10 hours ago, Its-me-Rosie said:

passion flower has also been used in benzo withdrawal trials to aid sleep, 

Hey @Its-me-Rosie Very sorry to hear you are in a wave again Rosie🤬hate them with a vengeance.

I am afraid I tried passion flower and it had opposite affect, WIDE awake. Same with all other natural remedies.

I might try melatonin I will see, just got 1 hour sleep last night. I hope your wave soon goes Rosie, wishing you

all the very best.

Take great care,      B.🙏🤞❤️

1 hour ago, gardengirl2 said:

See if this helps at all, even when you wake up at those ungodly hours. Be gentle with yourself, friend.

Hi @gardengirl2 How you keeping? I hope you are doing OK. Thanks ever so much GG, I have tried it to

no avail, I feel it's the EVIL PWD and until that has gone I just have to suffer. Not good but I keep plodding.

Take great care Jamie and please stay safe.        B.🙏🤞💙 

10 hours ago, Luke said:

I am not fully recovered, but I am now clearly recovering all the time.

Thanks @Luke That's reassuring to hear that you are getting better Bud, keep plodding my good man.

Take care,       B.🤞👍 

7 hours ago, Pokey449 said:

Greetings B. Have you considered a session with Horowitz?  Seems it might be time for some expert learned advice???

Thanks @Pokey449 but can't afford it, I hope you are doing better Bud.

Take great care,       B.🙏

7 hours ago, cheeky said:

love you my friend 🙏❤️🤴

Thanks @cheeky Very much appreciated, yes I do know things can change fast, but boy oh boy, when we

are in the lowest of low waves, it really does play HAVOCK with ones mind. I hope you are doing OK Cheeky

teatime I see in AUS and 27c a bit warmer than here at the minute 3c. Thanks and wishing you all the best.

Take great care,       B.🙏🤞❤️

8 hours ago, cheeky said:

love you my friend 🙏❤️🤴

Thanks @cheeky Very much appreciated, yes I do know things can change fast, but boy oh boy, when we

are in the lowest of low waves, it really does play HAVOCK with ones mind. I hope you are doing OK Cheeky

teatime I see in AUS and 27c a bit warmer than here at the minute 3c. Thanks and wishing you all the best.

Take great care,       B.🙏🤞❤️

Morning all, well awoke on a 0 after 1 hours sleep, definitely getting worse is this🤬 I have got my online

food shop done for Saturday morning delivery, so that is out of the way. So going back to bed for an hour

or 2 meditation, raining heavy out so give the walk a miss, catch you later.

Take care,      B.

9 minutes ago, NT1100B said:

Morning all, well awoke on a 0 after 1 hours sleep, definitely getting worse is this🤬 I have got my online

food shop done for Saturday morning delivery, so that is out of the way. So going back to bed for an hour

or 2 meditation, raining heavy out so give the walk a miss, catch you later.

Take care,      B.

Morning B I’m so sorry to read about your sleep my friend! 😞 Hope you get a few more zzzzs now. 
 

It’s testing you this for sure. Evil protracted wd! @poulette38 says she thinks it is a fight for good against evil. I agree with her. 
 

As ever your resolve is incredible. Your strength in all this is incredible. Wish I could take some of the load from you bud. If there is ANYTHING I can do please make sure you ask. I mean it. ANYTHING!

 

Time will see you right as you know, but I know in the depths of this, that is hard to believe. But it will mate!

 

Chippy

2 hours ago, NT1100B said:

Thanks @cheeky Very much appreciated, yes I do know things can change fast, but boy oh boy, when we

are in the lowest of low waves, it really does play HAVOCK with ones mind. I hope you are doing OK Cheeky

teatime I see in AUS and 27c a bit warmer than here at the minute 3c. Thanks and wishing you all the best.

Take great care,       B.🙏🤞❤️

Hang in there B , we're here for you ❤️🙏

2 hours ago, Chippy said:

Time will see you right as you know, but I know in the depths of this, that is hard to believe. But it will mate!

 

Chippy

Thanks @Chippy very much appreciated, just a waiting game mate, just hope patience wins out.

Take care,        B.

2 hours ago, NT1100B said:

Thanks @Pokey449 but can't afford it, I hope you are doing better Bud.

Take great care,       B.🙏

 

I don't think you're missing out.

 

You're 14 months off. There's nothing you can do but give it more time, or start experimenting with more drugs.

 

1. is shit but it does lead to recovery for most people, and you've already put plenty of time in

2. is incredibly risky

 

Other than 1 & 2 above there's not a lot of advice he can give you. Much of what he initially learned came from online support groups.

 

I believe that you will recover in time.

Where are you, Mr. B? Checking in to see how you're doing this morning. I always get on the site with hope and a prayer that you've had a better morning. I hope all is well with you. I took you and all who are suffering on this site to Mass with me today. I will be like the guy in the bible who goes to his neighbor at midnight for bread to serve his guests, but the neighbor is in bed. He only gets up because the guy keeps knocking. Here we are Jesus! Knocking away. Jesus, I trust in you. 🙏❣️🌻

45 minutes ago, gardengirl2 said:

Where are you, Mr. B?

Hi @gardengirl2 Still in this horrible S**T hole.

Take care,      B.

Morning all, back of my 3am zombie walk, 2c but dry, lethargic as hell, death warmed up. So awoke after

3 hours broken sleep on a zero, still on a zero now, what more can I say....

Take care all,         B. 

Thinking about you @NT1100B…having a couple rough days here…trying not to fight it….it is what it is….if only we could sleep…..I can’t imagine what it would feel like to get 8 hours of bliss. Something to look forward to. Sending hugs. ❤️🙏

Hey B, 

You've come so far and your windows aren't far away . Some people get none then one day it lifts , your going to get there . Keep plodding 🤴🙏

23 minutes ago, cheeky said:

Hey B, 

You've come so far and your windows aren't far away . Some people get none then one day it lifts , your going to get there . Keep plodding 🤴🙏

This B! Rosie said something really good last night to me. She said that B may well be recovering more than her as his symptoms are so strong. Then all of a sudden may wake up in a window and never leave it.

Its true.
 

I believe everyone heals. I also believe the worse symptoms are signs of healing. 

 

Take heart my friend 

Morning B. 
 

I’ve just caught up on your thread. This wave will pass my friend. I know you can’t see it at times but it will. This wave will break on the shore and things will ease for you. You’re doing all the right things B and you’ve got a great mindset, just keep on plodding, one day at a time and you’ll get there. Brighter days are coming B! 
 

Take care 

 

Nick 

It’s true B

i have read Baylissas book about 100 times and she has some very intense waves lasting a long time at almost 2 years out…

one day she just didn’t  have another wave and it’s over. Gone. Done,

her nervous system has levelled out.

 

you may well heal before others who are having windows. I’ve had some good windows, in December I felt almost healed and haven’t had a window that good since then. It makes it more manageable for sure! It gives me hope, and makes it bearable to get the windows BUT it doesn’t mean my healing will be quicker than yours.

 

yours may be done soon,

I can only compare it to when I had my first son. I had one long contraction that lasted for 3 hours and then he appeared.

the pain was agony, I couldn’t even take any pain relief it all happened so quickly i couldn’t even walk to the hospital I had to be carried everywhere my body was just constantly contracting and vomiting!

other women have these on and off…for days on end….it lingers, the constructions come and go over days…

 

mine was relentless and constant but my body got me to what it needed to do quite quickly compared to most others. Maybe your body is doing the same.

Working overtime.

 

hope that’s not too gruesome a comparison! But it’s the only way I can understand it, your body knows what it needs to do and it’s hell bent on doing it and once it’s done you’ll never look back ♥️ 

Ps. I think try the melatonin, you can order from an online pharmacy your GP likely won’t prescribe. I got mine online: start with a small 0.5mg dose as they come in 3mg tablets usually.

its worth trying.

sorry passion flower didn’t  help you. 
camomile used to help me but I’ve noticed recently it makes me dizzy and woozy so thats ones now off my list.

 

big hugs 

20 hours ago, gardengirl2 said:

I always get on the site with hope and a prayer that you've had a better morning

I do the same! Keeping You in my prayers B.! 🙏🙏🙏

Sending you strength, hope and hugs B. And a silver thread to clutch. 

 

I am going with what Chippy says about strong symptoms mean healing. From a naturopathic perspective, the fact that a person reacts with symptoms means they have enough vital force/ energy to mount a response. Your body is doing its best to heal, trust and love it. 

 

You are resting when meditating and helping your brain. May not feel like it but there will be good things happening. Makes us feel safer and gets that prefrontal cortex happening. 

 

Stay warm 🔥

21 hours ago, Its-me-Rosie said:

But it’s the only way I can understand it, your body knows what it needs to do and it’s hell bent on doing it and once it’s done you’ll never look back ♥️ 

Thanks @Its-me-Rosie well described, nothing more natural than childbirth, BUT we are in a different ball game

with this s**t, I have had both shoulders dislocated over the years, one woman likened the pain to giving birth to

twins. Now obviously I know nothing about that, BUT it is painful.

 

Now I have a replacement hip, again first few weeks painful, but I would rather go through 20 hip replacements than

this crap. The thing is it's almost incomparable, one girl said like your worst hangover X a 1000, that's more accurate.

Because that's what it it is POISONED. Evil running through our veins.

 

Now I was thinking about it yesterday, and HOW can these drugs ever do any good??  When first ingested the brain

knows it's a foreign entity, and immediately compensates by retuning to homeostasis, yes, so how the hell can it do

any good? All it has done has disrupted a very very complex chemical balance. So when we continue doing this for

however long, the brain keeps over compensating for this unbalance.

 

Take the poison away and here we are, in this indescribable living hell. No 2 people are alike though and genetics

play a huge role, so symptoms are all variable among ALL of us, now some of us are unlucky to land in the extreme

nasty symptoms, lasting a long long time. This is where I am afraid I have fit in. Now that lot Rosie you probably think

is BS, so apologies for the wave rant. So back to you Rosie, I hope you very soon get back into a huge forever WINDOW. 

Take care and God Bless.         B.🙏🤞❤️

 

  

6 hours ago, Tracey said:

You are resting when meditating and helping your brain. May not feel like it but there will be good things happening. Makes us feel safer and gets that prefrontal cortex happening. 

 

Stay warm 🔥

Thanks @Tracey God Bless, I hope you are doing OK.🙏🤞

Take great care,       B.❤️

On 3/7/2026 at 4:03 AM, LostinCanada said:

Thinking about you @NT1100B…having a couple rough days here…trying not to fight it….it is what it is….if only we could sleep

Sending you strength @LostinCanada I sincerely hope you lift very soon LIC, stay strong.

Take great care and God Bless,        B.🙏🤞❤️💙