I think they can also offer support at the hospital besides medication right? With group activities, yoga, sport, puzzling, playing games etc.?

6 minutes ago, Sophia said:

Oh gosh I am sorry for that :(

I can imagine you feel very alone right now… that’s must be really distressing 😔

Has Jim responded to your question already?

yes he told me to do grounding and go to my doctor to ask to go back on fluoxetine so i can taper off normally bc i stopped cold turkey but i don;t know if he knew that i stopped 2 months ago so i contacted him again. He said to go to my doctor, have professional help and grounding but professional care is horrible here

Hi @caitlinnathanie I'm so, so sorry for what you're going through. My sister had a similar experience last year and ended up in the hospital. At the time my mom was really burnt out from caring for her and also told the hospital that she was done and couldn't care for my sister anymore. But when the hospital eventually released my sister and she had literally nowhere else to go, my parents still took her back. So I think they were just kind of venting their own trauma and frustration?

You know better than me of course, but if you call your parents' bluff and insist on leaving the hospital hopefully they wouldn't actually kick you out of the house? I'm sure they still love you very much and don't want to see you suffer any more than you already are.

If it helps, my sister has been coming down off the MASSIVE amount of benzos she was prescribed and is finally starting to feel better. There was a long period of time where she was saying that every day was intolerable and she couldn't bear it anymore, but now she's seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I think you will too ❤️

Sarah

19 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

really.. i have been doing everything and sending them video;s but they say yea there are a lot of coaches who ask a lot of money but the peple here and the psychiatrist studied forit and specialized in it blabla so yea. It really doesn;t help my mom said today that she is literally done and she said it at the crisis team here. Honestly, this was always the case. They even only talked about themselves here how bad they feel and they can not handle it anymore (imagine how i feel like) crazy. they throw me out really, my mom blocked me on whatsapp too so i cant send her anything.

I'm so sorry to hear that @caitlinnathanie that's terrible!

Did you mention that they are psychiatrists and not coaches, that could make a huge difference and they might consider that option.

And try to think about how you can try to relax, as long as you're in this situation it's pulling you all over the edge.

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13 minutes ago, Sophia said:

I don’t know if this an option and I don’t want to overload you with information, but there is a “side effect clinic” in the Netherlands. Its mainly focused on people who are still on psychiatric medications.. but maybe you can ask the staff there to call with that clinic for advice as the half life for fluoxetine is so long that you probably experience delayed withdrawal.

Are there, besides the dpdr other (physical) symptoms that you experience? Like akathesia, brain zaps, headaches, nerve pains, etc?

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Expertisecentrum bijwerkingen

Het expertisecentrum bijwerkingen levert gespecialiseerde complexe patiëntenzorg op het gebied van diagnostiek, monitoring en behandeling van bijwerkingen bij psychofarmaca gebruik. Het gebruik van ps

Yes i get brain zaps especially when i try to sleep and i get really bad tremors in the night and when i wake up. i ask them a lot but they see me as a lunatic. Evertything that i ask is being weird they are being so freaking weird here as if im doing this to myself bc of fear. They say i have to do stuff this week and have to attend daily activities next week. im so done with this i just want my life back tbh

31 minutes ago, SarahMc said:

Hi @caitlinnathanie I'm so, so sorry for what you're going through. My sister had a similar experience last year and ended up in the hospital. At the time my mom was really burnt out from caring for her and also told the hospital that she was done and couldn't care for my sister anymore. But when the hospital eventually released my sister and she had literally nowhere else to go, my parents still took her back. So I think they were just kind of venting their own trauma and frustration?

You know better than me of course, but if you call your parents' bluff and insist on leaving the hospital hopefully they wouldn't actually kick you out of the house? I'm sure they still love you very much and don't want to see you suffer any more than you already are.

If it helps, my sister has been coming down off the MASSIVE amount of benzos she was prescribed and is finally starting to feel better. There was a long period of time where she was saying that every day was intolerable and she couldn't bear it anymore, but now she's seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I think you will too ❤️

Sarah

Thank you so much! Well maybe its a bluff but i know they won't speak to me and won't help me even in acute crisis, they will never call someone ever again,not the hospital, not the doctor of the crisis team. It's getting so bad, every day is so much worse.

guys it still gets worse every single day and every single hour, how is this possible. Idk what to do anymore. I can't even look everything is too bright and i wanna crawl out of my skin i feel so trappend and floaty.

i genuinely don't understand life anymore, feels like i never existed and idk what this is. Feeling has gotten really bad, has anyone had this before and this severe? so complete detachment that u don;t even know how u exist anymore and feel like ur so out of it u don't understand it anymore. more then the feeling of dead ?

2 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

i genuinely don't understand life anymore, feels like i never existed and idk what this is. Feeling has gotten really bad, has anyone had this before and this severe? so complete detachment that u don;t even know how u exist anymore and feel like ur so out of it u don't understand it anymore. more then the feeling of dead ?

Yes, many people have suffered from this during withdrawal. Its a consequence of your nervous system being out of balance from the meds and then having them taken away or reduced. You will get your sense of self back. Right now, as @Chippy as said, try to work on calming and centering techniques. Besides helping you ground in reality, it will help you articulate your concerns and desires to your family and your doctors.

Do you experience this extreme dpdr because of immense fear? Or because you feel like your mind is very blank and you have reduced inner monologue / bad cognition?

I had a very blank mind 2,5 months off fluoxetine. I could not hear my inner monologue in my head anymore and did not have spontaneous thoughts. It was really scary. That has gotten better for me.

In the past (before meds) I had dpdr because of high stress / anxiety. I felt a lot of existential fears and overthought life, my body, and my experience. It was really scary but it did eventually go away once my stress levels were lower again. I know it’s hard.. but try to ignore the dpdr and try to keep doing things… like eating, showering, walks. Try to use your senses to become a little more present.

1 hour ago, Sophia said:

Do you experience this extreme dpdr because of immense fear? Or because you feel like your mind is very blank and you have reduced inner monologue / bad cognition?

I had a very blank mind 2,5 months off fluoxetine. I could not hear my inner monologue in my head anymore and did not have spontaneous thoughts. It was really scary. That has gotten better for me.

In the past (before meds) I had dpdr because of high stress / anxiety. I felt a lot of existential fears and overthought life, my body, and my experience. It was really scary but it did eventually go away once my stress levels were lower again. I know it’s hard.. but try to ignore the dpdr and try to keep doing things… like eating, showering, walks. Try to use your senses to become a little more present.

no immense fear i am so out of it literally feel like im not even existing at this point

1 hour ago, mstimc60 said:

Yes, many people have suffered from this during withdrawal. Its a consequence of your nervous system being out of balance from the meds and then having them taken away or reduced. You will get your sense of self back. Right now, as @Chippy as said, try to work on calming and centering techniques. Besides helping you ground in reality, it wili l help you articulate your concerns and desires to your family and your doctors.I

i told them i wont take the duloxetine!

9 hours ago, caitlinnathanie said:

i genuinely don't understand life anymore, feels like i never existed and idk what this is. Feeling has gotten really bad, has anyone had this before and this severe? so complete detachment that u don;t even know how u exist anymore and feel like ur so out of it u don't understand it anymore. more then the feeling of dead ?

Hey. I had this. At its worst i thought i was some kind of 7 foot tall alien coming out of my body and that my arms and legs were one remote control and that i couldnt look in mirrors. It eased and went away but took a month or so with no breaks

5 hours ago, caitlinnathanie said:

i told them i wont take the duloxetine!

Good. Proud of you.

they wanna send me home, but my parents won't let me go home so im on the street so i have to look for something today

42 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

they wanna send me home, but my parents won't let me go home so im on the street so i have to look for something today

Im glad you are getting out. That is the best. I’m sure your parents will let you know. They love you. Can you stay with a friend? Do you have means to rent somewhere?

37 minutes ago, Chippy said:

Im glad you are getting out. That is the best. I’m sure your parents will let you know. They love you. Can you stay with a friend? Do you have means to rent somewhere?

nohave nothing

13 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

nohave nothing

Your parents I’m sure will be understanding. As mentioned before. Perhaps try to keep yourself as calm as you can so as to show them you are ok to be home.

20 minutes ago, Chippy said:

Your parents I’m sure will be understanding. As mentioned before. Perhaps try to keep yourself as calm as you can so as to show them you are ok to be home.

but i feel like im dying 24/7 i genuinely can't do this anymore like this guys my symptoms are so bad im scared 24/7 and this is making it worse too i don;t wanna do this anymore

10 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

but i feel like im dying 24/7 i genuinely can't do this anymore like this guys my symptoms are so bad im scared 24/7 and this is making it worse too i don;t wanna do this anymore

You will be grateful to yourself in the future when you have recovered. And be proud of yourself. What you are going through is very difficult.

1 hour ago, Chippy said:

Your parents I’m sure will be understanding. As mentioned before. Perhaps try to keep yourself as calm as you can so as to show them you are ok to be home.

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1 hour ago, Chippy said:

You will be grateful to yourself in the future when you have recovered. And be proud of yourself. What you are going through is very difficult.

i don't think i will recover at all i have so many things rn and so much trauma and stress.

3 minutes ago, caitlinnathanie said:

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i don't think i will recover at all i have so many things rn and so much trauma and stress.

That’s the thing @caitlinnathanie your body doesn’t really care what you think. It will heal and recover without you. It’s not your choice! You just simply will recover.

8 minutes ago, Chippy said:

That’s the thing @caitlinnathanie your body doesn’t really care what you think. It will heal and recover without you. It’s not your choice! You just simply will recover.

but dpdr gets worse under stress and trauma so i don't know...

1 minute ago, caitlinnathanie said:

but dpdr gets worse under stress and trauma so i don't know...

During wd we learn lots of coping skills that can help with life after we have healed. For the minute just eat well. Drink plenty of fluids. Take a walk when you can Try to keep as calm as you can. All the things an injured nervous system needs to heal.