sorry I meant drip not drink

And I think I have this belief that if I taper too fast I’m going to permanently damage and not recover so that’s why I’m asking about how bad you felt before dropping again. Like any way TJ share specially how your depression anxiety and si were when you’d choose to drop?

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24 minutes ago, Need to End said:

sorry I meant drip not drink

And I think I have this belief that if I taper too fast I’m going to permanently damage and not recover so that’s why I’m asking about how bad you felt before dropping again. Like any way TJ share specially how your depression anxiety and si were when you’d choose to drop?

Based on the experience of many members here and on other sites, even if you went CT, there’s no such thing as permanent damage, but it does make recovery a lot more difficult. That’s why we advocate for a nice slow steady taper.

My anxiety was often overwhelming as I tapered. My health anxiety was through the roof and I was constantly catastrophizing. But I stuck with my taper because I wanted to be done and I knew I’d recover eventually. Bear in mind I was seeing a therapist throughout this time and he helped me get through the worst times. I can’t emphasize using coping skills enough. Even when it seems hopeless, you have to stick with coping methods. They’ll start working for you as well.

Ty - I don’t know how to express it sufficiently. I’m a paranoid wreck and you are graceful.

I feel the same way you do - just want to get through it. I am sobbing daily and all the other symptoms you know about so I’m like when is too soon. I feel really debilitated but want to be off so my gage for when to taper is non existent. I just don’t have any barometer for it and also don’t want to end up. Suffering for years because I did something wrong.

I understand and know where you’re coming from. There really isn’t an objective barometer to gauge a taper. I wouldn’t worry about suffering for years, or doing something “wrong”. Our bodies are amazing and will heal. We just need to help it do its job by being kind to ourselves and adopting practices that will help our nervous systems settle as much as possible.

14 hours ago, Need to End said:

Ty - I don’t know how to express it sufficiently. I’m a paranoid wreck and you are graceful.

I feel the same way you do - just want to get through it. I am sobbing daily and all the other symptoms you know about so I’m like when is too soon. I feel really debilitated but want to be off so my gage for when to taper is non existent. I just don’t have any barometer for it and also don’t want to end up. Suffering for years because I did something wrong.

How did your drop from 1.4 to 1.35 go? Did it turn out being like your other reductions? If so,I'd take that as more of a positive than a negative.🙂

I am having a really hard time today. Last night I went out with a girl and played pool. When I went into the bathroom a guy apparently quickly came over and hit on her while I as in the bathroom. This kind of thing has never happened before and it’s a sign that I am losing who I am - a guy would never come uniting a girl I was with and hit on her. I feel like nothing small insignificant that he felt it was safe to do that. Then after she shut him down later as I was walking toward him he was like “hey bro your jacked congrats you obviously work out a lot” to me??

Have you ever had a guy hit in a girl like this when you’re out? It’s total disrespect and makes me feel more like I’m losing who I am physically and all.

1 hour ago, Need to End said:

This kind of thing has never happened before and it’s a sign that I am losing who I am - a guy would never come uniting a girl I was with and hit on her. I

The guy was a jerk and that has nothing to do with you or who you are. The fact your companion blew him off proves that. As I've said before, your anxious mind is reading way too much into every incident and turning it into impending doom. You should be happy she handled it so well and it didn't get unpleasant.

Just feel like how dare a guy do that and this has never happened to me. I feel like its me. Im just feeling low. Things just keep caving in.

@Gaucho I think i feel pretty much the same. I think that circumstantial things have made me feel more depressed so I don't know if its the drop or not.

15 hours ago, Need to End said:

@Gaucho I think i feel pretty much the same. I think that circumstantial things have made me feel more depressed so I don't know if its the drop or not.

Got it. In your shoes, Id proceed with tapering as you were doing from 1.45 to 1.40, instead of longer holds like from 1.40 to 1.35.

I’m not sure I follow?

3 hours ago, Need to End said:

I’m not sure I follow?

Okay. I'm seeing on your taper schedule you had dropped to 1.45 on Aug 4 and held that for 8 days. If I were you, I'd be pacing it similar to that, rather than the long hold you did once you dropped to 1.4.

It's up to you. I'm just saying what id do trying to get off this med sooner than later but safely.

oh okay, sorry that makes sense now. Im so scared that I fall into some deep dark hole but also just want to be done!

What’s the worst that can happen if I drop .05 every week or so until zero?

11 hours ago, Need to End said:

What’s the worst that can happen if I drop .05 every week or so until zero?

Impossible to answer,my friend. And what is "worst" is a matter of opinion.

Ok I dropped. This has to end as I’m losing more and just getting older every day I can’t do much more of this

I feel like I can’t work and have absolute zero hope and am tired and dizzy and just don’t want to move and have been really critical of my physical appearance. Is this all normal? It feels like hell. I’m worried existentially about everything. Has anyone had a whole 2.5 yrs like this and is this normal for that long? Pls help

Edited September 2Sep 2 by Need to End

3 hours ago, Need to End said:

I feel like I can’t work and have absolute zero hope and am tired and dizzy and just don’t want to move and have been really critical of my physical appearance. Is this all normal? It feels like hell. I’m worried existentially about everything. Has anyone had a whole 2.5 yrs like this and is this normal for that long? Pls help

Yes, unfortunately it’s completely normal for someone in WD. Accept that these thoughts are being driven by your destabilized nervous system and have no basis in reality, and they’ll ease up a bit. And try to distract yourself when the thoughts come. You’re a lot more functional than some other members, so take some time to get outside and notice the world around you. Look for positive life affirming things so you’re not always trapped in your own head.

It’s got to get easier this is insane

Am I failing if I’m sleeping in late and going to bed early

5 hours ago, Need to End said:

It’s got to get easier this is insane

Time mate, over time things will improve, just gotta keep our coping skills up until things do.

5 hours ago, Need to End said:

Am I failing if I’m sleeping in late and going to bed early

Get the sleep when you can mate, personally sleeping at more normal times makes the most sense, it's naturally in us to sleep at night, however if you are sleeping thats good. Gotta do what works for you!

My lifting coach's brother in law just took his own life and guess what...he was weaning off of SSRI's. This guy had plenty of money and was still married. I am freaking out.

1 minute ago, Need to End said:

My lifting coach's brother in law just took his own life and guess what...he was weaning off of SSRI's. This guy had plenty of money and was still married. I am freaking out.

I'm very sorry to hear that, @Need to End, but each person has his or her own reasons for doing what they do. You have plenty of support right here and we can get you through it.

How can I believe I can make it if this guy was in better shape than me and chose that?

1 minute ago, Need to End said:

How can I believe I can make it if this guy was in better shape than me and chose that?

You have no idea what the story behind his death is. Try not to project your problems on his situation and vice-versa.