March 5Mar 5 Author Thanks @Richie! It is so strange to feel calm and neutral after a week of intense sensations and a mind that was running rampant with negative and looping thoughts 😅 Holy crap... 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 5Mar 5 Just now, Niels91 said: Thanks @Richie! It is so strange to feel calm and neutral after a week of intense sensations and a mind that was running rampant with negative and looping thoughts 😅 Holy crap... This defo shows healing your cns is trying to revert to normality. so promising. Mirtazapine for 3 weeks august 2025 15mg made me numb didn’t know why took an overdose of 10x 15mg tablets. reinstated at 11 weeks due to symptoms and inpatient stay. currently on 3.75mg mirtazapine symptoms/ anhedonia, slightly blurred vision, tinnitus, toxic naps depression, anxiety, pins and needles
March 6Mar 6 11 hours ago, Niels91 said: I'm still not certain if this is WD or not but I'm gonna go ahead and say that it is the most likely option of the ones I have in mind. Furthermore, I'm happy to share that my anxiety is almost completely gone now. I feel a lot more calm and collected. Seems I have entered a new window 🙂 The fact that it flared up for a fixed period and then went away again, and being less than a year off of drugs, makes it highly likely to be withdrawal. If you have a difficult period like that again, try to zoom out and look at how far you've come generally, and accept that a setback of a few days or a week is a bump in the road towards further recovery and not worth risking introducing further drugs, which did not go well last time. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
March 6Mar 6 11 hours ago, Niels91 said: Hi @Chippy, Thank you, once again. Much appreciated. I'm still not certain if this is WD or not but I'm gonna go ahead and say that it is the most likely option of the ones I have in mind. Furthermore, I'm happy to share that my anxiety is almost completely gone now. I feel a lot more calm and collected. Seems I have entered a new window 🙂 When this anxiety and aversion rises during my waves, I don't respond, I'm only able to react and go into resistance because it so overwhelming and I start having these obsessive/looping thoughts. Sounds like neuro-emotions to me. When all of this happens, it's worse than what I've been through back when my anxiety disorder was at its peak. Even the aversion and avolition are so much stronger, so much more intense than I've ever experienced... What a hell of a ride this is, indeed... My pleasure mate. Trust me when I say Im certain of it! Glad are seeing more things easing. More proof of healing, more proof of WD! 🙂 You are doing great, although I know it might not feel like it! Working to stop resisting your symptoms is a difficult but important skill and ties into acceptance. Sometimes accepting you are not accepting it the first step! Acceptance is key Chippy I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 6Mar 6 Author Thanks everyone, it is lovely to have your support. Well, I had a good night's rest and I felt ok this morning. It's noon now and I feel on edge and nervous again. Bit of nausea too. That being said, it won't stop me from trying to enjoy my day. I'm going out with a few friends this evening and I'm taking the uncomfortable feelings, sensations and thoughts with me. It's hard but I can do it. Gotta trust myself and the process of recovery! 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 6Mar 6 I like your determination @Niels91! This reminds me of what Angie Peacock said in one of her recent reels: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTBOSckkiWm/?igsh=ZWVnOWNkbGN6OHN4 My story: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/87-marina-onoffonoff-zoloft-since-end-of-2020/History:• November 2020 - March 2022: 50 mg Zoloft (first WD - mostly mental symptoms)• July and August 2022: psilocybin microdosing• End of August 2022: medium dose psilocybin• January 2023: reinstated Zoloft 50 mg (but probably experinenced adverse reaction/tolerance/poop-out)• October 2024: started slow taper off Zoloft• September 2025: switched to compounded capsules (second WD started - both physical and mental symptoms)• May 2026: still tapering but in liquid form; currently at cca 0,1 mg Symptoms:Windows and waves pattern of healing.In a wave:• severe DP/DR - reality seems strange and creepy and I feel a disconnect from my life, myself, God and the world around me, deep depression, stuck in my head, disinterest for my previous hobbies and work, hopeless, intrusive thoughts, cortisol mornings...• histamine intolerance, vision problems (eye floaters/VSS/light sensitivity), tinnitus, muscle twitches...
March 7Mar 7 Author Yesterday I had a follow-up with my psychiatrist and, well, it was a conversation that others here have probably had as well. "It is unlikely that what you're experiencing is withdrawal from the SSRIs at this point. Based on your symptoms, I believe it is either depression or perhaps trauma-related." She didn't suggest taking meds but encouraged me to keep going to therapy because that would be the most helpful. What really struck me was what she said towards the end of our conversation: There are no certainties or uncertainties in our field of work. There are many factors that come into play when assessing someone and it's not always clear what is going on, not even for us. Well, that's great news 😅 So yeah, a clear sign that I shouldn't be looking in the direction of psychiatry anymore 😊 Last night was a good night. I had fun with my friends and I noticed that I was a lot more in the moment and less in my head; scanning less for symptoms and checking less for how I felt. And lo and behold, I felt pretty good! This morning (5:00 am) I woke up with a lot of anxiety and nausea that lasted for a while. I didn't have any alcohol the night before but I did go to sleep late (1:30 am). We're a few hours later and the morning anxiety has settled and I just feel a little groggy and tired. 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 7Mar 7 9 minutes ago, Niels91 said: Yesterday I had a follow-up with my psychiatrist and, well, it was a conversation that others here have probably had as well. "It is unlikely that what you're experiencing is withdrawal from the SSRIs at this point. Based on your symptoms, I believe it is either depression or perhaps trauma-related." She didn't suggest taking meds but encouraged me to keep going to therapy because that would be the most helpful. What really struck me was what she said towards the end of our conversation: There are no certainties or uncertainties in our field of work. There are many factors that come into play when assessing someone and it's not always clear what is going on, not even for us. Well, that's great news 😅 So yeah, a clear sign that I shouldn't be looking in the direction of psychiatry anymore 😊 Last night was a good night. I had fun with my friends and I noticed that I was a lot more in the moment and less in my head; scanning less for symptoms and checking less for how I felt. And lo and behold, I felt pretty good! This morning (5:00 am) I woke up with a lot of anxiety and nausea that lasted for a while. I didn't have any alcohol the night before but I did go to sleep late (1:30 am). We're a few hours later and the morning anxiety has settled and I just feel a little groggy and tired. Hey @Niels91 Sorry about your experience with the psychiatrist. At least she was honest! 🙃 Im not a fan of them as a whole. One day maybe they can be helpful but at the moment most seem to not understand what is actually happening their patients! As you said. Give that a miss! It is great news you enjoyed being out with your friends. And good work avoiding the alcohol. Not good in your condition. Also I think alcohol has a huge effect on peoples mental health IMO. Not being the fun police or anything, just things to think about. 🙂 You seem to be having very typical morning Cortisol reactions. Don't worry. So normal and they will ease over time. You are going great btw! One day at a time 🙂 Chippy I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 7Mar 7 Hey @Niels91! Some unexpected words coming from your psychiatrist. I would say it's positive all in all! One day they might acknowledge protracted withdrawal, but oh, well...! Glad to hear you had fun with friends! 😊 That is something that helps me the most during WD - socializing! (I never thought these words would come out my mouth as I've always been a total introvert.) My morning was pretty much similar to yours, but since I got out of bed I started feeling a little better. We can do this! One day at a time. 😉 My story: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/87-marina-onoffonoff-zoloft-since-end-of-2020/History:• November 2020 - March 2022: 50 mg Zoloft (first WD - mostly mental symptoms)• July and August 2022: psilocybin microdosing• End of August 2022: medium dose psilocybin• January 2023: reinstated Zoloft 50 mg (but probably experinenced adverse reaction/tolerance/poop-out)• October 2024: started slow taper off Zoloft• September 2025: switched to compounded capsules (second WD started - both physical and mental symptoms)• May 2026: still tapering but in liquid form; currently at cca 0,1 mg Symptoms:Windows and waves pattern of healing.In a wave:• severe DP/DR - reality seems strange and creepy and I feel a disconnect from my life, myself, God and the world around me, deep depression, stuck in my head, disinterest for my previous hobbies and work, hopeless, intrusive thoughts, cortisol mornings...• histamine intolerance, vision problems (eye floaters/VSS/light sensitivity), tinnitus, muscle twitches...
March 8Mar 8 I'd strongly suggest avoiding alcohol entirely until you've been fully better for a long time. I always get pushback on this, despite having seen it make many people in withdrawal a lot worse. I have no idea why anyone would risk it. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
March 8Mar 8 41 minutes ago, Luke said: I'd strongly suggest avoiding alcohol entirely until you've been fully better for a long time. I always get pushback on this, despite having seen it make many people in withdrawal a lot worse. I have no idea why anyone would risk it. 1000%! I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
March 8Mar 8 Author Good point, @Luke! I personally haven't had any major setbacks after drinking alcohol (then again, my intake is very limited) but I agree that it's best to not take any chances early on in WD. Better safe than sorry! 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 18Mar 18 Author Hi everyone, A new update with a few changes here and there 😊 The less positive: Anhedonia is still present and I feel like I've hit a plateau. It is the the most annoying and persistent symptom. Looking for a new job is challenging as I feel only little motivation to find something and there is this kind of simmering anxiety when I'm searching. Trying to find purpose and joy in a job seems almost impossible atm. I still feel disconnected from myself and others and my libido is very low at the moment. Music is really hard to enjoy as well. I've also noticed that my brainfog is slightly worse than, say, 3 months ago. Other than that, I don't have a lot of appetite throughout the day. The positive: In the past two weeks I've noticed a significant decrease in anxiety and intrusive thoughts which makes it easier to do things overall. Less aversion towards things as well. My sleep quality is also better: I typically get tired around 10 pm, go to bed shortly after and fall asleep easily. I don't typically wake up during the night. I usually get about 7-8 hours of rest and I wake up feeling ok with just a little bit of morning cortisol. I'm playing badminton twice a week now and I enjoy it to some extent. Walks in the sun also feel somewhat nice and social interactions are somewhat enjoyable. Next week, I'm visiting my doctor to ask for some tests to make sure that I'm physically ok. Wishing you all the best! ❤️ 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 18Mar 18 @Niels91 The positives sound pretty good! I am sure the negatives will ease up in the future as well. 😊 Just remember that symptoms mean the body is working towards healing and getting to the baseline. Sometimes things intensify a bit before they heal. Good luck in your job search and I hope the doctor visit goes well. 😊 My story: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/87-marina-onoffonoff-zoloft-since-end-of-2020/History:• November 2020 - March 2022: 50 mg Zoloft (first WD - mostly mental symptoms)• July and August 2022: psilocybin microdosing• End of August 2022: medium dose psilocybin• January 2023: reinstated Zoloft 50 mg (but probably experinenced adverse reaction/tolerance/poop-out)• October 2024: started slow taper off Zoloft• September 2025: switched to compounded capsules (second WD started - both physical and mental symptoms)• May 2026: still tapering but in liquid form; currently at cca 0,1 mg Symptoms:Windows and waves pattern of healing.In a wave:• severe DP/DR - reality seems strange and creepy and I feel a disconnect from my life, myself, God and the world around me, deep depression, stuck in my head, disinterest for my previous hobbies and work, hopeless, intrusive thoughts, cortisol mornings...• histamine intolerance, vision problems (eye floaters/VSS/light sensitivity), tinnitus, muscle twitches...
March 18Mar 18 6 hours ago, Niels91 said: Looking for a new job is challenging as I feel only little motivation to find something and there is this kind of simmering anxiety when I'm searching. Trying to find purpose and joy in a job seems almost impossible atm. I've been experiencing this too as someone who was let go back in June 2025. I don't think joy and purpose are going to be found in most jobs but something that is at least satisfying helps. Also, having a routine and income also helps. Unemployment benefits only last so long unfortunately. I'm praying for the best outcomes for us to find satisfying jobs we can handle while recovering. Antidepressant History2007ish to Jan 2017 - On and off weekly Prozac capsule, occasional AmbienJan 2017 to July 2018 - Drug free other than occasional AmbienJuly 2018 to Jan 2019 - Mixture of Zyprexa, Zoloft, Ambien on and offFeb 2019 to June 2019 - 10mg of CelexaJune 2019 to Feb/March 2020 - CT or on and off usage of CelexaMarch 2020 - Sept 2020 - 10mg Celexa, 10mg Stratterra, Wellbutrin, AmbienSept 2020 - March 2022 - on and off use of 10mg Celexa and 10mg Prozac. Really can't rememberApril/May 2022 - December 2024 - 10mg to 20mg Lexapro, 10mg AmbienDecember 2024 - CT of 10mg LexaproFebruary 2026 - Took lorazepam that may have caused extreme agitationMarch 9th 2026 - 5mg of Lexapro out of desperation, CT afterApril 1 to 4th 2026 - 2.5mg reinstatement of Lexapro. CT afterMay 14th 2026 - 1mg Lexapro reinstatement, bad side effects, CT afterMay 29th 2026 - "forced" to take Lamictal 25mg and Seroquel 25mg, CT after
March 18Mar 18 On 3/7/2026 at 10:04 AM, Niels91 said: What really struck me was what she said towards the end of our conversation: There are no certainties or uncertainties in our field of work. There are many factors that come into play when assessing someone and it's not always clear what is going on, not even for us. Well, that's great news 😅 So yeah, a clear sign that I shouldn't be looking in the direction of psychiatry anymore 😊 Sorry I’m reacting to an old post but I also saw your recent progress and I am very happy for you! 😆 Sorry for the sharp words that will follow but I sincerely think that we are all deeply able to knowing what is good for us. Instinctively I mean. Besides, isn’t that what we are trying to do in this WD, to find everything that is good for us to keep going? That means we were also able of it before the treatment! It’s an implacable logic. It clearly demonstrates that their "logic" (rellapses and other bullshit) can be easily reversed by concrete examples, it’s precisely for this that they don’t recognize WD and so many other things: what use are they otherwise? In short, uninteresting sadists who pretend to be empathetic. If psychiatrists (but also doctors in general from my experience) are in uncertainty, we are not... I know this now! I also think that it is often fear that drives us to consult them, and fear is often a bad advisor. I am obviously talking about people who completely have all their senses, not those who are on the verge of suicide; or who are out of reality, in theses cases yes, a psychiatrist will be useful, better than death... (And still, given the state of death in which we are immersed during the medication and afterwards, it’s worth wondering, but anyway... for ex something that causes depression to a non-depressed person and which they named antidepressant... should change the name, really!) Their medications are like them : not at all well. We definitely don’t need them. In any case, for me, I really gained very little benefit from all these psychologists, psychiatrists, general practitioners and so on. The worst part is that she manages to discredit herself in so few words. At least, she is honest with herself. It’s all to her honor. And to think that all the other psychiatrists who do not admit this, can look at themselves with pride in their mirror every morning... it’s just shameful. A medicine that is in uncertainty, shouldn't be called medicine... Medicine is based on scientific evidence, not on tatonnement... If they could just look us in the eyes for 30 seconds, instead of distribute their vials of magic poisons, following what their witch grimoire says, that would be convenient! On 3/7/2026 at 10:17 AM, Chippy said: Hey @Niels91 Sorry about your experience with the psychiatrist. At least she was honest! 🙃 Im not a fan of them as a whole. One day maybe they can be helpful You make me laugh too much, @Chippy 🤣 Edited March 18Mar 18 by poulette38 About 1 week of st John's wort then 20-25 october 2025 : escitalopram 10mg (liquid) 18 november- 9 december 2025 : Fluoxétine 20 mg (liquid, 10 ml) - 2 days at 30 mg then return to 20 mg because of side effects. Stop everything on 9th december 2025 (last dose 2mg 9th december). in parallel prazepam drops (3 to 13 drops at the evening), on november 2025. "The devil is a liar and he's smiling." 😈 🌸"The flower that blossoms in adversity is the most beautiful and rare of all." 🌸"Do not take life quite so seriously – you surely will never get out of it alive". Bernard Le Bovier de Fontenelle. ✨️
March 19Mar 19 Author 22 hours ago, poulette38 said: Sorry I’m reacting to an old post but I also saw your recent progress and I am very happy for you! 😆 Sorry for the sharp words that will follow but I sincerely think that we are all deeply able to knowing what is good for us. Instinctively I mean. Besides, isn’t that what we are trying to do in this WD, to find everything that is good for us to keep going? That means we were also able of it before the treatment! It’s an implacable logic. It clearly demonstrates that their "logic" (rellapses and other bullshit) can be easily reversed by concrete examples, it’s precisely for this that they don’t recognize WD and so many other things: what use are they otherwise? In short, uninteresting sadists who pretend to be empathetic. If psychiatrists (but also doctors in general from my experience) are in uncertainty, we are not... I know this now! I also think that it is often fear that drives us to consult them, and fear is often a bad advisor. I am obviously talking about people who completely have all their senses, not those who are on the verge of suicide; or who are out of reality, in theses cases yes, a psychiatrist will be useful, better than death... (And still, given the state of death in which we are immersed during the medication and afterwards, it’s worth wondering, but anyway... for ex something that causes depression to a non-depressed person and which they named antidepressant... should change the name, really!) Their medications are like them : not at all well. We definitely don’t need them. In any case, for me, I really gained very little benefit from all these psychologists, psychiatrists, general practitioners and so on. The worst part is that she manages to discredit herself in so few words. At least, she is honest with herself. It’s all to her honor. And to think that all the other psychiatrists who do not admit this, can look at themselves with pride in their mirror every morning... it’s just shameful. A medicine that is in uncertainty, shouldn't be called medicine... Medicine is based on scientific evidence, not on tatonnement... If they could just look us in the eyes for 30 seconds, instead of distribute their vials of magic poisons, following what their witch grimoire says, that would be convenient! You make me laugh too much, @Chippy 🤣 Hey Poulette, I don't necessarily agree with everything you say but I understand where you come from and I respect your opinion. I am not so much against medical professionals or anti-depressants because I have seen both sides: people with bad experiences and people with good experiences. My opinion is: don't use ADs as a first-line treatment and if someone does decide to take them, then fine, that's their choice but it wouldn't be my recommendation. Also, I would suggest to not use them long-term. For us, the people on this forum, the meds hurt us in some way and have sent us on a path we never wanted to go on. There is so much doubt and uncertainty within us because a lot of medical professionals still deny that PAWS exists from ADs and yet here we are, all of us sharing a similar story. That in itself should make the medical world look into it and take this more seriously. Even with everything that I've been through, everything that I've read and everything that I have watched on Youtube, I still am not sure whether this is still protracted withdrawal or not but I am going to assume that it is. No matter how I look at it, something (or multiple things) clearly has sensitized my nervous system and now it needs time to recover/desensitize. That being said, I find it very peculiar/interesting that there is a considerable amount of people expressing how happy they are to be on ADs, especially on social media. I've seen numerous reels and videos of women and men saying that their zoloft or lexaporo saved their lives, that they are now able to live a normal life. When asked if they can still feel all of their emotions, quite a lot say they do! That was not my experience, unfortunately. I felt very numb and flat after almost 6 months. It's so strange to see that these meds have such varying degrees of effectiveness. For some (like the people I just mentioned) it works really well and makes them feel alive again. For some it doesn't do much. For some it makes them feel worse. It begs the question: why? Why is it so different for every individual? And why do some experience withdrawal and others not so much? Lots of questions that don't have an answer yet. 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 19Mar 19 2 minutes ago, Niels91 said: Hey Poulette, I don't necessarily agree with everything you say but I understand where you come from and I respect your opinion. I am not so much against medical professionals or anti-depressants because I have seen both sides: people with bad experiences and people with good experiences. My opinion is: don't use ADs as a first-line treatment and if someone does decide to take them, then fine, that's their choice but it wouldn't be my recommendation. Also, I would suggest to not use them long-term. For us, the people on this forum, the meds hurt us in some way and have sent us on a path we never wanted to go on. There is so much doubt and uncertainty within us because a lot of medical professionals still deny that PAWS exists from ADs and yet here we are, all of us sharing a similar story. That in itself should make the medical world look into it and take this more seriously. Even with everything that I've been through, everything that I've read and everything that I have watched on Youtube, I still am not sure whether this is still protracted withdrawal or not but I am going to assume that it is. No matter how I look at it, something (or multiple things) clearly has sensitized my nervous system and now it needs time to recover/desensitize. That being said, I find it very peculiar/interesting that there is a considerable amount of people expressing how happy they are to be on ADs, especially on social media. I've seen numerous reels and videos of women and men saying that their zoloft or lexaporo saved their lives, that they are now able to live a normal life. When asked if they can still feel all of their emotions, quite a lot say they do! That was not my experience, unfortunately. I felt very numb and flat after almost 6 months. It's so strange to see that these meds have such varying degrees of effectiveness. For some (like the people I just mentioned) it works really well and makes them feel alive again. For some it doesn't do much. For some it makes them feel worse. It begs the question: why? Why is it so different for every individual? And why do some experience withdrawal and others not so much? Lots of questions that don't have an answer yet. Hi @Niels91 my theory to this is gut flora, our gut flora influences how our brain works as it signals the cns I believe if some people take a antidepressant and it upsets there gut flora it can cause all types of symptoms. This is why I believe I have anhedonia I had a gut test and my bacteria’s are wrecked. It goes into detail on several parts of the body and I can relate so much. For example the only sleep problem I have is getting to sleep on my sleep profile on my test they are all good apart from one which is marked red and it says sleep onset. I have bad libido and all the bacteria’s affecting that are red. Same with my anhedonia the gut to brain axis is all red aswell. Obv this is just a theory but from my results it’s pretty similar to what I experience. Some people it must not effect as bad so we must be either sensitive or have problems in the flora before we take it. hope your feeling a better Mirtazapine for 3 weeks august 2025 15mg made me numb didn’t know why took an overdose of 10x 15mg tablets. reinstated at 11 weeks due to symptoms and inpatient stay. currently on 3.75mg mirtazapine symptoms/ anhedonia, slightly blurred vision, tinnitus, toxic naps depression, anxiety, pins and needles
March 19Mar 19 1 hour ago, Niels91 said: Hey Poulette, I don't necessarily agree with everything you say but I understand where you come from and I respect your opinion. I am not so much against medical professionals or anti-depressants because I have seen both sides: people with bad experiences and people with good experiences. My opinion is: don't use ADs as a first-line treatment and if someone does decide to take them, then fine, that's their choice but it wouldn't be my recommendation. Also, I would suggest to not use them long-term. For us, the people on this forum, the meds hurt us in some way and have sent us on a path we never wanted to go on. There is so much doubt and uncertainty within us because a lot of medical professionals still deny that PAWS exists from ADs and yet here we are, all of us sharing a similar story. That in itself should make the medical world look into it and take this more seriously. Even with everything that I've been through, everything that I've read and everything that I have watched on Youtube, I still am not sure whether this is still protracted withdrawal or not but I am going to assume that it is. No matter how I look at it, something (or multiple things) clearly has sensitized my nervous system and now it needs time to recover/desensitize. That being said, I find it very peculiar/interesting that there is a considerable amount of people expressing how happy they are to be on ADs, especially on social media. I've seen numerous reels and videos of women and men saying that their zoloft or lexaporo saved their lives, that they are now able to live a normal life. When asked if they can still feel all of their emotions, quite a lot say they do! That was not my experience, unfortunately. I felt very numb and flat after almost 6 months. It's so strange to see that these meds have such varying degrees of effectiveness. For some (like the people I just mentioned) it works really well and makes them feel alive again. For some it doesn't do much. For some it makes them feel worse. It begs the question: why? Why is it so different for every individual? And why do some experience withdrawal and others not so much? Lots of questions that don't have an answer yet. Hi @Niels91 I think they are useful for their actual indications. It seems silly to say but they are too often prescribed outside their framework. That’s why, in my opinion, we can blame the medical community: they prescribe them too often in cases where, as you say, they should not be prescribed as a first intention. It is their job to give informed consent to the patient just as it is their job to prescribe correctly. We can’t do that, we don’t have the skills for. So I maintain my opinion and everyone can have their own on this subject because we all have different life experiences. I think that since their discipline exists, how can they don't know about the withdrawal syndrome and everything else? It’s lying to us. Even if I don’t want to generalize, some must be excellent and honest. Unfortunately, it seems that those who are aware of WD have experienced this, like Dr. Mark Horowitz. As I said, someone with severe depression cannot stay in this condition and the medication are indicated in his case (it's just an ex). That’s why some say they saved their lives, and it’s probably true. But as I said, they should be only reserved for these severe cases. I asked myself the same question as you, why some people can support them? As you say we really don't know all their effects on a human body. Which is quite worrying. It’s just unlucky for people who can’t stand them. Moreover, beware of what is said on social media. Do you personally know these people? By my experience, all those I know or knew have had a bad experience with these medications, or are still on medication. It led some people I knew to suicide. It exists and it must also be said. A 16-year-old killed himself after taking these medications recently in my country. I am grateful for this forum because even if we don't know each other, we endure the same thing on many points. 🤍 About 1 week of st John's wort then 20-25 october 2025 : escitalopram 10mg (liquid) 18 november- 9 december 2025 : Fluoxétine 20 mg (liquid, 10 ml) - 2 days at 30 mg then return to 20 mg because of side effects. Stop everything on 9th december 2025 (last dose 2mg 9th december). in parallel prazepam drops (3 to 13 drops at the evening), on november 2025. "The devil is a liar and he's smiling." 😈 🌸"The flower that blossoms in adversity is the most beautiful and rare of all." 🌸"Do not take life quite so seriously – you surely will never get out of it alive". Bernard Le Bovier de Fontenelle. ✨️
March 21Mar 21 Author On 3/19/2026 at 8:02 PM, Richie said: Hi @Niels91 my theory to this is gut flora, our gut flora influences how our brain works as it signals the cns I believe if some people take a antidepressant and it upsets there gut flora it can cause all types of symptoms. This is why I believe I have anhedonia I had a gut test and my bacteria’s are wrecked. It goes into detail on several parts of the body and I can relate so much. For example the only sleep problem I have is getting to sleep on my sleep profile on my test they are all good apart from one which is marked red and it says sleep onset. I have bad libido and all the bacteria’s affecting that are red. Same with my anhedonia the gut to brain axis is all red aswell. Obv this is just a theory but from my results it’s pretty similar to what I experience. Some people it must not effect as bad so we must be either sensitive or have problems in the flora before we take it. hope your feeling a better Hi @Richie, appreciate you chiming in. This is interesting, indeed. Did you ask your personal doctor to do these tests or did you have to consult a specialist? And did the doctor suggest anything after you had your results? I saw a Netflix documentary not too long ago that talked about the gut-brain axis and how the microbiome in the gut has a significant effect on our wellbeing. Fascinating stuff. All in all, I'm doing pretty well this week. How about yourself? 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 21Mar 21 3 minutes ago, Niels91 said: Hi @Richie, appreciate you chiming in. This is interesting, indeed. Did you ask your personal doctor to do these tests or did you have to consult a specialist? And did the doctor suggest anything after you had your results? I saw a Netflix documentary not too long ago that talked about the gut-brain axis and how the microbiome in the gut has a significant effect on our wellbeing. Fascinating stuff. All in all, I'm doing pretty well this week. How about yourself? I had a comprehensive gut test done, it Has so much detail on it. My doctor agreed to the gut brain axis but tbh she isn’t the best to talk to as she just thinks Im depressed when I have no reason to be. The gut test also says what to eat, problem is some of the bacteria which I have is completely not detected and I haven’t found a way to restore them. This could explain why some people suffer for so long maybe… Im not great mate was better last week but back to the dark hole I was in now for 6 days. Edited March 21Mar 21 by Richie Mirtazapine for 3 weeks august 2025 15mg made me numb didn’t know why took an overdose of 10x 15mg tablets. reinstated at 11 weeks due to symptoms and inpatient stay. currently on 3.75mg mirtazapine symptoms/ anhedonia, slightly blurred vision, tinnitus, toxic naps depression, anxiety, pins and needles
March 21Mar 21 Author 1 hour ago, Richie said: I had a comprehensive gut test done, it Has so much detail on it. My doctor agreed to the gut brain axis but tbh she isn’t the best to talk to as she just thinks Im depressed when I have no reason to be. The gut test also says what to eat, problem is some of the bacteria which I have is completely not detected and I haven’t found a way to restore them. This could explain why some people suffer for so long maybe… Im not great mate was better last week but back to the dark hole I was in now for 6 days. @Richie quite interesting! I find it strange that you can't restore some of these bacteria. I would assume you could get all of them from certain foods, no? It's probably more complex than that... I wish you the best mate and I hope you start feeling better soon! We will get out of this at some point 😊 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 25Mar 25 Author Today marks 10 months off my AD and what an adventure it has been so far. So much has happened in the past 2.5 years and I never expected to be here and sharing this road to recovery with so many others. Looking back, I have made a great deal of progress. I was able to understand my anxiety and why it had become disordered. Thanks to therapy (for the most part) and my AD (for the lesser part), I was able to establish a new relationship with that emotion and the many sensations, thoughts and OCD-like tendencies that came with it. I gained a sense of achievement and I was proud that anxiety didn't have that chokehold on my life anymore. And then came the dreaded numbness/flattening from my AD, about 5 months after I started taking it. Since then, it has been a very bumpy road with lots of doubt, uncertainty and frustration. At 10 months off, I can say that quite a few of my withdrawal symptoms have improved and some have disappeared. For now, I still experience avolition, aversion, muscle contractions, anhedonia, a little bit of anxiety, sometimes negative and racing thoughts, low libido and very low appetite. I want you to know that I appreciate your support, I really do. Not to mention the fact that most people on here are going through withdrawal themselves and still find the energy to support others is truly exceptional. I look forward to the time where we are recovered, hopefully sooner rather than later! Lots of love, Niels 2023-06: started trazodone, 50 mg2023-10: lowered dose to 25 mg2023-11: 0 mg 2023-07-04: started paroxetine, 20 mg2023-07-30: increased dose to 30 mg2023-08-26: lowered dose to 20 mg2024-03-21: lowered dose to 10 mg2024-07-10: lowered dose to 5 mg2024-07-26: 0 mg 2024-08-14: reinstated on another AD, this time 10 mg of escitalopram2024-11-24: lowered dose to 7.5 mg2025-01-15: lowered dose to 5 mg2025-03-01: lowered dose to 3.75 mg (with pill cutter)2025-03-26: lowered dose to 2.5 mg (with pill cutter)2025-04-23: lowered dose to 1.25 mg (with pill cutter)2025-05-24: 0 mg Started Rosuvastatin in October 2024 due to high cholesterol.On a break from this med from April 2026 until July 2026.Started taking Rosuvastatin again at the end of July 2026. Current supplements: None at the moment
March 25Mar 25 @Niels91 So glad you see the improvements. In time it will all level out and get better/heal completely. You're on the right path. My story: https://antidepressantrecovery.org/topic/87-marina-onoffonoff-zoloft-since-end-of-2020/History:• November 2020 - March 2022: 50 mg Zoloft (first WD - mostly mental symptoms)• July and August 2022: psilocybin microdosing• End of August 2022: medium dose psilocybin• January 2023: reinstated Zoloft 50 mg (but probably experinenced adverse reaction/tolerance/poop-out)• October 2024: started slow taper off Zoloft• September 2025: switched to compounded capsules (second WD started - both physical and mental symptoms)• May 2026: still tapering but in liquid form; currently at cca 0,1 mg Symptoms:Windows and waves pattern of healing.In a wave:• severe DP/DR - reality seems strange and creepy and I feel a disconnect from my life, myself, God and the world around me, deep depression, stuck in my head, disinterest for my previous hobbies and work, hopeless, intrusive thoughts, cortisol mornings...• histamine intolerance, vision problems (eye floaters/VSS/light sensitivity), tinnitus, muscle twitches...
March 25Mar 25 1 hour ago, Niels91 said: Today marks 10 months off my AD and what an adventure it has been so far. So much has happened in the past 2.5 years and I never expected to be here and sharing this road to recovery with so many others. Looking back, I have made a great deal of progress. I was able to understand my anxiety and why it had become disordered. Thanks to therapy (for the most part) and my AD (for the lesser part), I was able to establish a new relationship with that emotion and the many sensations, thoughts and OCD-like tendencies that came with it. I gained a sense of achievement and I was proud that anxiety didn't have that chokehold on my life anymore. And then came the dreaded numbness/flattening from my AD, about 5 months after I started taking it. Since then, it has been a very bumpy road with lots of doubt, uncertainty and frustration. At 10 months off, I can say that quite a few of my withdrawal symptoms have improved and some have disappeared. For now, I still experience avolition, aversion, muscle contractions, anhedonia, a little bit of anxiety, sometimes negative and racing thoughts, low libido and very low appetite. I want you to know that I appreciate your support, I really do. Not to mention the fact that most people on here are going through withdrawal themselves and still find the energy to support others is truly exceptional. I look forward to the time where we are recovered, hopefully sooner rather than later! Lots of love, Niels Thank you for this update @Niels91 wishing you much success on the rest of your journey, may it go as smoothly as possible. seems that you took the reins into your hands and doing serious self work, that's really great and the right path to walk through, although the hardest but the most rewarding one! as you continue to walk the other symptoms will disappear as well. keep doing great, much love back to you, take good care. Edited March 25Mar 25 by Fullhealing 1998 forced on cipramil *no anxiety/depression background*Over the years all kinds of SSRI/SNRI/antipsychotics/stabilizers due to apparently side effects/withdrawalMany attempts to quit over the years with failure (extremely rapid taper followed by doctors' guidens)Current attempt-Paxil 20 mg:6/24 20 mg to 5 mg-severe AKA9/24 Increase to 20-AKA continues10/24 stopped completely-AKA out of control 11/24 Zoloft bridge attempt-25 mg to 75 mg+Seroquel-AKA continued-stopped them CT.12/24 Back on Paxil 10mg (0.1789g)-some stabilization-from here tapered by about 30% each time (don't remember doses and dates).2025 - 7.10 0.0558g (3.11mg)/7.11 3% 0.0541g (3.02mg)/4.12 1% 0.0535g (2.98mg)2026 - 3.1 1.5% 0.0526g (2.93mg)/9.1 8.5% 0.0480g (2.68mg)/16.2 1.8% 0.0470g (2.62mg)/21.3 1% 0.466 (2.60mg)/23.4 2.2% 0.455g (2.54mg)/8.7 21.7% 0.0356.5g (2mg)/15.8 updose by 11.7% 0.0400g (2.23mg)Supplements:Magnesium Glycinate - started 28.5.26 1 capsule 200mg in the morning - Increased brain fog and muscle stiffness - stopped after two weeks.Iron - liquid, quarter of recommended dose - increased anxiety and burning sensation - stopped after two weeks.Saffron - started 8.7.26 1 capsule 30mg in the morning - pretty immediate improvement in terms of terror, body pain and sleep.
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