March 5Mar 5 31 minutes ago, Fullhealing said: I'm just pissed, letting off some steam I guess and truly sorry for the negative tone, can't seem to be on the positive atm. @Fullhealing You're entitled to feel pissed off and I understand the negative tone you mention — it doesn't come across negatively, more like someone who's having a hard time of it — which you are. What's white night? 🤗 Link to SA Profile: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/32414-catbird-introduction-a-long-and-winding-road/1996 Commenced on Sertraline 50 - 100mg. Many ADs trialled -Fluoxetine 20 mg, Paroxetine 20mg, Venlafaxine 75mg, Escitalopram 10 - 20mg, Vortioxetine 20mg, Bupropion 150mg. 2019 Recommenced Escitalopram 2022 Mirtazapine 30mg - Rapid taper. Amitriptyline 20mgCURRENT MEDICATIONS: Escitalopram taper from ~ 10mg commenced 2024, Amitriptyline 20mg at night, Diazepam 7.5mg total per day, Baclofen 10mg morning, 10mg lunch and 20mg night, Polaramine 2mg at night, Ketamine troche 25mg per day (Ceased early September 2025), Valsartan 160mg evening, HRT (Oestrogen 25mcg/day) ESCITALOPRAM TAPER: 5 April 2025 - started holding at 1.516mg. Escitalopram taper resumed July 2025; End Aug 1.364; End Sept 1.228; End Oct 1.145; End Nov 1.1 Early Dec 1.11; End Dec 1.082; 2026 End Jan 1.047; Feb 6 1.030; Feb 20 1.014; April 10 1.012; May 3 1.014; May 11 1.010 & still holding Supplements: Mg++ glycinate, Omega 3s, Curcumin. Vit D3/K2 spray, Vitamin B12 spray, chelated zinc.
March 5Mar 5 Author 29 minutes ago, Catbird said: @Fullhealing You're entitled to feel pissed off and I understand the negative tone you mention — it doesn't come across negatively, more like someone who's having a hard time of it — which you are. What's white night? 🤗 Thanks @Catbird means sleepless night, thought it's global term 🤦 Edited March 5Mar 5 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 Thinking of you @Fullhealing all this will be a distant memory one day! Praying for peace in your region. Xxx I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 5Mar 5 Author 3 hours ago, Chippy said: Thinking of you @Fullhealing all this will be a distant memory one day! Praying for peace in your region. Xxx Amen to both @Chippy thanks a lot! 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 Author Update 19:00pm So what's been brewing since yesterday.. Night, sky trembled so there was barely any sleep but around 6 I managed to catch up a few hours so that was very helpful. Woke up with a relatively friendly mind, although I was still restless I managed to channel it into house/garden chores which was good. Throughout the day there were two flare-ups but it passed quite quickly, it's possible that a positive pattern is forming since the waves, at least it seems, are getting shorter. Still no work, everything is closed except for essentials but I will see this as an opportunity to reorganize, any additional pressure would take me to the edge. Current symptoms: still some chest pressure with restlessness, head pressure with dry sinuses, apart from that there are the regulars which are tinnitus although less loud, food sensitivities and digestive problems, twitching and allergy attacks but it's tolerable as for now. 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 40 minutes ago, Fullhealing said: Update 19:00pm So what's been brewing since yesterday.. Night, sky trembled so there was barely any sleep but around 6 I managed to catch up a few hours so that was very helpful. Woke up with a relatively friendly mind, although I was still restless I managed to channel it into house/garden chores which was good. Throughout the day there were two flare-ups but it passed quite quickly, it's possible that a positive pattern is forming since the waves, at least it seems, are getting shorter. Still no work, everything is closed except for essentials but I will see this as an opportunity to reorganize, any additional pressure would take me to the edge. Current symptoms: still some chest pressure with restlessness, head pressure with dry sinuses, apart from that there are the regulars which are tinnitus although less loud, food sensitivities and digestive problems, twitching and allergy attacks but it's tolerable as for now. I'm very proud of you and how you are handling everything. Despite of what you country is going through, you are still managing everything as calm as possible... Keep praying for you and a soon recovery. I'm hoping to be on the same dose as you in the future. I believe my body will be feeling better at a lower dose, but I can't make changes yet...im waiting for the right moment... 08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).
March 5Mar 5 @Fullhealing So good to hear. You will pull through. No doubt at all. Shorter waves, able to engage in house work and gardening. Short up flairs… It sure looks like the rute I took. So importen to recognize these small improvements as they lead one forward. Your patients brought you here. You are doing the right things. How is the situation concerning the war in the area where you live? You wrote you run to the shelter. Are they bombing close to where you live? I hope this madness soon will end. 🙏💕 Edited March 5Mar 5 by Haa My Intro Topic on AR; 1997 - 2020 - Effexor XR and BusPar2017 - Current - Lamotrigine 100 mg (x2 Daily) 8am+6pm OxapaxHistory archived - Chippy 01 March 202621 Jan 2026 – 7,5mgx3=22.5 mg (+9.2%) 8am+4pm+10pm13 Marts 6,9+7,5+7,5=21.9mg26 Marts 6,9+6,9+7,5=21,3mg 01 May 6,75x2+7,5=21mg 1,4%25 May 6,75x2+7mg=20,5mg 2,3% LyricaHistory archived - Chippy 01 March 202628 July 2025 – current 28,2x= 56.4 mg (-0.70%) 8am+6pm Sertraline 08 Nov 2020 – 75mg 10pm04 Nov 2025 – 100mg 10pm08 Dec 2025 – 95mg 10pm05 Jan 2026 – 91mg 10pm11 Mar - 90,8mg 10pm15 Mar - 90mg 10pm24Apr - 89,88mg 10pm (-0,12mg/day)03May - 88,8mg23June - 88mg On hold06august 86mg
March 5Mar 5 Author 12 minutes ago, Raymond said: I'm very proud of you and how you are handling everything. Despite of what you country is going through, you are still managing everything as calm as possible... Keep praying for you and a soon recovery. I'm hoping to be on the same dose as you in the future. I believe my body will be feeling better at a lower dose, but I can't make changes yet...im waiting for the right moment... So kind of you @Raymond thanks a lot! I have no doubt in your abilities to handle this journey, you are doing great, you will get to the other side whenever you get there without setting a time, I cut back too quickly and paid a price for it so it is so good that you have a finger on the pulse and are attentive to your body, you know yourself best to know when the right time to cut back so just keep trusting yourself! 🙏 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 Author 29 minutes ago, Haa said: @Fullhealing So good to hear. You will pull through. No doubt at all. Shorter waves, able to engage in house work and gardening. Short up flairs… It sure looks like the rute I took. So importen to recognize these small improvements as they lead one forward. Your patients brought you here. You are doing the right things. How is the situation concerning the war in the area where you live? You wrote you run to the shelter. Are they bombing close to where you live? I hope this madness soon will end. 🙏💕 Thanks a lot @Haa you are so supportive 💞 appreciate you! You're right, it's so important to recognize the small improvements, there's a tendency to paint everything in black when in reality it's not, I'm trying my best to work on it, and it seems, at least for now, that it's bearing fruit. In terms of war, unfortunately we're in the center, close to Tel Aviv, so there's activity here, we're running to shelters quite a bit, there were bomb fragments here but no casualties at least in our area, thank God. And yes, we all also hope and pray that this madness will end, but that will only happen when the dictatorship there is completely destroyed, which means there's still time. I'm just hoping for as few casualties as possible on all fronts. 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 34 minutes ago, Fullhealing said: So kind of you @Raymond thanks a lot! I have no doubt in your abilities to handle this journey, you are doing great, you will get to the other side whenever you get there without setting a time, I cut back too quickly and paid a price for it so it is so good that you have a finger on the pulse and are attentive to your body, you know yourself best to know when the right time to cut back so just keep trusting yourself! 🙏 I think you just answered the question that I was going to ask you… I was going to ask if part of why you’re getting more windows is because your dose is lower now…But it sounds like you wish that you would’ve held at a different/higher dose to stabilize. Edited March 5Mar 5 by Finni For US members: Please report med to FDA Med Watch2017 (May) - Ativan .5 mg (3 x Daily) 2018 (Feb) - Mirtazapine 7.5 mg 2018 (May) - Ativan to Valium - Switch - Can’t Remember how long it took -tapered to 3 mg of Valium2024 (May) - Valium Tolerance2024 (2 Nov) - Completed taper off Valium 2024 (2 Nov) - Mirtazapine increased to 15 mg2025 (Feb) - Ativan 0.25 mg (3 x Daily) - Became Paradoxical - Started weaning got to 0.11mg2025 (Mar) - Ativan 0mg - CT In detox2025 (April) Started Depakote 1500mg - In detox2025 (April) - Depakote 500mg (2 x Daily) once home2025 (Aug) - Completed taper off Depakote2025 (Aug) - Akathisia surges throughout the day with calming in between2025 (Sept) - Gabapentin (Micro Dose) - Was calming at first and then became paradoxical so stop2025 (Oct) - Depakote - RI – (Two days of small dose) Became scared and stopped with WD & aka2025 (Oct) - Seroquel 50 mg XR – 1 Week - more and more activating and increased aka2025 (Oct) - Psychiatrist told me to stop it. But I took a few days of a smaller dose of IR then stopped - Not activating2025 (Nov) - Hydroxyzine 2.5mg - it was paradoxical so stopped2025 (1 Dec) - Mirtazapine 22.5mg - (2 Days) Was incredibly overstimulating started reducing to previous2025 (3 Dec) - Mirtazapine 18.75mg2025 (10 Dec) - Mirtazapine 16.87mg2025 (22 Dec) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (23Jan) - Mirtazapine 14.7mg2026 (23 Jan) - Mirtazapine 1mg Panic dose2026 (24 Jan) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (25 Feb) – Mirtazapine 14.7mg (-2%)2026 (18 Mar) - propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (21 Mar)- Mirtazapine- 15 mg accidentally in sleepy state2026 (22 Mar) - Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (more accurate scales) 2026 (29 April) Mirtazapine 14.7 mg/.1020 g (on suggestion of Horowitz) immediate intense symptoms2026 (30 April) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (.1026 g)2026 (23 May) propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (01 June) Mirtazapine 14.79 mgdose was 5 hours late2026 (22 July) Mirtazapine 14.76 mgIntense electric activation, muscle tightness, autonomic surges, terror followed 2026 (23 July) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg return
March 5Mar 5 Author 8 minutes ago, Finni said: I think you just answered the question that I was going to ask you… I was going to ask if part of why you’re getting more windows is because your dose was lower now…But it sounds like you wish that you would’ve held at a different/higher dose to stabilize. To be honest, I'm not sure, the lower doses are considered more brutal, but it seems that at this point, perhaps stabilization is evident.. maybe it's a combination of working on my mindset. Looking back, I should have waited more between cuts, on the other hand, it seems that the more my body cleanses, the more there is improvement, again, not really sure.. I just hope this isn't the calm before the storm.. 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 My Intro Topic on AR; 1997 - 2020 - Effexor XR and BusPar2017 - Current - Lamotrigine 100 mg (x2 Daily) 8am+6pm OxapaxHistory archived - Chippy 01 March 202621 Jan 2026 – 7,5mgx3=22.5 mg (+9.2%) 8am+4pm+10pm13 Marts 6,9+7,5+7,5=21.9mg26 Marts 6,9+6,9+7,5=21,3mg 01 May 6,75x2+7,5=21mg 1,4%25 May 6,75x2+7mg=20,5mg 2,3% LyricaHistory archived - Chippy 01 March 202628 July 2025 – current 28,2x= 56.4 mg (-0.70%) 8am+6pm Sertraline 08 Nov 2020 – 75mg 10pm04 Nov 2025 – 100mg 10pm08 Dec 2025 – 95mg 10pm05 Jan 2026 – 91mg 10pm11 Mar - 90,8mg 10pm15 Mar - 90mg 10pm24Apr - 89,88mg 10pm (-0,12mg/day)03May - 88,8mg23June - 88mg On hold06august 86mg
March 5Mar 5 Author 17 minutes ago, Haa said: Lovely @Haa ✨✨ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 5Mar 5 36 minutes ago, Fullhealing said: To be honest, I'm not sure, the lower doses are considered more brutal, but it seems that at this point, perhaps stabilization is evident.. maybe it's a combination of working on my mindset. Looking back, I should have waited more between cuts, on the other hand, it seems that the more my body cleanses, the more there is improvement, again, not really sure.. I just hope this isn't the calm before the storm.. I know there’s no way to really know for sure Thanks for answering 🩷 How long have you been holding? I’m not sure if I’m reading your signature correctly. Edited March 5Mar 5 by Finni For US members: Please report med to FDA Med Watch2017 (May) - Ativan .5 mg (3 x Daily) 2018 (Feb) - Mirtazapine 7.5 mg 2018 (May) - Ativan to Valium - Switch - Can’t Remember how long it took -tapered to 3 mg of Valium2024 (May) - Valium Tolerance2024 (2 Nov) - Completed taper off Valium 2024 (2 Nov) - Mirtazapine increased to 15 mg2025 (Feb) - Ativan 0.25 mg (3 x Daily) - Became Paradoxical - Started weaning got to 0.11mg2025 (Mar) - Ativan 0mg - CT In detox2025 (April) Started Depakote 1500mg - In detox2025 (April) - Depakote 500mg (2 x Daily) once home2025 (Aug) - Completed taper off Depakote2025 (Aug) - Akathisia surges throughout the day with calming in between2025 (Sept) - Gabapentin (Micro Dose) - Was calming at first and then became paradoxical so stop2025 (Oct) - Depakote - RI – (Two days of small dose) Became scared and stopped with WD & aka2025 (Oct) - Seroquel 50 mg XR – 1 Week - more and more activating and increased aka2025 (Oct) - Psychiatrist told me to stop it. But I took a few days of a smaller dose of IR then stopped - Not activating2025 (Nov) - Hydroxyzine 2.5mg - it was paradoxical so stopped2025 (1 Dec) - Mirtazapine 22.5mg - (2 Days) Was incredibly overstimulating started reducing to previous2025 (3 Dec) - Mirtazapine 18.75mg2025 (10 Dec) - Mirtazapine 16.87mg2025 (22 Dec) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (23Jan) - Mirtazapine 14.7mg2026 (23 Jan) - Mirtazapine 1mg Panic dose2026 (24 Jan) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (25 Feb) – Mirtazapine 14.7mg (-2%)2026 (18 Mar) - propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (21 Mar)- Mirtazapine- 15 mg accidentally in sleepy state2026 (22 Mar) - Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (more accurate scales) 2026 (29 April) Mirtazapine 14.7 mg/.1020 g (on suggestion of Horowitz) immediate intense symptoms2026 (30 April) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (.1026 g)2026 (23 May) propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (01 June) Mirtazapine 14.79 mgdose was 5 hours late2026 (22 July) Mirtazapine 14.76 mgIntense electric activation, muscle tightness, autonomic surges, terror followed 2026 (23 July) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg return
March 5Mar 5 Author 9 minutes ago, Finni said: I know there’s no way to really know for sure Thanks for answering 🩷 How long have you been holding? I’m not sure if I’m reading your signature correctly. Sure 🤗 not that long, 17 days but it was if I remember right the lowest percent so far. Adding: Nope, I'm wrong, 2 cuts before it was even lower.. Edited March 5Mar 5 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 6Mar 6 11 hours ago, Fullhealing said: Update 19:00pm So what's been brewing since yesterday.. Night, sky trembled so there was barely any sleep but around 6 I managed to catch up a few hours so that was very helpful. Woke up with a relatively friendly mind, although I was still restless I managed to channel it into house/garden chores which was good. Throughout the day there were two flare-ups but it passed quite quickly, it's possible that a positive pattern is forming since the waves, at least it seems, are getting shorter. Still no work, everything is closed except for essentials but I will see this as an opportunity to reorganize, any additional pressure would take me to the edge. Current symptoms: still some chest pressure with restlessness, head pressure with dry sinuses, apart from that there are the regulars which are tinnitus although less loud, food sensitivities and digestive problems, twitching and allergy attacks but it's tolerable as for now. @Fullhealing sounds like things are getting a little easy 😀 pleased to hear it. Got it crossed this is starting to turn a corner for you. Xxxx I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 6Mar 6 Author 9 hours ago, Chippy said: @Fullhealing sounds like things are getting a little easy 😀 pleased to hear it. Got it crossed this is starting to turn a corner for you. Xxxx Thank you @Chippy things have flipped again since but it is what it is and we must keep moving regardless.. 🤷 hopefully you day is going easy! Edited March 6Mar 6 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 6Mar 6 1 minute ago, Fullhealing said: Thank you @Chippy things have flipped again since but it is what it is and we must keep moving regardless.. 🤷 hopefully you day is going easy! Hope this eases again soon for you. xxxx I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 8Mar 8 Author Last days update Friday: night - sweat, nightmares, few awakenings, sinus pressure and extreme dry mouth. morning started with headaches/neck/shoulders/joint pains, heart palpitations, chest pain, body weakness, terrible digestion, depression along with flashes of fear/terror and extreme inner restlessness, extremely loud tinnitus, inability to tolerate any noise. In addition, excessive smoking, almost uncontrollable, began since the last three cuts along with other strange compolsive behaviours, a bit more than 3 months. Saturday: Night - disturbed sleep, still excessive sweating and several awakenings. During the day, still body weakness with muscle/joint pain, headache, tinnitus still very loud, irritable digestion, bloated stomach, allergies, dry sinuses, stuffy nose, rested most of the day, towards the end of the day the headache subsided. Mentally, depression including irrational fears, restlessness and irritability. reduced my smoking to at least half today, will try to continue that. Today 8:30 Woke up at 4.30, no physical flare-up atm although mentally still very restless along with loud tinnitus, irritable digestion and bloated stomach, allergies as well. Vitamins: Ferritin and vitamin D not yet in deficiency but at the very low limit, will start taking only iron+c and see how the body reacts. 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 8Mar 8 @Fullhealing so sorry you're struggling with such an array of WD symptoms. Sending you wishes you'll find some stability in the near future. Insomnia is such a cruel phenomenon 🤗🧡 Link to SA Profile: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/32414-catbird-introduction-a-long-and-winding-road/1996 Commenced on Sertraline 50 - 100mg. Many ADs trialled -Fluoxetine 20 mg, Paroxetine 20mg, Venlafaxine 75mg, Escitalopram 10 - 20mg, Vortioxetine 20mg, Bupropion 150mg. 2019 Recommenced Escitalopram 2022 Mirtazapine 30mg - Rapid taper. Amitriptyline 20mgCURRENT MEDICATIONS: Escitalopram taper from ~ 10mg commenced 2024, Amitriptyline 20mg at night, Diazepam 7.5mg total per day, Baclofen 10mg morning, 10mg lunch and 20mg night, Polaramine 2mg at night, Ketamine troche 25mg per day (Ceased early September 2025), Valsartan 160mg evening, HRT (Oestrogen 25mcg/day) ESCITALOPRAM TAPER: 5 April 2025 - started holding at 1.516mg. Escitalopram taper resumed July 2025; End Aug 1.364; End Sept 1.228; End Oct 1.145; End Nov 1.1 Early Dec 1.11; End Dec 1.082; 2026 End Jan 1.047; Feb 6 1.030; Feb 20 1.014; April 10 1.012; May 3 1.014; May 11 1.010 & still holding Supplements: Mg++ glycinate, Omega 3s, Curcumin. Vit D3/K2 spray, Vitamin B12 spray, chelated zinc.
March 8Mar 8 5 hours ago, Fullhealing said: Last days update Friday: night - sweat, nightmares, few awakenings, sinus pressure and extreme dry mouth. morning started with headaches/neck/shoulders/joint pains, heart palpitations, chest pain, body weakness, terrible digestion, depression along with flashes of fear/terror and extreme inner restlessness, extremely loud tinnitus, inability to tolerate any noise. In addition, excessive smoking, almost uncontrollable, began since the last three cuts along with other strange compolsive behaviours, a bit more than 3 months. Saturday: Night - disturbed sleep, still excessive sweating and several awakenings. During the day, still body weakness with muscle/joint pain, headache, tinnitus still very loud, irritable digestion, bloated stomach, allergies, dry sinuses, stuffy nose, rested most of the day, towards the end of the day the headache subsided. Mentally, depression including irrational fears, restlessness and irritability. reduced my smoking to at least half today, will try to continue that. Today 8:30 Woke up at 4.30, no physical flare-up atm although mentally still very restless along with loud tinnitus, irritable digestion and bloated stomach, allergies as well. Vitamins: Ferritin and vitamin D not yet in deficiency but at the very low limit, will start taking only iron+c and see how the body reacts. Im so sorry you’re having such a hard wave 🫂 💗 You’ve had Windows before and you will again! 🪟 ✨🌿 I’m wondering about nicotine… Since it’s a drug, I wonder if it would help your nervous system to smoke exactly the same amount every day… Just thinking “out loud”… For US members: Please report med to FDA Med Watch2017 (May) - Ativan .5 mg (3 x Daily) 2018 (Feb) - Mirtazapine 7.5 mg 2018 (May) - Ativan to Valium - Switch - Can’t Remember how long it took -tapered to 3 mg of Valium2024 (May) - Valium Tolerance2024 (2 Nov) - Completed taper off Valium 2024 (2 Nov) - Mirtazapine increased to 15 mg2025 (Feb) - Ativan 0.25 mg (3 x Daily) - Became Paradoxical - Started weaning got to 0.11mg2025 (Mar) - Ativan 0mg - CT In detox2025 (April) Started Depakote 1500mg - In detox2025 (April) - Depakote 500mg (2 x Daily) once home2025 (Aug) - Completed taper off Depakote2025 (Aug) - Akathisia surges throughout the day with calming in between2025 (Sept) - Gabapentin (Micro Dose) - Was calming at first and then became paradoxical so stop2025 (Oct) - Depakote - RI – (Two days of small dose) Became scared and stopped with WD & aka2025 (Oct) - Seroquel 50 mg XR – 1 Week - more and more activating and increased aka2025 (Oct) - Psychiatrist told me to stop it. But I took a few days of a smaller dose of IR then stopped - Not activating2025 (Nov) - Hydroxyzine 2.5mg - it was paradoxical so stopped2025 (1 Dec) - Mirtazapine 22.5mg - (2 Days) Was incredibly overstimulating started reducing to previous2025 (3 Dec) - Mirtazapine 18.75mg2025 (10 Dec) - Mirtazapine 16.87mg2025 (22 Dec) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (23Jan) - Mirtazapine 14.7mg2026 (23 Jan) - Mirtazapine 1mg Panic dose2026 (24 Jan) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (25 Feb) – Mirtazapine 14.7mg (-2%)2026 (18 Mar) - propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (21 Mar)- Mirtazapine- 15 mg accidentally in sleepy state2026 (22 Mar) - Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (more accurate scales) 2026 (29 April) Mirtazapine 14.7 mg/.1020 g (on suggestion of Horowitz) immediate intense symptoms2026 (30 April) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (.1026 g)2026 (23 May) propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (01 June) Mirtazapine 14.79 mgdose was 5 hours late2026 (22 July) Mirtazapine 14.76 mgIntense electric activation, muscle tightness, autonomic surges, terror followed 2026 (23 July) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg return
March 8Mar 8 6 hours ago, Fullhealing said: Last days update Friday: night - sweat, nightmares, few awakenings, sinus pressure and extreme dry mouth. morning started with headaches/neck/shoulders/joint pains, heart palpitations, chest pain, body weakness, terrible digestion, depression along with flashes of fear/terror and extreme inner restlessness, extremely loud tinnitus, inability to tolerate any noise. In addition, excessive smoking, almost uncontrollable, began since the last three cuts along with other strange compolsive behaviours, a bit more than 3 months. Saturday: Night - disturbed sleep, still excessive sweating and several awakenings. During the day, still body weakness with muscle/joint pain, headache, tinnitus still very loud, irritable digestion, bloated stomach, allergies, dry sinuses, stuffy nose, rested most of the day, towards the end of the day the headache subsided. Mentally, depression including irrational fears, restlessness and irritability. reduced my smoking to at least half today, will try to continue that. Today 8:30 Woke up at 4.30, no physical flare-up atm although mentally still very restless along with loud tinnitus, irritable digestion and bloated stomach, allergies as well. Vitamins: Ferritin and vitamin D not yet in deficiency but at the very low limit, will start taking only iron+c and see how the body reacts. Im sorry to hear about your suffering.....it's a very painful journey, but you can do it . Prayers to you and hope for full recovery... 08/01/2009- Klonopin 1mg, but took only .25mg when needed, and end up taking every day for 3 years. 08/01/2012 - Paraxotine 20 mg12/2024- reinstated 5mg (.0740g)after cold turkey. First tapering 07/01/2025 = 1.2% , 09/01/2025 - another 1.4%. 10/01/2025- 4.79mg (.0716g) holding until further notice........04/17/26 resumed taper 0714g (4.78mg). 05/20/2026- .0712g (4.76mg, .28% cut). 06/09/2026- .0708g (4.73mg .56% cut). 06/30/2026 - .0706g (4.72mg .33%). 07/28/2026 - .0700g (4.68mg, .85%).
March 8Mar 8 Author 5 hours ago, Catbird said: @Fullhealing so sorry you're struggling with such an array of WD symptoms. Sending you wishes you'll find some stability in the near future. Insomnia is such a cruel phenomenon 🤗🧡 Thank you @Catbird yes, lack of sleep.. brutal and amplifies everything.. hopefully it's will get better. Appreciate your kind support! 💜 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 8Mar 8 Author 2 hours ago, Raymond said: Im sorry to hear about your suffering.....it's a very painful journey, but you can do it . Prayers to you and hope for full recovery... Appreciate that @Raymond thank you! A few rough days but maybe a tiny improvement for now so that's a lot. I hope you're doing relatively ok today! 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
March 8Mar 8 Author 3 hours ago, Finni said: Im so sorry you’re having such a hard wave 🫂 💗 You’ve had Windows before and you will again! 🪟 ✨🌿 I’m wondering about nicotine… Since it’s a drug, I wonder if it would help your nervous system to smoke exactly the same amount every day… Just thinking “out loud”… Thanks a lot @Finni 💞 small important as for now, im thankful. Regarding nicotine, it's been wild in the last few months, I've never smoked so heavily and it's at a suffocating level!! I'm trying to figure out if it's related to increased compulsivity since the last cuts, I've seen a lot of people describe all kinds of obsessive behaviors like this during withdrawal.. I've managed to cut back in the last couple of days and my body is thanking me so I'll try to keep it up. Edited March 8Mar 8 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
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