39 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

fake it until I make it, longgg way to reach that point..

@Fullhealing...this is all we can do.. faking it might help us to change our mind and hopefully feel better...

 

@Fullhealing Sending some love cause why not ❤️

On 4/6/2026 at 4:30 AM, Fullhealing said:

drilling brain with 3 positive on every negative.. can't let it win!

This is my issues these last two days....I am with you.   Positive reinforcement all to win this battle.....

 

Also, it is great to see you mentoring.   🎉 Congratulations 👏 

Update 9.15pm

Yesterday shortly after my last update I caught something that felt like a hellish virus, my whole body, head, sinuses, muscles ached terribly and I fell into a sweaty and disturbed sleep for 18 hours until 8 in the morning, currently still half dead and mostly in bed, mood accordingly, sorry, trying my best but positivity isn't working well today.

I wonder what's going on with my immune system, from a healthy and resilient system that barely catches even a small sneeze I now have allergies, food sensitivities, viruses, poor digestion with all sorts of other unpleasant surprises that come and go..

Does serotonin have such a broad effect when trying to quit? It really doesn't miss even one little cell, huh.. unbelievable really!

Edited April 7Apr 7 by Fullhealing

1 minute ago, Fullhealing said:

Update 9.15pm

Yesterday shortly after my last update I caught something that felt like a hellish virus, my whole body, head, sinuses, muscles ached terribly and I fell into a sweaty and disturbed sleep for 18 hours until 8 in the morning, currently still half dead and mostly in bed, mood accordingly, sorry, trying my best but positivity isn't working well today.

I wonder what's going on with my immune system, from a healthy and resilient system that barely catches even a small sneeze I now have allergies, food sensitivities, viruses, poor digestion with all sorts of other unpleasant surprises that come and go..

Does serotonin have such a broad effect when trying to quit? 

Paraxotine affects serotonin and 90% of serotonin are created in the guts, which paraxotine affects guts.

 

When my stomach is affected by withdrawal or waves, my symptoms can feel bad.   I take almost every day ginger tea to help the stomach.

 

I doubt that you are sick from a virus, but who knows.  Drink tea to calm the stomach.

 

My stomach still gets hurts but it's alot less painful and I have noticed that my stomach is getting longer windows too....

 

I hope you get better soon..

20 minutes ago, Raymond said:

Paraxotine affects serotonin and 90% of serotonin are created in the guts, which paraxotine affects guts.

 

When my stomach is affected by withdrawal or waves, my symptoms can feel bad.   I take almost every day ginger tea to help the stomach.

 

I doubt that you are sick from a virus, but who knows.  Drink tea to calm the stomach.

 

My stomach still gets hurts but it's alot less painful and I have noticed that my stomach is getting longer windows too....

 

I hope you get better soon..

Thanks Raymond, I'm just amazed at how much impact serotonin has, it must goes far beyond the gut, no other explanation for the myriad of symptoms I'm experiencing.

Edited April 7Apr 7 by Fullhealing

26 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

Thanks Raymond, I'm just amazed at how much impact serotonin has, it must goes far beyond the gut, no other explanation for the myriad of symptoms I'm experiencing.

Currently, I'm at 4.79mg paraxotine.  The medication is affecting 40 to 47% of my serotonin.  

In your case, you are at 2.68mg, so your dose is affecting about 30% of your serotonin.

 

The good news is that once your body stabilize, you should feel better.  Your body currently producing 70% of your serotonin naturally, but still finding the balance...

 

I wish I could be on your current dose, but I have a long way to go....

 

Keep him, it will go away and you will feel better....

Oh no, I am so sorry @Fullhealing , this sounds terrible. You have been knocked down really hard and fast. 😧😔

Maybe it is a good thing that you react with sleeping. Sleeping accelerates healing. I hope you will heal fast from this virus!
Serotonin is needed in every cell. It regulates how the oxygen you take in is distributed in the body, and it also has some function with the mitochondria, so it has to do with our energy, with sleep and with the circadian rhythm. That’s why we are affected in every cell of our body by withdrawal. And then, of course, it does many more things, in the gut, in the brain and and so on.

 

sending you my best wishes and I will pray for you! ❤️‍🩹

So sorry you are feeling so bad , we can't be strong all the time it's too exhausting, don't beat yourself up over it . There is strength in showing weakness . Yes you very well could have a virus ,the trouble with withdrawal is we blame every sympton on it but we still get other stuff not related its not all withdrawal.  Like @Neminasaid serotonin affects every cell in your body ,its part of the chemistry of your body . Please don't be do hard on yourself ,you haven't let yourself down in anyway ,none of this is your fault !. Your going through an horrific journey and yes you will pick up bugs along the way we are more susceptible in withdrawal but again thats not your fault you haven't done anything wrong . This will pass like everything else does . Be kind to yourself ,give yourself a hug and tell yourself you will be ok.  Havening is good for that.  ❤️

16 minutes ago, Nemina said:

Oh no, I am so sorry @Fullhealing , this sounds terrible. You have been knocked down really hard and fast. 😧😔

Maybe it is a good thing that you react with sleeping. Sleeping accelerates healing. I hope you will heal fast from this virus!
Serotonin is needed in every cell. It regulates how the oxygen you take in is distributed in the body, and it also has some function with the mitochondria, so it has to do with our energy, with sleep and with the circadian rhythm. That’s why we are affected in every cell of our body by withdrawal. And then, of course, it does many more things, in the gut, in the brain and and so on.

 

sending you my best wishes and I will pray for you! ❤️‍🩹

I didn't know exactly what role serotonin plays in our general system except in the gut so thanks for the explanation, it does provide an answer to the variety of horrific symptoms we all experience, how extremely tough!

And thank you so much for your lovely wishes @Nemina I also hope it passes quickly, this one knocked me down really hard.

I hope you're doing ok my friend, best wishes to you 🩷

 

 

56 minutes ago, Beehive said:

So sorry you are feeling so bad , we can't be strong all the time it's too exhausting, don't beat yourself up over it . There is strength in showing weakness . Yes you very well could have a virus ,the trouble with withdrawal is we blame every sympton on it but we still get other stuff not related its not all withdrawal.  Like @Neminasaid serotonin affects every cell in your body ,its part of the chemistry of your body . Please don't be do hard on yourself ,you haven't let yourself down in anyway ,none of this is your fault !. Your going through an horrific journey and yes you will pick up bugs along the way we are more susceptible in withdrawal but again thats not your fault you haven't done anything wrong . This will pass like everything else does . Be kind to yourself ,give yourself a hug and tell yourself you will be ok.  Havening is good for that.  ❤️

Thank you @Beehive I admit I haven't been particularly kind to myself with this virus so thanks for reminding me 🙏

It seems that now that the painkiller effect has worn off my body is starting to hurt again so I'll end here for today and go to sleep.

I hope you're holding up well and wishing you good quiet night 💜

Edited April 7Apr 7 by Fullhealing

9 hours ago, Fullhealing said:

Update 9.15pm

Yesterday shortly after my last update I caught something that felt like a hellish virus, my whole body, head, sinuses, muscles ached terribly and I fell into a sweaty and disturbed sleep for 18 hours until 8 in the morning, currently still half dead and mostly in bed, mood accordingly, sorry, trying my best but positivity isn't working well today.

I wonder what's going on with my immune system, from a healthy and resilient system that barely catches even a small sneeze I now have allergies, food sensitivities, viruses, poor digestion with all sorts of other unpleasant surprises that come and go..

Does serotonin have such a broad effect when trying to quit? It really doesn't miss even one little cell, huh.. unbelievable really!

So sorry to hear! Unfortunately every part of us is affected. 😞 I hope this passes soon. It always seems so cruel that we can even get viruses still in wd. We should be immune! We have enough to deal with. Xxxx

5 hours ago, Chippy said:

So sorry to hear! Unfortunately every part of us is affected. 😞 I hope this passes soon. It always seems so cruel that we can even get viruses still in wd. We should be immune! We have enough to deal with. Xxxx

Thanks chippy, I bet I would have been much less dramatic if it had happened outside wd, oh well, one big positive, barely smoked for two days.

Edited April 8Apr 8 by Fullhealing

Update 18:30pm

Slept with many short, sweaty awakenings, ton! very grateful that I was able to sleep and for the system to have quiet place to fight the virus well.

In general I think how remarkable our system is to mobilizes so many microscopic workers in full synchronization and fights on so many fronts at the same time that we are not aware of, I really have to fall hard to appreciate what is mostly taken for granted.

Same goes with this brutal process, the system is fighting such a difficult internal bloody war that manifests itself in all the unbearable symptoms with no dull moment, every second is well utilized, when it comes to an end against the poison we have been fed, each with his own, we will reach the other side, only patience, time and a lot of appreciation will make it happen.

Anyways, feeling better, the virus seems to mostly faded with fewer signs, body hurts less and although there is still some pressure and pain in the sinuses, cheeks and jaw it's bearable, no painkillers today so it's a clear indication of improvement.

mood, reasonable.

We will see how it continues from here.

Edited April 8Apr 8 by Fullhealing

32 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

Update 18:30pm

Slept with many short, sweaty awakenings, ton! very grateful that I was able to sleep and for the system to have quiet place to fight the virus well.

In general I think how remarkable our system is to mobilizes so many microscopic workers in full synchronization and fights on so many fronts at the same time that we are not aware of, I really have to fall hard to appreciate what is mostly taken for granted.

Same goes with this brutal process, the system is fighting such a difficult internal bloody war that manifests itself in all the unbearable symptoms with no dull moment, every second is well utilized, when it comes to an end against the poison we have been fed, each with his own, we will reach the other side, only patience, time and a lot of appreciation will make it happen.

Anyways, feeling better, the virus seems to mostly faded with fewer signs, body hurts less and although there is still some pressure and pain in the sinuses, cheeks and jaw it's bearable, no painkillers today so it's a clear indication of improvement.

mood, reasonable.

We will see how it continues from here.

Sounds like things are heading in the right direction @Fullhealing your system is fighting this off well. I agree our bodies are amazing! Incredible. 

52 minutes ago, Fullhealing said:

Update 18:30pm

Slept with many short, sweaty awakenings, ton! very grateful that I was able to sleep and for the system to have quiet place to fight the virus well.

In general I think how remarkable our system is to mobilizes so many microscopic workers in full synchronization and fights on so many fronts at the same time that we are not aware of, I really have to fall hard to appreciate what is mostly taken for granted.

Same goes with this brutal process, the system is fighting such a difficult internal bloody war that manifests itself in all the unbearable symptoms with no dull moment, every second is well utilized, when it comes to an end against the poison we have been fed, each with his own, we will reach the other side, only patience, time and a lot of appreciation will make it happen.

Anyways, feeling better, the virus seems to mostly faded with fewer signs, body hurts less and although there is still some pressure and pain in the sinuses, cheeks and jaw it's bearable, no painkillers today so it's a clear indication of improvement.

mood, reasonable.

We will see how it continues from here.

I am glad to hear that you are doing better, @Fullhealing.  Yes, it is amazing how our bodies are able to fight. Still I would wish for you less fighting and more peace… Do remember to drink a lot, this is very important for the sinuses. you want to get rid of all this stuff for good. 
thinking of you xxx

Glad to hear you're feeling better @Fullhealing...it is amazing how well our bodies can do what they are designed to do, despite withdrawal... Hope things continue to improve 

Thank you @Nemina @Treefrog @Chippy 🩷 I wish it was done more in peace as well no doubt, the suffering we all endure is so awful but no peace in war unfortunately, the acknowledge of that makes it a bit more bearable in a way as well as it will be over for all of us at some point, that something to hold on tight 🙏

 

 

Thinking of you @Fullhealing! 
sending healing thoughts ✨ 💗✨

1 minute ago, Finni said:

Thinking of you @Fullhealing! 
sending healing thoughts ✨ 💗✨

Thank you dear @Finni how are you holding today, or say now? Any relief? I really hope so 🙏 💜

Update  2:10am
Seems that sleep isn't going to happen anytime soon, the virus has knocked me down for so many hours that the next few nights will likely be more alert than withdrawal normal.
Today was half a clutch but considering that I'm not completely healed yet, it makes sense.
Managed to work for a brief time and in the evening had to go out for some close errand that I put off for too long which felt like long beret journey, I was simply drained, at zero and so was my mood but no anxiety, burning sensation, heart palpitations or feeling on edge so I'll take it.
As of now not much has changed but as always this too shall pass.

5 hours ago, Fullhealing said:

Update  2:10am
Seems that sleep isn't going to happen anytime soon, the virus has knocked me down for so many hours that the next few nights will likely be more alert than withdrawal normal.
Today was half a clutch but considering that I'm not completely healed yet, it makes sense.
Managed to work for a brief time and in the evening had to go out for some close errand that I put off for too long which felt like long beret journey, I was simply drained, at zero and so was my mood but no anxiety, burning sensation, heart palpitations or feeling on edge so I'll take it.
As of now not much has changed but as always this too shall pass.

AR warrior in full swing! You are incredible with your stoic mindset @Fullhealing  as you said this too shall pass. Xxx

28 minutes ago, Chippy said:

AR warrior in full swing! You are incredible with your stoic mindset @Fullhealing  as you said this too shall pass. Xxx

Thanks almighty @Chippy forcing myself back to the line 🫡

Have an easy sweet day today 👊✨

1 minute ago, Fullhealing said:

Thanks almighty @Chippy forcing myself back to the line 🫡

Have an easy sweet day today 👊✨

You are incredible. Love your spirit xxx

26 minutes ago, Chippy said:

You are incredible. Love your spirit xxx

You are one of if not the biggest example for a incredible spirit here @Chippy bless your heart for everything that you do!!

Edited April 10Apr 10 by Fullhealing