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MooseRoo: Citalopram Taper
MooseRoo: Citalopram Taper

mooseroo, May 11May 11
- citalopram
- celexa
- 10 replies
- 212 views
mooseroo

August 14Aug 14
Wildflower: Slow lexapro taper
Wildflower: Slow lexapro taper

Wildflower, August 12Aug 12
- escitalopram
- lexapro
- mirtazapine
- remeron
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  lexapro
  
  mirtazapine
  
  remeron
  
  zoloft
  
  sertraline
- 10 replies
- 115 views
Chippy

August 14Aug 14
NBJ71: What happened to me!?
NBJ71: What happened to me!?
NBJ71, January 23Jan 23
- diazepam
- mirtazapine
- remeron
- sertraline
- Tagged with:
  
  diazepam
  
  mirtazapine
  
  remeron
  
  sertraline
  
  zoloft
  
  zopiclone
- 71 replies
- 1.5k views
Its-me-Rosie

August 14Aug 14
Vince: Paroxetine
Vince: Paroxetine

Vince, February 19Feb 19
- escitalopram
- lexapro
- paroxetine
- paxil
- 19 replies
- 340 views
LostinCanada

August 13Aug 13
EscTap: Medicated as a child, trying to get off
EscTap: Medicated as a child, trying to get off

EscTap, August 12Aug 12
- 1 reply
- 55 views
Chippy

August 13Aug 13
Gxldviibes: Introduction/New Member
Gxldviibes: Introduction/New Member

Gxldviibes, August 9Aug 9
- 11 replies
- 192 views
Lighty

August 13Aug 13
FireflyFyte: Tapering from a "fun" cocktail
FireflyFyte: Tapering from a "fun" cocktail
FireflyFyte, January 6Jan 6
- 51 replies
- 1.2k views
RachelSusan

August 12Aug 12
VeraVa: Restarting Escitalopram causing adverse reaction
VeraVa: Restarting Escitalopram causing adverse reaction
VeraVa, December 28, 2025Dec 28
- 72 replies
- 2k views
Bernadette

August 12Aug 12
Jwolfe: Restarted Cymbalta and Buspirone and tapering off
Jwolfe: Restarted Cymbalta and Buspirone and tapering off

Jwolfe, August 11Aug 11
- buspirone
- cymbalta
- duloxetine
- buspar
- 3 replies
- 43 views
Chippy

August 12Aug 12
Liliebogart: Tapering Sertraline after 20+ Years and Losing Hope
Liliebogart: Tapering Sertraline after 20+ Years and Losing Hope
Liliebogart, July 30Jul 30
- paroxetine
- paxil
- sertraline
- xanax
- zoloft
- 26 replies
- 394 views
Chippy

August 12Aug 12
Nickie Evans: Chronic withdrawal from Seroxat
Nickie Evans: Chronic withdrawal from Seroxat
Nickie Evans, February 13Feb 13
- paroxetine
- paxil
- seroxat
- 164 replies
- 2.4k views
Chippy

August 12Aug 12
Talltreescoldseas: introduction and holy-hell(p) me please
Talltreescoldseas: introduction and holy-hell(p) me please
Talltreescoldseas, February 27Feb 27
- 5-htp
- clonazepam
- escitalopram
- klonopin
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  clonazepam
  
  escitalopram
  
  klonopin
  
  lexapro
  
  sertraline
  
  zoloft
- 115 replies
- 2.1k views
Luke

August 9Aug 9
SentaS: Tapering Journey Hit A Snag
SentaS: Tapering Journey Hit A Snag

SentaS, August 7Aug 7
- sertraline
- zoloft
- 3 replies
- 84 views
Chippy

August 9Aug 9
SarahK: Hi my name is Sarah- from Sydney
SarahK: Hi my name is Sarah- from Sydney

SarahK, August 6Aug 6
- sertraline
- zoloft
- 6 replies
- 144 views
SarahK

August 9Aug 9
Molloi: escitalopram taper
Molloi: escitalopram taper
molloi, January 24Jan 24
- escitalopram
- lexapro
- 34 replies
- 704 views
Chippy

August 8Aug 8
scj1236: long term (~15 years) citalopram user
scj1236: long term (~15 years) citalopram user
scj1236, May 3May 3
- celexa
- citalopram
- 54 replies
- 642 views
Chippy

August 8Aug 8
JAN: Help please
JAN: Help please

JAN, August 6Aug 6
- effexor
- venlafaxine
- 2 replies
- 68 views
Chippy

August 7Aug 7
RedRobin: Introduction
RedRobin: Introduction
RedRobin, May 8May 8
- celexa
- citalopram
- 51 replies
- 928 views
Chippy

August 6Aug 6
NOW: My Recovery on Sertraline (Zoloft)
NOW: My Recovery on Sertraline (Zoloft)
NOW, January 30Jan 30
- 38 replies
- 701 views
RachelSusan

August 5Aug 5
Crystalfeather: Need help with using a micropipette for liquid microtaper (Zoloft)
Crystalfeather: Need help with using a micropipette for liquid microtaper (Zoloft)
Crystalfeather, May 23May 23
- zoloft
- sertraline
- 40 replies
- 621 views
Chippy

August 5Aug 5
ExLexaBro: 13 Months Off of Lexapro. Can I Do Reinstatement?
ExLexaBro: 13 Months Off of Lexapro. Can I Do Reinstatement?
ExLexaBro, June 10Jun 10
- escitalopram
- lexapro
- 38 replies
- 692 views
Chippy

August 5Aug 5
Imjustjen: Tapering Zoloft after almost 10 years of SSRIs
Imjustjen: Tapering Zoloft after almost 10 years of SSRIs

Imjustjen, August 3Aug 3
- celexa
- citalopram
- bupropion
- wellbutrin
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  citalopram
  
  bupropion
  
  wellbutrin
  
  zoloft
  
  sertraline
- 2 replies
- 80 views
Chippy

August 4Aug 4
Pax322: 9 months since I cold turkeyed on my entire antidepressants stack
Pax322: 9 months since I cold turkeyed on my entire antidepressants stack

Pax322, July 21Jul 21
- clonazepam
- paroxetine
- paxil
- klonopin
- 8 replies
- 173 views
Luke

August 3Aug 3
Vercis: Lost my way
Vercis: Lost my way

Vercis, July 30Jul 30
- mirtazapine
- sertraline
- remeron
- zoloft
- 10 replies
- 257 views
SarahMc

August 2Aug 2
May: My Paxil journey
May: My Paxil journey
May, July 21Jul 21
- paroxetine
- paxil
- 49 replies
- 847 views
Chippy

August 2Aug 2

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Sleep in WD

I totally respect your choices here, and I know sometimes we sound like we are pill shaming, it isn't our intention, we are just trying to share the knowledge of the community in an attempt to keep people safe and give them the best long term outcome possible.

Like all drugs, tolerance is built up and the effectiveness or benefits will lessen over time.

Unfortunately your experience here with sleep is common in WD. We all do all the things that are supposed to help sleep as you mention above, the reality is these things do help but can't undo the injury that has happened to the sleep archiecture (knowone knows the actual mechanics of the injury, but it's clear to me it's very real), time is the healer here imo. Im still dealing with this to a lesser but signifcant degree 2.5+ years later. Main thing is to set the foundation for healing as we will have mentioned at the end of your intro post you recieved from us when you joined/started your personal topic.

I can't know that. I can say that taking additional substances that are psychoactive is seen as upsetting to a nervous system that is already sensitive. I would say that if you wanted to stop taking it, as you have been taking them consistently for a long time, I wouldn't stop CT. I would start to taper them with a set of scales and just reduce at your own pace over a period of time till your off. I would worry rebound insomnia might be a problem otherwise.

I know the timescales of healing are daunting, and I know it really messes with lifes plans. I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do with your family planning or how long this will take to resolve. What I would say is that we all in WD have to accept the reality of what has happened and adjust our plans and expectations accordingly, keeping our mind on the day in hand and not thinking too much about what comes next. Acceptance is peace, peace calms the nervous system and helps it heal imo.

Chippy

By Chippy · 10 hours ago10 hr
Sleep in WD

I’ve done my best to not take anything but after a year of not sleeping well, sadly it’s either that or be non-functional for my family. I’ve tried researching for better options and my doctor offered me amitriptyline and gabapentin, which I thankfully denied in hindsight. I kind of see it as the lesser of all evils at the moment, especially since I’m not even taking half a dose. Maybe it’s different for me because I’ve had to use it my pregnancies as part of the B6/Unisom protocol for morning sickness, so I’m less sensitized to it. I’m so discouraged as I’ve done all the recommended things: magnesium, earplugs, sleep hygiene, blackout curtains, not eating/drinking for hours before bed, no caffeine or high amounts of sugar. There is literally nothing else to try.

Do you think the Unisom will keep me from healing? I ask because my husband and I are unsure that we’re done having children. When I’m pregnant, I typically take multiple nausea meds that aren't recommended for people in withdrawal, yet I can’t wait years and years for complete healing. Trying to figure if this chapter is closed for good in my life has been heartbreaking. I understand that you, as well as many others don’t have every answer, but I’d love your opinion, Chippy.

By Sara · Yesterday at 01:11 PM1 day
Sleep in WD

We respect members choices to do what they think is right. For the benefit of others reading this though, Unisom is psychoactive and taking it isn't advisable.

By Chippy · Yesterday at 08:58 AM1 day
Sleep in WD

I’ve seen a few stories over on SA and some YouTube videos of people discussing insomnia. Granted I only like to read or watch success stories, but I’ve seen plenty where people actually got better and are sleeping again. Don’t feel guilty for doing what you need to do to survive. My primary complaint during WD has been sleep issues so I’ve been using a small amount of Unisom for almost 10 months now. I don’t see myself stopping it completely for a long time yet.

By Sara · Sunday at 09:46 PM1 day
Having problems in the middle/lower parts of your taper? I think I might know why (maybe)...

Hello @graininthegrooves What you say is interesting; I'd noted the 'bulge' as you call it (with citalopram), but didn't have the mental capacity to look into it any further. For similar reasons I may have misunderstood some of what you write, so forgive me if I have this wrong.
If your argument is that tracking SERT occupancy , rather than dose, might be a more accurate guide to a smooth taper, that seems reasonable. Dose is used as a proxy for SERT occupancy after all. Obviously, as @LostinCanada says, it is all much more complicated than this, and SERT occupancy is only part of the story, but if this method provides a warning that a particular reduction may have greater functional effect than the last similar reduction, and indicate a smaller cut that might be a good thing.
One of the problems is the unpredictability of symtoms, and how they correlate to dose reductions. Waves just seem to happen... Listening to you body often means shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!
Also, one issue I've just realised is the difference in bioavailability of tablets and solution (at least for citalopram- one contains the chlroide and the other the hydrobromide). I did know this when I started taking drops, and transitioned accordingly, but hadn't really thought about this in calculating reductions. The 25% in 'strength' means that the current SERT occupancy is quite a lot higher than I thought- and this of course would be relevant to the 'bulge'. (it also means my 'sentence' is longer than I thought!).
Let's just leave it with LIC- it's all complicated! Anyway, thanks for your posts- it's good to ponder these things.

By RedRobin · Sunday at 05:42 PM2 days
New Scientist Article

Thanks for posting this @Mamgu, I sometimes buy the New Scientist, so might pick up a copy this week. (not that this should be a 'new' scientific discovery though!).
How are you getting on? Looks like you've hit sticky patch with your taper. It's odd that we can go merrily (haha!) along reducing regularly, then hit a wall- probably because previous cuts hace caught up with us I suppose. Perhaps the change to autumn and cooler temperatures will bring some relief. It's certainly been a challenging summer for those of us who don't like too much heat!

By RedRobin · Sunday at 11:46 AM2 days
Having problems in the middle/lower parts of your taper? I think I might know why (maybe)...

This is the key. Everyone is responsible for there own taper, their own research. No one can expect anyone to do it for them. There are risks to any method and it is up to each individual to carry those risks.
If one was adamant about a specific method being superior and it wasn't, then there would be culpability. Suggestions can be made and you have done that. People can read your ideas and decide @graininthegrooves They can read the Maudsley Deprescribing Guide to see examples. Again the information is out there and it is the individuals choice.
Paroxetine doesn't have the bulge that you mention....and as I have shown in the Paroxetine topic I wrote, there are numerous variables involved. To just look at SERT would be an oversimplification.
These drugs do not work based on logic, reason or mathematics so we need to be adaptable no matter what approach we take.

By LostinCanada · Friday at 03:33 PM4 days

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