work, I took zopiclone having no idea it was a hypnotic....just insane... I trusted the doctor.

8 hours ago, Luke said:

It's deliberately not easy to find this stuff out until it has happened.

Thanks Luke, yes that's exactly what happened with that one, to an EXTENT, desperation was the MAIN culprit.

Keep plodding Bud.

54 minutes ago, LostinCanada said:

I trusted the doctor.

@LostinCanada That's the BIG folly LIC, as we ALL now know , too be honest I am now deliberately evading the

doctor....keeping away and ignoring them. Next time I will ring them is Jan next year for another sick note. Fit note

they call them in the UK now???????? Anyway a bit better day today.....bonus, because tomorrow will be another

poor one I can almost bet.

Still on 4.37mg and will see how it goes, lifting it a bit if necessary, hell I aren't very good at spelling, using spell check

for some fairly simple words, should have paid more attention at school. But yes I think that's maybe a minor glitch

compared to the psychological f*** up we are in now, we have to become drug scientists with brain analysing skills,

just to try and untangle ourselves from this brain destroying drug induced living nightmare.

Overthinking with ME, is a big problem.....drug induced mainly, but have been a bit that way most of my life. But on

drugs for 25 years, with a LOT of alcohol in my earlier years, it was just the IN thing back then. Surprised I am still alive

to be honest. So yes been in a LOT of scrapes in life.....but NOTHING....NOTHING compared to this MIRTAZAPINE living HELL.

Like everyone else on here, UNIMAGINABLE how we could be landed in such an unbelievable situation, TRAPPED by a

drug. Now I was on the phone to the DWP guy earlier this week, and we were talking about psych drugs, and he said

the Japanese used them as a torture devise in WW2, now whether that's true or not I don't know. But WE can easily see

the possibility of it. Anyway I am getting a bit morbid with that, so let's just concentrate on getting BETTER.

Soon be Christmas again, and ANOTHER year gone, the long days living like a hermit have certainly not slowed time

down, I just have a ROUTINE and it just goes, very rare when time drags, which is a bit unusual given my circumstances.

Oh well I will wrap this up, hoping everyone can find a bit of self accepting peace.

Take care all, B.

45 minutes ago, NT1100B said:

hoping everyone can find a bit of self accepting peace.

We are going to be okay. I can't allow myself to believe in anything but a win. Hugs and love. 💯

@NT1100B B. It’s great to hear you are still alive and kicking. Sounds like it’s still a struggle for you . I didn’t read all of your most recent thread. I’m having tough time between meds and life’s stresses. Keep us posted. I’ll check in on you once in a while now that you’re back here.

Pokey

Nice to see you back here @NT1100B . Often wondered how you were going.

I hear you re time not slowing down.

14 hours ago, NT1100B said:

I just have a ROUTINE and it just goes, very rare when time drags, which is a bit unusual given my circumstances.

I hear you B. I am the same. Days fly by. A blessing I think. Routine is key.

9 hours ago, Tracey said:

I hear you re time not slowing down.

Thanks @Tracey good on you. I have a niece called Tracy, no E, well not that I know of anyway. I hope you are as good

as you can be. So yes this is how bad I am, Tracy has had 2 boys, eldest over 3 and I haven't seen either, just haven't had the

motivation, HOW crazy is that, both nieces KNOW my condition, and understand. What a living hell we are in, and NOT by choice.

So yes hopefully one day, of course they won't understand yet.....how far does your memory go back, fragments below 15.

Stay strong Tracey.....stay safe, B.