February 8Feb 8 Author 2 minutes ago, Chippy said: You were right. Just a bit of time is all it takes and the answer will speak to you. Chippy Thanks @Chippy much appreciated, its just the wave mind can't see any answers yet. PWD renders one useless to conduct business in any way, hell we are struggling to just keep our bodily functions under control never mind anything else, we are RELYING on an incredibly elusive window to perform anything rational. So yes it's basically down to pure LUCK at the moment mate.🤞🤔 Take care, B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 8Feb 8 3 minutes ago, NT1100B said: Thanks @Chippy much appreciated, its just the wave mind can't see any answers yet. PWD renders one useless to conduct business in any way, hell we are struggling to just keep our bodily functions under control never mind anything else, we are RELYING on an incredibly elusive window to perform anything rational. So yes it's basically down to pure LUCK at the moment mate.🤞🤔 Take care, B.🤞 Got it crossed you get a solution shortly. 💪👍 I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 8Feb 8 Hi @NT1100B sorry about the car, financially things are not great in WD. I’m sorry. I also have terrible morning corisol at the moment, ongoing in this wave. its HORRID. mine in a wave often doesn’t pass to be honest it just stays around all day. its my main Symtom. and it sucks. Chemical anxiety is 💩 hope today lifts for you. My brief window Friday evening disappeared and back in a wave yesterday. onwards and upwards! rosie - Compazine injury following surgery used as an anti nausea drug Feb 2023, led to agitation and racing thoughts - tried to cope med free, advised to start Prozac May 2023 20mg - made me worse but was told to persevere, believe I had an adverse reaction. - decided to taper after 6 months of use at 20mg. Went down over 14/15 months to 1.5mg. - February 2025 came off 1.5mg due to feeling good and didn’t know this would lead to such strong WD
February 8Feb 8 Author 4 minutes ago, Chippy said: Got it crossed you get a solution shortly. 💪👍 Cheers @Chippy I am praying. B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 8Feb 8 Author 1 minute ago, Its-me-Rosie said: hope today lifts for you. My brief window Friday evening disappeared and back in a wave yesterday. onwards and upwards! rosie Hi @Its-me-Rosie thanks and very much appreciated. I am very sorry you are suffering the same Rosie, you are right it's horrible beyond belief, early awakenings are horrific, and if we try to sleep again it get's even worse, we truly are in a living hell, I am sending you all the spiritual strength I can Rosie, I think there is a select few who are like us in the more severe form, our brains have been ultra sensitized. BUT we WILL get though it, we will persevere with ALL OUR MIGHT. Keep gently plodding Rosie.🤞 Take great care, B. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🤞🌷 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 8Feb 8 Morning B. I know your PWD is getting damned old. It’s exhausting mentally and physically for sure. Then there’s all of life’s little nagging problems to solve which on a normal day would be not that big of a deal. But when one is so worn and exhausted the simplest mole hill seems like climbing Mt. Everest. But I guess all one can do is take it one minute, hour, day at a time. I wish I had a magic wand I could share. Wishing you the best. Edited February 8Feb 8 by Pokey449 Pokeys Topic Pokeys Archived Dose hHistory Current Medication: 2.5mg of nebivolol for BP 5mg Eliquis x2. Vitamin D, 40mg Famotidine PRN Magnesium glycinate ,5mg melatonin 20 March 2025 - Mirtazapine - 7.5mg (+41.5%) 20 Feb 2026 - Doxepin 29.6mg (0.6mg updose)
February 8Feb 8 Glad to see you are getting better periods b, have been following your thread on SA when I wake up I normally check to see if your wave ended looks like it is my friend. ❤️👌👊 Mirtazapine for 3 weeks august 2025 15mg made me numb didn’t know why took an overdose of 10x 15mg tablets. reinstated at 11 weeks due to symptoms and inpatient stay. currently on 3.75mg mirtazapine symptoms/ anhedonia, slightly blurred vision, tinnitus, toxic naps depression, anxiety, pins and needles
February 8Feb 8 Author 2 hours ago, Pokey449 said: But when one is so worn and exhausted the simplest mole hill seems like climbing Mt. Everest. But I guess all one can do is take it one minute, hour, day at a time. I wish I had a magic wand I could share. Wishing you the best. Hey thanks @Pokey449 we are fighting this s**t together, yes you are right the problem I have just had with the car shook me up proper, a wave mind thinking, still fragile mate. Now I was thinking about them monitor you sleeping Pokey, HOW can it be a proper test if they give you a Benzo????? That has skewed it right away. What method of thinking do they possess??? No wonder we are in the state we are in with lack of proper knowledge from SO CALLED experts (not) Anyway I hope you are doing OK my good man. We are with you all the way. Take care, B.🤞🙏👍 Edited February 8Feb 8 by NT1100B spelling 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 8Feb 8 Author Hi all, well a fairly miserable day fluctuating between 0-3 all day, more lows than highs though, a weird day really. Now I have been looking at other cars on the internet, but I ain't going to get a huge amount more than I have paid out on it this last year, with a rough estimate of what this last Bill will maybe be I will have spent £1800, and asking AI it says I have just repaired most of the hardest wearing parts so..... So yes my mind has been mulling over that and the motorbike and PWD all day, so hence been miserable and flat, but every so often lifting a bit....but then dropping again, like I say a weird day. But anyway I will see how the night goes, damned keyboard is playing up, is that my next breakage????? it won't drop a line not sure what's up, so yes it will be another sleep reset, and horrible awakening as NORMAL. But it's onwards and upwards I plod. . Take care all, B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 8Feb 8 It's difficult to make big decisions in this, and it affects our thinking so much. I try to put off decisions for when my thinking feels at least somewhat clear. Nothing I say is medical advice, it is simply my opinion. I am an anonymous person on an internet forum with no relevant qualifications other than being badly harmed by a drug. For all you know, I could be an idiot. You are making your own decisions and part of that is deciding how much to listen to my opinion, if at all. Perhaps you should consider this post an artistic work of fiction written for entertainment purposes. Story from SA: LukeUK: Remeron/Mirtazapine Severe Withdrawal - Introductions and updates - Surviving Antidepressants 15mg Remeron/Mirtazapine November starting 2022 (severe physical side effects) Attempted to taper off January 2023, ended up having a major breakdown and going up to 30mg, took weeks to stabilise 1 month taper to 0mg Last dose April 2023 Severe withdrawal syndrome with many physical symptoms Summary: 5 months using Mirtazapine, including 1 month taper ending late April 2023.
February 8Feb 8 I think worrying about money and having that as an added stress doesn’t help at all. imagine if tomorrow you were gifted 1 million! Your WD wouldn’t go away, but the extra stress, worry and second fear would… I just think it doesn’t help. something like that would send me in to a spin too, I had to sort my car when my work car went back in December when I quit the NHS after 9 months sick. I had to order a new car and work out what we could afford and just doing the paperwork was so exhausting! I’ve lifted in to a dirty window today from about 10.30am. Fingers crossed it lasts. It’s the best window I’ve had for 2.5 weeks xx - Compazine injury following surgery used as an anti nausea drug Feb 2023, led to agitation and racing thoughts - tried to cope med free, advised to start Prozac May 2023 20mg - made me worse but was told to persevere, believe I had an adverse reaction. - decided to taper after 6 months of use at 20mg. Went down over 14/15 months to 1.5mg. - February 2025 came off 1.5mg due to feeling good and didn’t know this would lead to such strong WD
February 8Feb 8 Sorry that you’ve had a tough day B, not surprising as others have said with the stress and worry over the car. I hope you can give yourself some grace over the fact that you’ve navigated a tough week with alot of strength and determination and are understandably rung out from it. Sending you some ease 🙏, take care 3 weeks Paxil around 2002 I think can’t really remember. CT no issues except for a few head zaps.1 day Citalopram Dec 201710/07/25 - Mirtazapine 7.5mg19/07 - 15mg, 01/08 7.5mg, 15/08 dissolving orodispersible tablets for easier measuring 6mg, 22/08 5mg, 04/09 4mg, 18/09 3mg, 02/10 2.5mg, 16/10 2mg, 30/10 1.5mg, 13/11 1.2mg taper paused due to WD symptoms, had a window 17th March continuous improvement until early June when I went back into a moderate but manageable wave after overdoing things until early July when taking omeprazole for gastritis pushed me into another bad wave. Still waiting to stabilise before proceeding with taper.Supplements - 100mg magnesium glycinate daily.Other meds - Omeprazole 20mg a day when gastritis flares - realised after taking this for 8 days end of June ‘26 I was experiencing some WD symptoms again and researched to find PPIs block the liver enzymes used to metabolise a lot of antidepressants artificially raising blood levels. Stopped omeprazole and 2 weeks later back into a bad wave as my body has reacted as if I’ve updosed and then dropped again.Post menopausal GP has prescribed HRT but have not started as don’t want to confuse my system while tapering.
February 9Feb 9 23 hours ago, Chippy said: I enjoy this 🤣 We're all glad you're amused Chippy boy, as you guys amuse the heck out of us. 😅😂🤣 Sept 1993 Began paroxetine 20 mg for anxiety and depression- worked like a charm. 1st taper - Aug 1995 tapered over 3 weeks before getting pregnant- great at first, crashed at one month. White knuckled it through 2 miscarriages. Spring 1996 (?) Reinstated paroxetine 20 mg. 2nd taper- Spring 2008 tapered off paroxetine over 4 months. Summer 2008 crashed horribly, nearly incapacitated by WD; Summer 2008-Summer 2009 tried 4 different ADs, none as effective as paroxetine. Summer 2009 Reinstated 20 mg paroxetine, not as effective as previously. 3rd taper- Jun 19, 2019 began 10 mg paroxetine, 10 mg fluoxetine for one week. Jun 26 20 mg fluoxetine, 5 mg paroxetine for one week. Jul 3- 20 mg fluoxetine + lorazepam (0.5 mg) as needed up to 2x/day. Aug 12- 30 mg fluox; Sept 3- .5 mg clonazepam daily; end lorazepam; Sept 5- 40 mg fluox; End of 2019- returned to paroxetine 20 mg/day most of the year, 30mg/day in the winter. BEGIN 4th TAPER ATTEMPT: Jul 13 2025- 30 -> 25 mg; 10 Sept -> 22.5mg; 3 Oct -> 20 mg; 10 Oct -> hold 2 weeks; 2 Nov -> 19.5 mg; 9 Nov -> 19 mg; 16 Nov -> hold 1 week; 22 Nov -> 18.6 mg; 30 Nov -> 18.2 mg; 7 Dec -> hold 1 week; 14 Dec -> 17.8 mg; 21 Dec -> 17.5 mg; 28 Dec -> 17.1 mg; 4 Jan 2026 -> 16.7 mg -> hold 2 weeks ; 28 Jan -> 16.4 mg; 1 Feb -> 16.0 mg; 8 Feb -> 15.7 mg; 15 Feb -> hold 2 weeks; 1 Mar -> 15.5 mg; 8 Mar -> 15.2 mg; 15 Mar -> hold; 5 Apr -> 14.9. Supplements: Vit D, Magesium L-threonate, Vit C, Zinc, Melatonin, Multivitamin
February 9Feb 9 Author 10 hours ago, Its-me-Rosie said: I’ve lifted in to a dirty window today from about 10.30am. Fingers crossed it lasts. It’s the best window I’ve had for 2.5 weeks xx Hi @Its-me-Rosie I am pleased you have lifted Rosie, that gives you some relief from the living hell at least I am hoping it becomes a clearer window and lasts until you recover. I have awoke in horrible state first thing but have calmed down and have lifted a bit now after my walk, 4.30am now. So fingers crossed for our day ahead. Take care Rosie and wishing you all the best. B.🙏🤞🌷 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 Author 9 hours ago, Emsy said: Sending you some ease 🙏, take care Thanks @Emsy That means a lot. I hope you are doing better, yes in wd our minds are very fragile to stressful situations like the car breaking down, on a tight budget at the moment and the wave brain catastrophizes things dramatically, NOT GOOD. But onwards we plod, the end goal is the same, we WANT to RECOVER and live again.🤞 Take great care, B.🤞🙏🌷💙 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 41 minutes ago, gardengirl2 said: We're all glad you're amused Chippy boy, as you guys amuse the heck out of us. 😅😂🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so funny. I feel the need to launch into some Cockney rhyming slang! I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 9Feb 9 Author 10 hours ago, Luke said: I try to put off decisions for when my thinking feels at least somewhat clear. Thanks @Luke yes that's wise thinking, No decisions with a wave mind. The thing is by the the time this bill is paid, as I said above, I won't get a huge amount more for it, the one that's the fear is the bloody electric hand brake, according what I have seen online it can be manually unwound, some mechanism in the boot, I will confirm this when I pick the car up. So that and starter motor. Tyres are as new, I already have new brake pads ready waiting for front brakes. SO a tricky one.🤔 Take care, B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 Author Morning all, long back off my 3.30am walk, wet out this morning so brolly needed, but rain eased as I got home. So I awoke on a 1 this morning feeling horrible as normal, but I have lifted to a 3 now, so 🤞 how the day pans out. Keyboard, touch wood seems to be back to normal this morning, when I shut it down last night I went over it with the hoover, quite a lot of crumbs on it.🤣 So what's today going to bring? I don't think my car will be fixed today, although it shouldn't take long to fit an alternator. Well that's if that was the problem and there isn't other things wrong. But no, I think now it will be that, as the battery should have been charged with a 120miles run. So 🤞. Decisions on the motorbike this week as well, but really I didn't want to spend on another car when I need the money for living expenses while still in PWD. Spoke too soon with keyboard, playing up again. Surely not MORE expense. Well the day is deteriorating already, not good Oh well it will be what it will be, lets just keep plodding.🤞 Take care all, B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 34 minutes ago, NT1100B said: I awoke on a 1 this morning feeling horrible as normal, but I have lifted to a 3 now, so 🤞 how the day pans out. Morning mate. Good to see you still breaking the sleep reset early on. Continued positive signs here for sure. 35 minutes ago, NT1100B said: Keyboard, touch wood seems to be back to normal this morning, when I shut it down last night I went over it with the hoover, quite a lot of crumbs on it.🤣 Yes you need it to hold out for you!!! Not another thing. The crumb comment made me laugh though. So cars going in today right? And you think new alternator giving off dodgy voltage and hence the random electrical faults everywhere. Makes sense. I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 9Feb 9 Author 13 minutes ago, Chippy said: So cars going in today right? And you think new alternator giving off dodgy voltage and hence the random electrical faults everywhere. Makes sense. No @Chippy Stranded at Supermarket Saturday, car dead, all 4 wheels locked, couldn't lock the car so breakdown truck needed, After loading we went around garages until we found one that could fix it. So it's been there since 10am Saturday morning. I am just guessing what's wrong for now. But we think that might be the one.🤞 I will find out this week. Take care, B.🤞 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 41 minutes ago, NT1100B said: No @Chippy Stranded at Supermarket Saturday, car dead, all 4 wheels locked, couldn't lock the car so breakdown truck needed, After loading we went around garages until we found one that could fix it. So it's been there since 10am Saturday morning. I am just guessing what's wrong for now. But we think that might be the one.🤞 I will find out this week. Take care, B.🤞 Got you. I missed the bit about the recovery to a garage. Well I hope they find the issue today bud. This IS the last thing you need. 🤞 I’m not a medical professional and cannot offer medical advice. I only offer my thoughts as support. Please speak to your health practitioner about your care. This is a peer site where we support each other on our taper/recovery journeys. If you are from the UK please make sure you fill in a 'Yellow Card' report for the MHRA. It is you doing your bit to help make a difference.Please take the time to do it today 🙂 https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.ukFor US members details here.
February 9Feb 9 Hope your day improves @NT1100B Just thinking, do you get out for fresh air at sunrise? That can help the brain the most to regulate sleep, going out at sunrise then getting as much light during the day as possible. Just wondering if you’d try a 6am walk and catch the daybreak 🤷🏼♀️ may be worth a shot. My sleep had improved since November but in this wave I’m still walking with morning cortisol sadly. I’ve tried the adrenal shot before bed with Himalayan sea salt in water but that doesn’t seem to help! It was worth a try though hey!! my dirty window lasted most of yesterday and I was hopeful I’d wake up today without the intense agitation but sadly it’s here…previous windows it’s not there in the mornings, so clearly my wave is not yet over. we go down to Heathrow today and off on holiday first thing tomorrow. Hoping I’m not in a wave or not sure I’ll get through the flight to be honest my agitation has been so insanely high in this wave. Probably the worst for a long time. Hoping your day lifts and hoping mine turns in to a dirty window again, 🙏 can cope with these mornings if I know it may lift! hope you sort the keyboard i can’t cope with any stress in a wave. for me when I go in to a window it’s like a switch is flicked and this agitation and heavy feeling in my stomach just lifts and poof I’m 80% better. It’s so so weird one day I want it to go poof and never return!! sending love rosie x - Compazine injury following surgery used as an anti nausea drug Feb 2023, led to agitation and racing thoughts - tried to cope med free, advised to start Prozac May 2023 20mg - made me worse but was told to persevere, believe I had an adverse reaction. - decided to taper after 6 months of use at 20mg. Went down over 14/15 months to 1.5mg. - February 2025 came off 1.5mg due to feeling good and didn’t know this would lead to such strong WD
February 9Feb 9 Author 25 minutes ago, Its-me-Rosie said: for me when I go in to a window it’s like a switch is flicked and this agitation and heavy feeling in my stomach just lifts and poof I’m 80% better. It’s so so weird one day I want it to go poof and never return!! sending love rosie x That's the one @Its-me-Rosie yes described perfectly, like flicking a swich. We I am wishing you a massive window for your holiday, I hope it goes smooth and you have a fantastic time, you deserve it. So yes I know I am still in the horror wave, I am very down now this morning, so it's 🤞 how it pans out. Take care Rosie, and enjoy your holiday. B.🤞☀️👍🌷 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 9Feb 9 Author Hi all, well stayed on a 3 today, and up and down day again really don't, I had to take the spare key to the garage because the boot lock was faulty, so a reprogramming job with that. Electrical gremlins. So wasn't feeling good, but motorcycle got a blast out, and it was dry, no road salt so time will find what problems ale the car. Not going to be cheap though. So I will see what sleep I get tonight, but still in a wave so it will be another reset and horrible wake up. But still PLODDING. Take care all, B🐫 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
February 10Feb 10 Author Morning all, back off my 4am walk showers again so brolly needed, 6c so not too cold. So awoke on a 1 after 4 hours broken sleep, not improved one jot yet. Horrible awakenings and life not worth nothing at the moment. So still on a 1 now so wave still very much active, 2026 is even worse than last year. Car could probably end up been scrapped, motorbike will be sold and I will end up on foot. So with still no end anywhere in sight for PWD things are looking grim. Take care all, B. 2001-2021 Prozac 20mg 2020-2021 Tramadol 300mg 2022 April 15th Started Mirtazapine 15mg 2022 Sept 15 dropped to 7.5mg 2023 May 16th failed CT reinstated. 2023 June 30th tapering off 2025 Jan 7th Stopped all drugs.
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