April 17Apr 17 Author 11 minutes ago, Beehive said:@Fullhealing Just read there is a swarm of bees in Southern Israel . Just means I'm keeping an eye on you ๐Nice one @Beehive I had no clue ๐ How are you now? Any better I hope ๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 17Apr 17 @Fullhealing My baseline must be a bit stronger today as I can carry my symptoms today without them weighing me down . Hope your improvements have continued ๐ 2016 - 2019 Sertraline 25mg highest dose 100mgย 2019 C Ted 25mg Bad withdrawalsย 01/2020 reinstated 25mgย 06/2020 - 12/2021 tapered from 100mg to 6mg jumped off .bad withdrawals like before . 06/2022 reinstated 25mgย 10/2023 started taper of 25mg not sure of starting dropsย 04/2025 5mg 06/2025 4.1mg 08/2025 3.5mgย 10/2025 3.1 mg 12/2025 2.5mg 01/2026 to present 2.27mgย ย ย
April 17Apr 17 Author 9 minutes ago, Beehive said:@Fullhealing My baseline must be a bit stronger today as I can carry my symptoms today without them weighing me down . Hope your improvements have continued ๐I'm a little better now mentally but my body is a mess.. Weekend so lots of rest and I'll be fine.So glad you're better, hope it continues to go up! ๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 17Apr 17 Not always the case but I've read on occasions that when your strong in physical symptoms the mental ones aren't too bad .In reverse when the mental.ones are in full swing the physical ones are less ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ Edited April 17Apr 17 by Beehive 2016 - 2019 Sertraline 25mg highest dose 100mgย 2019 C Ted 25mg Bad withdrawalsย 01/2020 reinstated 25mgย 06/2020 - 12/2021 tapered from 100mg to 6mg jumped off .bad withdrawals like before . 06/2022 reinstated 25mgย 10/2023 started taper of 25mg not sure of starting dropsย 04/2025 5mg 06/2025 4.1mg 08/2025 3.5mgย 10/2025 3.1 mg 12/2025 2.5mg 01/2026 to present 2.27mgย ย ย
April 18Apr 18 18 hours ago, Chippy said:The symptoms are like Whac-A-Mole!Well said as always, @Chippy !And dear @Fullhealing , I was thinking about you today as I was trying to nap on the couch and the tornado sirens went off. Second time today. I stayed on the couch. I thought of you running for your life during a siren. What a strong person you are to be dealing with all this and to maintain your sanity. And you are maintaining your sanity. You're doing this thing called withdrawal. May God bless you and keep you going strong. โฃ๏ธ๐ฎ Sept 1993ย Beganย paroxetineย 20 mg for anxiety and depression- worked like a charm.ย 1st taper - Augย 1995ย tapered over 3 weeks before getting pregnant- great at first, crashed at one month. White knuckled it through 2 miscarriages.ย Springย 1996ย (?)ย Reinstatedย paroxetineย 20 mg.ย 2nd taper- Spring 2008ย tapered offย paroxetineย over 4 months.ย Summer 2008ย crashed horribly,ย nearly incapacitated by WD;ย Summer 2008-Summer 2009ย triedย 4 differentย ADs,ย none as effective asย paroxetine.ย ย Summer 2009ย Reinstated 20 mgย paroxetine, not as effective as previously. 3rd taper-ย Jun 19, 2019ย began 10 mgย paroxetine, 10 mgย fluoxetineย for one week.ย Jun 26ย 20 mgย fluoxetine, 5 mgย paroxetineย for one week.ย Jul 3-ย 20 mgย fluoxetineย +ย lorazepamย (0.5 mg) as needed up to 2x/day. Aug 12-ย 30 mg fluox;ย Sept 3-ย .5 mg clonazepam daily; end lorazepam;ย Sept 5-ย 40 mg fluox;ย End of 2019-ย returned to paroxetine 20 mg/day most of the year, 30mg/day in the winter. BEGIN 4th TAPER ATTEMPT: Jul 13 2025- 30 -> 25 mg; 10 Sept ->ย 22.5mg;ย 3 Oct ->ย 20 mg; 10 Oct -> hold 2 weeks; 2 Nov ->ย 19.5 mg; 9 Nov ->ย 19 mg; 16 Nov -> hold 1 week; 22 Nov ->ย 18.6 mg; 30 Nov ->ย 18.2 mg; 7 Dec -> hold 1 week; 14 Dec ->ย 17.8 mg; 21 Dec ->ย 17.5 mg; 28 Dec ->ย 17.1 mg; 4 Jan 2026 ->ย 16.7 mgย -> hold 2 weeks ; 28 Jan ->ย 16.4 mg; 1ย Feb -> 16.0 mg; 8 Feb -> 15.7 mg; 15 Feb -> hold 2 weeks; 1 Mar -> 15.5 mg; 8 Mar -> 15.2 mg; 15 Mar -> hold; 5 Apr -> 14.9.ย ย ย Supplements: Vit D, Magesium L-threonate, Vit C, Zinc, Melatonin, Multivitamin
April 18Apr 18 Author 2 hours ago, gardengirl2 said:Well said as always, @Chippy !And dear @Fullhealing , I was thinking about you today as I was trying to nap on the couch and the tornado sirens went off. Second time today. I stayed on the couch. I thought of you running for your life during a siren. What a strong person you are to be dealing with all this and to maintain your sanity. And you are maintaining your sanity. You're doing this thing called withdrawal. May God bless you and keep you going strong. โฃ๏ธ๐ฎBless you @gardengirl2 so kind of you to think of me while you're going through your own process and leave such a worm words, thank you, that means a lot.Fortunately, there's been a week's ceasefire which has brought me back to the usual insane withdrawal phase plus all sorts of unwanted external events but very grateful that the war is out of the equation at least for now, I'll pray it will stay that way.Atm a bit better both physically and mentally but we know how things can flip in a sec so hopefully it will stay for a moment..How things are going for you? I'm popping over your thread to check out, hope you're holding up well ๐ฉท๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 56 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:Atm a bit better both physically and mentallySo good to read. ๐I also hope the peace holds out. Iโm not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys.ย ย If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card'ย report for the MHRA.ย It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today ๐ย https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
April 18Apr 18 Author 2 minutes ago, Chippy said:So good to read. ๐I also hope the peace holds out.Thank you @Chippy we can only wish ๐ hope you are doing fine atm ๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 3 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:Thank you @Chippy we can only wish ๐ hope you are doing fine atm ๐Thanks Fullhealing. Plodding along as ever. Iโm not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys.ย ย If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card'ย report for the MHRA.ย It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today ๐ย https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
April 18Apr 18 Author 14 minutes ago, Chippy said:Thanks Fullhealing. Plodding along as ever.Great mindset @Chippy power on ๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 You've been through so stress and grief much in the last little while, @Fullhealing. I hope that you are enjoying at least a bit of relief. Sending you love and well wishes โค๏ธI am witnessing my mother's steep decline into dementia; the mother I knew is almost gone. I live quite far from her and I feel so much guilt that I am not spending more time with her, and so much sadness. It's really hard to have these feelings in wd. 2008-2011 - Citalopram 10-50 mg 2011 - Citalopram 50mg. Tapered to 20mg - with occasional increases to 25 or 30 mg 2018 (Aug) - 2019 (April) - Citalopram 20 mg, 10 mg, 7.5 mg, 5 mg 2019 (Fall) - Citalopram 5 mg - Experienced a major, unprecedented episode of intense anxiety and insomnia for 8-10 weeks. Updosed to 20 mg after 6 weeksย 2021 (23 Nov) - Citalopram 20 mg, 15 mg, 10 mg 2021 (14 Dec) - Duloxetine Switch 30 mg, 60 mgย 2022 (16 Jan) ย - Duloxetine 30 mg 2022 (31 Jan) - Duloxetine - Started skipping doses, 2 Days on, 1 Day off; ย 5 Days - 2 Days off, 1 Day on; 6 days 2022 (11 Feb) - Duloxetine 0 mgย 2022 (20 Mar) - Severe withdrawal beganย 2022 (29 Mar) - Citalopram - 5mg (RI), 10 mg 2022 (13 Apr) - Citalopram 15 mg 2022 (Mar 28) - Trazodone 25 mg - Added in for sleep 2023 (28 Jan) - Trazodone 12.5 mg 2024 (May 2) - (July 1) - Trazodone 10 mg - 7.5 mg 2025 (Oct) - 2026 (14 Feb) - Citalopram 15 mg -Tapered to 11.55 mg 2026 (13 Feb) - (5 Mar) - Citalopram (13 Feb) 11.55 mg, (15 Feb) 11.7 mg, (18 Feb) 11.85 mg, (25 Feb) 11.925 mg, (5 Mar) 11.955 mgย - Major increase in withdrawal symptoms; updosed to 11.955 mg (+3.5%) 2025 (14 Dec) - 2026 (31 Jan) Trazadone 7.5 mg - Tapered to 3.5 mg 2026ย (31 Jan) - (1 Mar) Trazodone (31 Jan) 3.5 mg, (20 Feb) 3.25 mg, (25 Feb) 3.125 mg, (1 Mar) 3.5 mg,ย (23 Mar) updosed to 3.75 mg (+7%)
April 18Apr 18 Author 1 hour ago, Treefrog said:You've been through so stress and grief much in the last little while, @Fullhealing. I hope that you are enjoying at least a bit of relief. Sending you love and well wishes โค๏ธI am witnessing my mother's steep decline into dementia; the mother I knew is almost gone. I live quite far from her and I feel so much guilt that I am not spending more time with her, and so much sadness. It's really hard to have these feelings in wd.Thank you for your kind wishes @Treefrog and so sorry for the ongoing process with your mother with this terrible disease, to add to this horrific journey, I can't imagine how difficult it is, my heart aches for you.please don't blame yourself, beyond the geographical factor you are fighting every moment for your existence so there is a limit to what you can give with all your great will, so much easier said than done I know, work in progress for all of us.Sending lots of health to your mother and a comforting hug to you. ๐ฉท Edited April 18Apr 18 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 @Fullhealing Just checking in to see how you are coping ๐ 2016 - 2019 Sertraline 25mg highest dose 100mgย 2019 C Ted 25mg Bad withdrawalsย 01/2020 reinstated 25mgย 06/2020 - 12/2021 tapered from 100mg to 6mg jumped off .bad withdrawals like before . 06/2022 reinstated 25mgย 10/2023 started taper of 25mg not sure of starting dropsย 04/2025 5mg 06/2025 4.1mg 08/2025 3.5mgย 10/2025 3.1 mg 12/2025 2.5mg 01/2026 to present 2.27mgย ย ย
April 18Apr 18 Author 45 minutes ago, Beehive said:@Fullhealing Just checking in to see how you are coping ๐Thank you for checking @Beehive appreciate it a lot ๐not a good day today, my body continues to fall apart and for half the day my brain turned to mush! I couldn't find words for anything, that's why I hardly responded at all.I saw that you're having a very tough day as well, I'm so sorry!I hope the great support you received from @Finni have lifted you and you're a little better atm? Edited April 18Apr 18 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 Thinking of you, @Fullhealing It sounds like youโve had a bear of a day.We all know how quickly this stuff can change ๐ and change back ๐ For US members: Please report med to FDA Med Watch2017 (May) - Ativan .5 mg (3 x Daily)ย 2018 (Feb) - Mirtazapine 7.5 mgย 2018 (May) - Ativan to Valium - Switch - Canโt Remember how long it took -tapered to 3 mg of Valium2024 (May) - Valium Tolerance2024 (2 Nov) - Completed taper off Valiumย 2024 (2 Nov) - Mirtazapine increased to 15 mg2025 (Feb) - Ativan 0.25 mg (3 x Daily) - Became Paradoxicalย - Started weaning got to 0.11mg2025 (Mar) - Ativan 0mg - CT In detox2025 (April) Started Depakote 1500mg - In detox2025 (April) - Depakote 500mg (2 x Daily) once home2025 (Aug) - Completed taper off Depakote2025 (Aug) - Akathisia surges throughout the day with calming in between2025 (Sept) - Gabapentin (Micro Dose) - Was calming at first and then became paradoxical so stop2025 (Oct) - Depakote - RI โ (Two days of small dose) Became scared and stopped with WD & aka2025 (Oct) - Seroquel 50 mg XR โ 1 Week - more and more activating and increased aka2025 (Oct) - Psychiatrist told me to stop it. But I took a few days of a smaller dose of IR then stopped - Not activating2025 (Nov) - Hydroxyzine 2.5mg - it was paradoxical so stopped2025 (1 Dec) - Mirtazapine 22.5mg - (2 Days) Was incredibly overstimulating started reducing to previous2025 (3 Dec) - Mirtazapine 18.75mg2025 (10 Dec) - Mirtazapine 16.87mg2025 (22 Dec) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (23Jan) - Mirtazapine 14.7mg2026 (23 Jan) -ย Mirtazapine 1mg Panic dose2026 (24 Jan) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (25 Feb) โ Mirtazapine 14.7mg (-2%)2026 (18 Mar) - propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (21 Mar)- Mirtazapine- 15 mg accidentally in sleepy state2026 (22 Mar) - Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (more accurate scales)ย 2026 (29 April) Mirtazapine 14.7 mg/.1020 g (on suggestion of Horowitz) immediate intense symptoms2026 (30 April) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (.1026 g)2026 (23 May) propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (01 June) Mirtazapine 14.79 mgdose was 5 hours late2026 (22 July) Mirtazapine 14.76 mgIntense electric activation, muscle tightness, autonomic surges, terror followed2026 (23 July) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg return2026 (Oct 5) attempted moving 2 mg of dose 45 minutes earlierSevere activation followedย ย
April 18Apr 18 Author 9 minutes ago, Finni said:Thinking of you, @FullhealingIt sounds like youโve had a bear of a day.We all know how quickly this stuff can change ๐ and change back ๐Thank you very much @Finni oh yes we do unfortunately..So happy to see you are integrating and managing to support others so well, amazing, look how much strength you have!!Indication of significant improvement I hope? ๐ฉท 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 1 minute ago, Fullhealing said:Thank you very much @Finni oh yes we do unfortunately..So happy to see you are integrating and managing to support others so well, amazing, look how much strength you have!!Indication of significant improvement I hope? ๐ฉทImprovement in that I wasnโt overtaken emotionally by the intensity. Still some very physical relentless discomfort, but I was able to communicate more. I guess Iโll count that as a little win.I wish I had a switch and I could just turn this accelerator in my solar plexus off!I hope you sleep well and wake up with easing symptoms! For US members: Please report med to FDA Med Watch2017 (May) - Ativan .5 mg (3 x Daily)ย 2018 (Feb) - Mirtazapine 7.5 mgย 2018 (May) - Ativan to Valium - Switch - Canโt Remember how long it took -tapered to 3 mg of Valium2024 (May) - Valium Tolerance2024 (2 Nov) - Completed taper off Valiumย 2024 (2 Nov) - Mirtazapine increased to 15 mg2025 (Feb) - Ativan 0.25 mg (3 x Daily) - Became Paradoxicalย - Started weaning got to 0.11mg2025 (Mar) - Ativan 0mg - CT In detox2025 (April) Started Depakote 1500mg - In detox2025 (April) - Depakote 500mg (2 x Daily) once home2025 (Aug) - Completed taper off Depakote2025 (Aug) - Akathisia surges throughout the day with calming in between2025 (Sept) - Gabapentin (Micro Dose) - Was calming at first and then became paradoxical so stop2025 (Oct) - Depakote - RI โ (Two days of small dose) Became scared and stopped with WD & aka2025 (Oct) - Seroquel 50 mg XR โ 1 Week - more and more activating and increased aka2025 (Oct) - Psychiatrist told me to stop it. But I took a few days of a smaller dose of IR then stopped - Not activating2025 (Nov) - Hydroxyzine 2.5mg - it was paradoxical so stopped2025 (1 Dec) - Mirtazapine 22.5mg - (2 Days) Was incredibly overstimulating started reducing to previous2025 (3 Dec) - Mirtazapine 18.75mg2025 (10 Dec) - Mirtazapine 16.87mg2025 (22 Dec) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (23Jan) - Mirtazapine 14.7mg2026 (23 Jan) -ย Mirtazapine 1mg Panic dose2026 (24 Jan) - Mirtazapine 15mg2026 (25 Feb) โ Mirtazapine 14.7mg (-2%)2026 (18 Mar) - propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (21 Mar)- Mirtazapine- 15 mg accidentally in sleepy state2026 (22 Mar) - Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (more accurate scales)ย 2026 (29 April) Mirtazapine 14.7 mg/.1020 g (on suggestion of Horowitz) immediate intense symptoms2026 (30 April) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg (.1026 g)2026 (23 May) propranolol 2.5 mg one time2026 (01 June) Mirtazapine 14.79 mgdose was 5 hours late2026 (22 July) Mirtazapine 14.76 mgIntense electric activation, muscle tightness, autonomic surges, terror followed2026 (23 July) Mirtazapine 14.79 mg return2026 (Oct 5) attempted moving 2 mg of dose 45 minutes earlierSevere activation followedย ย
April 18Apr 18 Just checking in to see how youโre doing.35 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:not a good day today, my body continues to fall apart and for half the day my brain turned to mush! IOh noโฆ.so tough. Thinking of you! There are better days ahead, would they only be here.Sending love and peace SA Thread:ย https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/33406-nemina-tapering-escitalopram/AR Thread:ย https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/14-nemina-tapering-escilatopram-and-zolpidem/ย Drug History2013 - 2025:ย Zolpidem 5 mg2015 - Oct 2024: Venlafaxine, Sertralin (Zoloft), Paroxetin (Paxil),duloxtin (cymbalta), Citalopram (Celexa), Escitalopram (Lexapro) and moreย ย Current DrugsL-Thyroxin 75, Estrogen, Progesteron 200ย Tapering EscitalopramUntil Sept 2024: Setralin/zoloft 75 mgOct 2024: Switch to Escitalopram /ย Lexapro 2mgThen I tapered over a year from 2mg to 0,32 mg (October 2025). ย 108 days hold without stabilizing. Resumed taper February 2026:11ย Feb 2026 0.314mgย 18 Feb 2026 0.307mgย 21 Feb 2026 0.302mg09 Mar 2026 0.297mg18 April 2026 0,293 mg18 May 2026 0,285 mg18 June 2026 0,265 mg18 July 2026 0,250 mg18 Aug 2026 0,232 mg18 Sept 2026 0,232 mg (Holding since 19.8.)ย Tapering Zolpidem: From 5 mg to 0,7 mg in 12 months, ย then just crumbs for several weeks, now 0! (Jan 2026)ย Other Supplementsย Omega 3, Magnesium Glycinate, Vit D, Calcium, L-theanin, Vit C, Vit K2, Selen
April 18Apr 18 Author 9 minutes ago, Finni said:Improvement in that I wasnโt overtaken emotionally by the intensity. Still some very physical relentless discomfort, but I was able to communicate more. I guess Iโll count that as a little win.I wish I had a switch and I could just turn this accelerator in my solar plexus off!I hope you sleep well and wake up with easing symptoms!A huge win!! the rest slowly will follow, keep walking bravly.Thank you, peaceful night and right foot morning to you as well ๐ Edited April 18Apr 18 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 Author 14 minutes ago, Nemina said:Just checking in to see how youโre doing.Oh noโฆ.so tough.Thinking of you! There are better days ahead, would they only be here.Sending love and peaceThank you @Nemina just a nother day in heaven..We've been through worse, it'll be okay.Love, peace and health back to you dear โจ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 18Apr 18 1 hour ago, Fullhealing said:Thank you @Nemina just a nother day in heaven..We've been through worse, it'll be okay.Love, peace and health back to you dear โจYou do such great work with other members in need, while dealing with your own recovery. You're mu hero, @Fullhealing ! Started Paxil for GAD in 1999 Unsuccessful taper attempt in 2006 Paxilprogress helped with a successful taper completed in 2009 Using therapy and CBT to manage my anxiety ย I offer advice based on my experience.ย Nothing I share is intended to be medical or therapy advice.ย
April 19Apr 19 Author 7 hours ago, mstimc60 said:You do such great work with other members in need, while dealing with your own recovery. You're mu hero, @Fullhealing !Still little compared to what I receive. @mstimc60 bless you for your great contribution here, you are such a great motivator! thank you so much. Edited April 19Apr 19 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 19Apr 19 Author Update 12:30pmNot going well, a heavy and thick fog for a few days now, everything feels completely dull, the most trivial thing suck enormous energy, totally drained.The disturbed night's sleep is starting to mix with the day and the little routine I had is starting to disappear.Physically, hard to keep up, one pain is replacing another at a rapid pace..The first day of the week, a lot of work awaits and zero strength to motivate myself.I know, it's all part of the journey but while in it's brutal.So today I'll give myself space to sink a little into the swamp of self-pity but tomorrow two small, gentle slaps to shake myself up, bad place to feel "comfortable" in..Hope you'll in a tolerable place atm ๐ 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of controlย 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470gย (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
April 19Apr 19 @FullhealingFullhealing My heart goes out to you โค๏ธ please be kind to yourself, you are going through an extremely difficult journey and grief. I just wish I could take it all away. Not getting a great sleep certainly takes its toll. You've not failed in any way ,you are doing your best in a very difficult situation. โค๏ธ 2016 - 2019 Sertraline 25mg highest dose 100mgย 2019 C Ted 25mg Bad withdrawalsย 01/2020 reinstated 25mgย 06/2020 - 12/2021 tapered from 100mg to 6mg jumped off .bad withdrawals like before . 06/2022 reinstated 25mgย 10/2023 started taper of 25mg not sure of starting dropsย 04/2025 5mg 06/2025 4.1mg 08/2025 3.5mgย 10/2025 3.1 mg 12/2025 2.5mg 01/2026 to present 2.27mgย ย ย
April 19Apr 19 28 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:Update 12:30pmNot going well, a heavy and thick fog for a few days now, everything feels completely dull, the most trivial thing suck enormous energy, totally drained.The disturbed night's sleep is starting to mix with the day and the little routine I had is starting to disappear.Physically, hard to keep up, one pain is replacing another at a rapid pace..The first day of the week, a lot of work awaits and zero strength to motivate myself.I know, it's all part of the journey but while in it's brutal.So today I'll give myself space to sink a little into the swamp of self-pity but tomorrow two small, gentle slaps to shake myself up, bad place to feel "comfortable" in..Hope you'll in a tolerable place atm ๐remember to accept your symptoms and not resist them, just let them do as they want and don't attach to them. Iโm not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys.ย Feel free to mention me whenever help is needed.ย Current Supplements: Night: 6mg melatonin and 133mg magnesium glycinate. Taking Omega 3 as needed to calm dyskinesia or over stimulation (Lately been reacting more negatively to supplement Omega 3).Current Medications: Mirtazapine, Lasea (lavender oil) before bed.------------------------------------------Tapering: Mirtazapine 15mg, (went compounded) 13.5mg 08/May/2025, 12.1mg 10/July/2025, 15/July/2025 15mg (half tablet), 26/July/2025 14.35mg (moved to dry cutting method) ), 03/Aug/2025 14.6mg, 24/Nov/2025 14.47mg, 29/Jan/2026 14.35mgNote: Had a lot of issue with degradation with different cutting times and compounded pharmacy which caused withdrawals and a more sensitive nervous system.
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