9 minutes ago, Beehive said:

@Wombat I had a good day yesterday strangely started to feel a bit more anxious in the evening. 6.00 here woke with slight fear and the horrible thoughts of I'm never going to get better this is it ...so hard to deal with this at times

Dear @Beehive so sorry, same boat atm.. let's continue to tell the truth of this, these are strong chemical thoughts, an illusion that feels real and that's it.

How hard it is, I know, but the proof of reality is that we are capable of facing this.

Keep being strong and brave and may you see significant relief as the day progresses.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by Fullhealing

@Fullhealing Thank you ,sorry to hear you are the same .Just so cruel at times . Hoping you are not suffering too long today . We've got this we can do it ...hang in there 🙏

59 minutes ago, Beehive said:

I'm never going to get better this is it

I tell that to myself all the time. ☹️

@Wombat Its awful how those thoughts can so easily trigger you and they certainly do me ..that one in particular can send me into a spin .The mind is such a powerful thing . So convincing. Hope you are doing ok

2 hours ago, Beehive said:

@Wombat I had a good day yesterday strangely started to feel a bit more anxious in the evening. 6.00 here woke with slight fear and the horrible thoughts of I'm never going to get better this is it ...so hard to deal with this at times

glad you had a good day.

try to remember you are not the emotions and thoughts, accept them but don't agree with them and believe them.

@Lighty Thank you it's just so difficult when you are in the thick of it...hope you are ok

@Lighty just wondering you said if it's a certain level you surrender to it ...in what way do you do that ...just lay there ?

Definitely need more practice of not allowing the second fear because at the moment I'm rubbish at it ! ...

2 hours ago, Beehive said:

never going to get better this is it ...so hard to deal with this at times

You will! I have this thought alot when I wake. Just feels endless sometimes. I just reset, accept and trust the process. Our bodies are amazing. xxx

@Chippy Thanks 😊

31 minutes ago, Beehive said:

@Lighty just wondering you said if it's a certain level you surrender to it ...in what way do you do that ...just lay there ?

by surrender I mean realizing you can't do anything, you just ride your symptoms, you let them do as they want, instead of resisting them and being 'oh no i can't have this, this is so bad oh no', you surrender to your symptoms and just let them happen, you ride with the symptoms, it's hard fully explain, you flow with your symptoms instead of trying to deny them and panicking and thinking how bad it is.

in a way you do just lay there and let anything that needs to happen happen, obviously if you can watch tv or semi watch tv some distractions sure you can do that, but mostly just letting the symptoms take control as they want, even if it's physical stuff like pacing and involuntary movements, you just let them control your body as they want.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by Lighty

@Lighty I suppose its Claire weekes ..Float...definitely second fear is playing its part today ,must be nice to be able to fully surrender .Still holding on to whatever I'm holding onto ...Survival mode I assume !

1 minute ago, Beehive said:

@Lighty I suppose its Claire weekes ..Float...definitely second fear is playing its part today ,must be nice to be able to fully surrender .Still holding on to whatever I'm holding onto ...Survival mode I assume !

surrender doesn't mean it becomes pleasant, but it becomes more bearable and the time passes faster, which is what you want in withdrawal, to pass the time faster and not 10x slower.

Thanks @Lighty This is definitely a pacing one can't settle feel so restless like im about to burst .

11 minutes ago, Beehive said:

Thanks @Lighty This is definitely a pacing one can't settle feel so restless like im about to burst .

exactly, just surrender to the pacing, let your body pace however it needs to.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by Lighty

Have just paced up and down the garden then went up and down the stairs..heart beating fast and out of breath lol

Just now, Beehive said:

Have just paced up and down the garden then went up and down the stairs..heart beating fast and out of breath lol

yeah you can even laugh at it, I laughed at my involuntary movements a few times, you can make it a funny thing.

So if its pacing it needs probably sitting and not moving is the wrong thing to do 🤔

Just now, Beehive said:

So if its pacing it needs probably sitting and not moving is the wrong thing to do 🤔

yeah you listen to your body and do as it needs, if you need to pace, walk around your house, if it needs rest, you rest, the whole point that if you don't listen to your body, your body will force you to do it in a much harsher way, compared to just listening to your body.

Thank you I think its sinking in now ...I will think of it like ...Simon says...if you are familiar with that . Rather than sitting and waiting for it to pass ,I will take action . Thank you so much for being there 🤗

5 minutes ago, Beehive said:

Thank you I think its sinking in now ...I will think of it like ...Simon says...if you are familiar with that . Rather than sitting and waiting for it to pass ,I will take action . Thank you so much for being there 🤗

again depends how severe your symptoms are, if they are below 50% severe (or a different line, depending how much you tolerate) you just accept your symptoms and give them space, the moment they become severe, you just act in a simon says way and surrender to them.

3 hours ago, Wombat said:

I tell that to myself all the time. ☹️

I say that too 😞

@cheeky isn't it awful I believe we are all intelligent people on here we know what's what ...we know what's real and what's not ,but this withdrawal makes you all the things you aren't. It steals your rationality ,it makes you feel scared and vulnerable and that is the worst feeling

46 minutes ago, Beehive said:

@cheeky isn't it awful I believe we are all intelligent people on here we know what's what ...we know what's real and what's not ,but this withdrawal makes you all the things you aren't. It steals your rationality ,it makes you feel scared and vulnerable and that is the worst feeling

Your 100% on that . This experience while going through a wave makes you a completely different person . The fear that it brings is like no other . I feel like a vulnerable baby that needs reassurance and someone to tell me i"it's gonna be okay". I feel stuck in a body that I have no control over and I always think I'm the worst case and will have to live my remaining life " the sick mum" !

Not feeling safe in your own body is the hardest thing . I'm so sorry your dealing with this too , my heart goes out to you . Have you got anybody to support you ?

@cheeky I couldn't have said that any better spot on ...yes I do have support thankfully...wishing you good healing